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russellc
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Oct 3, 2004, 6:11 PM

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name :russell

Tongue

location: USJ subang

Cool

looking: to join any schH club

Crazy

Breed: gsd

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hp: 0123939 019

RealityDreamer
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Oct 4, 2004, 7:07 AM

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Hello Rusell, Cool

Welcome to the forum.

Nice to know another fellow subang jaya resident. So...do you have your own GSD? If so,how's he? How's his training coming along?

Right now,I've got 3 dogs,none of which are working dogs but am still waiting for my working one. The non-working line dogs are Hazel(dobe),Tyson(Bullmastiff) and Silky(cocker spaniel terrier mix). I'm doing some tracking with Hazel...not too good,but all in good fun. Tyson at the moment is my protection dog. He doesn't have the drive but his defence building up. Albeit not much,but it is enough to get the job done. Right now,doing that as well as discrimination for him. Mucho Mucho Importante Tongue

I'm actually more interested in real-life protection,rather than the sport but everyone who works has to wind down sometime. Smile

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russellc
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Oct 5, 2004, 7:41 AM

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Hi,

I only have GSDs from kids till now. I had bought my first working GSD puppy from Kirschental 8 year ago, thinking of might be able to train her for Schutzhund....well..only found out we don't have any!

So, i wait...... 8year till now...........i still can not see any light of it! My bitch is still with me, i had her trained in OB, by myself, from the resourceful net and video. Can not train protection cause can't find a helper.

I just bought another puppy from a Czech working line, his name is Fero Z Jirkova dvora CS, 4 months old, training him in tracking, still, leaning from the net and advise from the breeder. Thinking of sending him back to Germany to train for schH, very expensive, the fee and expenses is equivalent as sending my son to England for his degree! I must be mad if i decided to do it, i think.

As to Schutzhund club, i'm still very much keeping my finger cross, but will take any active position if time is right, of course, together with many of guys like u, we can realise the idea.

I still have many 8 year to live, i believe.

RealityDreamer
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Oct 6, 2004, 4:37 AM

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Nice...

out of which breeding is fero from?

How is his tracking coming along? How's the prey drive? Is he showing any civility yet(i know...a lil young but he's from jirkova dvora..so... Wink

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Do tell me more abt yur pup..I'd love to hear more. Laugh

*P.S. u gotta love czech dogs Tongue

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russellc
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Oct 6, 2004, 7:59 AM

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Fero is from Xac z Pohranicni straze & Chasinta z Pohranicni straze, line-breed is Iro z Pohranicni straze 3-3, the father of Gent od Policie. May be a 3-3 is too close??

I'm using on him the so-called " three foot food", where you put his flavorous food within every single footsteps within three foot dimension, anyway it's mainly lots of play and game, to create a closer relationship.

My hand and foot are all scratches, will keep fight back, bite harder the second time, he is also very suspicious especially in new environmental. If he is not properly groom, will definitely a fear bitter. It's lots of different from kirschental bitch, where the bitch spirit is more lively, the bond more human, the prey drive of west GSD is well (shall i say genetically) more developed. Fero mind is more independent, well..don't really know how to tell, will need to observe more time (less then one month with me). He is learning basic OB, like sit, down, stand. retrieve no way yet! Pirate

RealityDreamer
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Oct 6, 2004, 9:10 AM

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very impressive lines...u've dogs like baron,treu and ingo as well as iro n gent(like u mentioned) Cool

"If he is not properly groom, will definitely a fear bitter" hmmm...why do u think so..? Crazy

U mean if he was sent for compulsion? I didn't really get that. Generally,czech dogs are harder and more civil,they should be able to handle alot more stress ( I think..I'm still quite new to all this).

Well,he's only 4 months old. There's lots more time for him to develop. I'm guessing he's dark/black sable in colour? large for his age as well..?

*love dark sable dogs..lol* Wink

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russellc
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Oct 6, 2004, 4:21 PM

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What i mean was if he is abused, can turn quite negative.

He keep trying to dominate my kids. On one hand i try to ask my kids to respect him so as he is not abused, on the other hand i need to correct him on the behavior so as to avoid him becoming uncontrolled in the future, (he stay on the floor level to wait for the kids movement, and mount their feet), and my kids are all below 10 yr old.

So have to balance between not destroying his confident and on the other hand, suppressing him to become a pack leader in the family. Anyone can help?

BTW, he is a black dog.

PSD
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Oct 6, 2004, 6:16 PM

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russellc,

Forgive me for breaking n entering here Blush

. I think it is important to understand and read the dog correct. The term fear biter and bites when abused are not synonymous. The former is related to weak nerves and the later is related to defence. These 2 drives are miles apart. My advice is to keep his attention on you and train him positively up to perfection without your kids around and once achieved then let your kids sit on one corner while u train him up to perfection again. Then let your kids sit nearer and the whole thing starts again. This is called distraction training. The drive to play and dominate your kids are natural in reasonable dogs. It will be lesser once it grows up you can use obedience to control him.

The lines look nice. Sounded like a Jiri's dog. Smile

PSD

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Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

russellc
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Oct 7, 2004, 4:12 AM

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HI, Your 'breaking in" is most welcome, cause i'm contemplating to breaking in your silent by paging anyway! Wink

We have only one cause to concern ie the schH sport and the dog.

I understand what u say, i was actually merely refer to fear bite resulting from weak nerve which in turn was caused by some form of inappropriate handling of the puppy.

