maybe i'm too ignorant but how can u teach yr dogs to love showing? yr dogs maybe good in showing because of yr teaching but u really think they love it? do the trophies and title mean anything to them? these things are meant for us human.

if its yr dogs yr only concerned, i think u'll only hv to spend alot of time with them, play fetch or go jogging with them.. they will be equally if not more happy than going for show.

Chrisong,

There is something awfully wrong here as you seem to be at lost with yourself more than anything else but yet you still come out with both barrels blazing. The issue which you have lost, which you started is winning is not important. You come across as someone just darting around and not knowing where you are going and convince others to do like wise. I can safely say Kell and I are trying to point out out to members who may decide to show to have full committments in participating, aim, a goal, etc.

Your reply to Kell states that for you is handling your dog in show, etc, well you may not know it but that is your goal in a show but the beneficial issue is of another topic as if you do not win at all only means you have not learn anything from the show.... really cannot see the benefits but again you seem to see a lot more than anyone else.

"Winning is not everything", so why do you state at the end of each and every posting of yours :

"Angel Won Reserve Best Malaysian Bred In Show at the 240th MKA All Breed Show" don't you think it is a little hypocritical for someone who does not believe in winning?

Even a fellow member Amanda, mentioned PJ Half, well those who participate are winners simply due to the fact that their goals maybe to finish the run at a specific time or maybe not having to walk at all, etc.

To conclude after all this discussions, which you started you still do not know what it is about, that is why you always seem to be in the middle of some sort of controversy in which later you need to explain yourself and then some members realise you do not really know what you wish to say, hence I hardly ever reply to your posting but now you even have a member from England pointing out your shortcomings rather ambarassing for other Malaysian.

Hi,

From your posting you sound rather discourage however do you know why you and your GSD is not making the mark? Is it the dog, your preparation of your dog for the show or your presentation? If it is your dog, then you may not have the eye to catch the critical points in the standard and hence you need to learn more, if it is your preparation, then time is required and then the presentation, that is your showmanship, well you either have it or not. I know some owners actually engage others to show the dog so that is one option.

As for the nonsence of not winning is not important so I ask why participate at all? It is such a non-motivational attitute to have in life. As for socialising, most breeders do not appreciate anyone bringing a non showing dog to the show as it is a major distraction and also leaves room for trouble as some may wish to cause some chaos by bringing a bitch that is on heat. If you wish to socialse your dog go and visit at Odedience training sessions either at Puppy.com or M.K.A.

As for looking for a stud dog, if your bitch is not up to par why breed it? As a rule of thumb the bitch usually is the dog that contributes to her off-spring.

As for GSD, you should look at it objectively and have another go, beside the competition is pretty tough as the pool of dogs is fairly hugh unlike breeds with small numbers.

So to conclude, if not to win then do not show.