surchinmy
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Sep 30, 2003, 8:07 PM
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Re: [kesuke, RealityDreamer, Hunter, minglmy, cshellz] help! hot spots/losing hair
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Hi ... 
Before I start - please remember I have not seen Billy ... and that makes it hard - will just do best I can.
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Flea allergy : Although I am not sure I understand the vet's reasoning that Billy cannot have flea allergy because Billy looks too good ... uh? ...
If you catch an allergy early enough - Billy will still look good neh - Even in the worse type of allergies the symptoms are progressive, and you don't progress from good looking dog to a fur-less dog in one short jump ...
But nevertheless ... unless you have actually seen fleas on Billy - maybe we can rule out flea allergy ...
So far, I don't recall you mentioning any fleas on Billy ... Fleas are small but can be seen by the naked eye ... they are like little black dots that jump ... *urgh* ...
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You say: " ... he did a skin scrape from billy's ear (i find that weird...should be from billy's leg ain't it?) and found it's tick instead... and he insisted billy's prob is caused by fungal when i asked him to scrape from billy's legs ..."
Sorry ... but don't quite understand the above ... Do you mean the following?
(A) That FIRST ... the vet took and examined a scraping from Billy's ears (which has no red/hot spots) and said its "tick" ...
But what does that mean? Does vet mean tick infestation or tick allergy or both?
(B) Then SECOND ... when you asked the vet to take a scraping from Billy's legs (where the red/hot spots are) ... vet examined this second scraping and changed his mind - and said that Billy has fungal infection?
So, did vet say Billy have tick infestation/tick allergy AND fungal infection? ... Or did vet rule out flea/tick problems altogether and say that Billy only has fungal infection?
This is kinda confusing because - if the vet ruled out flea/tick issue - then why the tick collar?
Is he prescribing the tick collar just as a precaution?
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Tick collars: Personally, we are not keen on tick collars ... they contain a very high concentration of insecticide (almost always toxic in nature) that is released consistently and regularly over the dog ... Check the label and ingredients ... If using tick collar - make sure dog doesn't get a chance to chew the collar ...
We prefer to use FrontLine as tick prevention. It's slightly more expensive - but very effective against ticks & fleas, our dogs tolerate the ingredients well ... and we control the amount that goes on the dog ...
By combining FrontLine and the giving of raw/natural garlic in food ... with very regular inspection of the dog ... we find that we can control ticks with the minimim application of chemical products ...
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Fungal infection
Dogs can get fungal infections (from mild seborrhea to ringworm) ... Please ask vet what kind of fungal infection he suspects.
If it's ringworm - then you have to be more careful, because it can spread to people.
Check websites for infomation:
http://www.ivis.org/...chapter_frm.asp?LA=1
http://www.petalia.com.au/...gs&story_no=1628
Most vets these days ... prescribe oral medication together with a medicated shampoo to combat fungal infections.
What shampoo did vet prescribe?
We find Malaseb & Sebolux Medicated Shampoos to be effective. But you are already using Malaseb right?
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Question: " ... so what do you think? is it ok if i use the lemon solution on billy's hind quarters? should i try feeding billy raw too? ..."
While the lemon solution is a good general cleansing agent and seems effective against mange ... I am not sure if it's all that effective an remedy for fungal infection. Maybe Neem oil is better. Neem oil is a known as a general fungicide ...
Veterinarians’ Guide to Natural Remedies – Martin Zucker : Neem oil: Use a washcloth soaked in warm water to cleanse the affected areas. Then gently rub the Neem oil into the skin morning and evening. Caution: Do not use the Neem oil around the eyes. If using concentrated Neem oil - then dilute in olive oil. Do a test on a small spot and make sure the dog is okay with the Neem oil solution.
Improving nutrition is always a good idea ... but maybe don't go raw right now (especially if Billy is not used to raw foods) ... don't overstress Billy, when he is not so well ...
Add freshly cooked foods to Billy's diet instead of raw ... Fresh cooked meats, fresh blended fruits ... and a good skin supplement (linoelic acid and/or lecithin). Cod liver oil suggested by vet is good.
Maybe check with Riccaval for good natural/herbal skin supplement.
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(A) Go with FrontLine to prevent flea/tick infestation ... as a precaution. Check garden/house to remove fleas & ticks. If you don't do this then re-infectation is more than likely.
(B) Treat for fungal infection (tablets given by vet).
(C) Use correct antifungal shampoo (Malaseb or Sebolux Medicated) as support medication. You can use diluted Neem oil on the affected spots.
(D) Improve nutrition to increase immunity.
(E) Give proper skin supplements, to assist dog.
Finally ... fungal infections take time to clear up ... treatment and remedies require consistent application.
Cheers
(This post was edited by surchinmy on Sep 30, 2003, 8:19 PM)
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but his skin prob is getting worse..
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and maybe instead of the chicken going for the fleas, it's going for my dog...ahah....
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