Thank you for your advise on the kids, i'm not seriously starting the training yet, but the kids is surely messing up.. Mad

, the kids are complaining i spend less time with them but the dog Crazy

need to log off now, dinner ready, talk to u later.

BTW, it's Jiri pup

Polluxx
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Oct 7, 2004, 4:59 AM

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Hi rusellc,

Hope U dun mind tis 2nd "break-in".... Wink

Its great to see another fella on-board that in interested in SchH ...!!

BTW ..... I just tot, U might be able be able to contact some of the KL folks i.e. Azman or Reality Dreamer , for some get together informal training session....etc

Good luck...!!

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

RealityDreamer
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Oct 7, 2004, 8:04 AM

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aah....the master has spoken Wink

well,I'm probably going to have the same problem with my future pup. Not with kids but with parents tho. Tongue

So I'm still contemplating on what to do. Probably going to do what PSD suggested. Smile

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Oct 7, 2004, 7:02 PM

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HI, Your 'breaking in" is most welcome, cause i'm contemplating to breaking in your silent by paging anyway! Wink

We have only one cause to concern ie the schH sport and the dog.

hahahah....Yeah I was dead concerned about SchH many moons ago and running here n there like a headless chicken trying to get it started. Met a whole lot of people too but many mouths no hands n feet. Right now I'm on vacation and finding it nicer.

Heard MKA is starting. How soon and how possible I havent seen much. Hope they really does it this time. Smile

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Thank you for your advise on the kids, i'm not seriously starting the training yet, but the kids is surely messing up.. Mad

, the kids are complaining i spend less time with them but the dog Crazy

welcome to the club. Sly

My advice is put on a leash for now whenever the kids want to play with him.

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

PSD
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Oct 7, 2004, 7:04 PM

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Chloe,

Ahem....me no master. Me good student. Tongue

Poll, hahah u also around....lol.

Russell,

Get in touch with Azman, he has things pretty well organised there.

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Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

RealityDreamer
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Oct 8, 2004, 9:18 AM

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lol

how can u say that?

i have a list of ppl who beg to differ. Smile

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boon
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Oct 8, 2004, 4:53 PM

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Hahah

u forgot to mention Chasinta's father. Gomo z Jirkova dvora with the ZVV3 title. This is no joke........a serious dog, not every one that has fast enough hand to own and train him.

Chasinta is now in US with Sapphire Kennel. She will be bred again to Illo von der Abfuhr.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

PSD
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Oct 8, 2004, 6:16 PM

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lol

how can u say that?

i have a list of ppl who beg to differ. Smile

hahahaha.......like surchinmy said, I'm a stubborn old dog. Just dont know when to stop. I bet there is a bunch of people couldnt stand my straight forwardness too eh.... Tongue

Just for jokes.......learning has no limits. Compared to many greats......I'm a mere good student. Many masters can train all kinds of dogs given to them for a fee. I can just decide if I am qualified enough to train the dog after I had seen it, I need the dog to have some right stuff first.... so me no master Laugh

Anyway....out of topic a bit. I'm looking for out of controlled dog between 1-2 YO for adoption. Any clues who might have them? Dont need pedigrees. My assurance is that if he is right candidate, he will be well trained and will become my personal PP dog and he will be well taken care of for the rest of his life. Visits allowed after training course end. Smile

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

Polluxx
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Oct 8, 2004, 9:06 PM

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Yo PSD,

Me ...have always been around...as long as the topic is abt ScH...!!! Tongue

BTW....latest news... !! our only M'sia rep got 71pts for protection at the on-going WUSV , hopefully the next two routine we will finish better..!!

Cheers...!!

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

russellc
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Oct 9, 2004, 4:28 AM

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What is the actual status of malaysian schH right now?

is it still in waiting stage?

prepare stage?

start-up stage?

on-going?

russellc
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Oct 9, 2004, 4:34 AM

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Where are u in subang?

I'm USJ22, i work n play with the twice daily, one in the morning about 6am, bf i send my kids school, and after i come back from work, about bt 7-9pm.

RealityDreamer
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Oct 9, 2004, 6:59 AM

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"I bet there is a bunch of people couldnt stand my straight forwardness too eh" Tongue

lol...well, when learning,gotta keep an open mind Wink

hmm..u got a point..but heh...ppl still think you're a master none the less. Smile

I noe of one out of control dog,but no news of them wanting to get rid of the dog..... Crazy

i'm keeping an eye on that one. Also will spread the word for u.
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russellc
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Oct 9, 2004, 8:09 AM

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some though just cross my mind:

at this moment, it's useless even if i own Gomo z Jirkova dvora !

just like we dont expect coca-cola to be listed in Iran so that their stock exchange can become world class, cause they dont even have one in the first place!

basically, when i bought Fero, i dont even care about whether he is the pick of the litter , he is a male/female, i did not choose the color, or did i know enough about his pedigree, cause any mongrel can be called GSD in Malaysia, as long as he is black/tan. Sly

that is my negative tot. postively, i bought Fero for my personal enjoyment in training him.

RealityDreamer
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Oct 9, 2004, 8:54 AM

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I'm in USJ 5. Smile

Btw,what's your e-mail?

Mine's reality69dreamer@yahoo.com
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russellc
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Oct 9, 2004, 4:25 PM

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My e-mail is

russellc@streamxy.com

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Oct 11, 2004, 8:10 PM

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Poll,

Tracking he got 90.

PSD

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Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

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Oct 11, 2004, 8:11 PM

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russel,

Seriously everyone is waiting but nobody is sure what is going on.

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Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

(This post was edited by PSD on Oct 11, 2004, 8:12 PM)

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