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soujorner
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Apr 23, 2009, 7:30 AM

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Dear All Dobie owners,

Need your help - just got an abused 8-month old female dobie from a friend and its so shy and scared that it just of people including us and only lie and stick to its enclosure. Been lying there since I got her home this morning.

How do I get it to trust me and adjust to the new environment? We live in a duplex apartment and the dobie has an enclosure on the lower floor.

It looks like it has been starved as it ate a whole lot today when it was fed - 2 small bags of dog biscuit; 1 can of small dog food and 2 bowls of warm Milk!

Also sad to note that it ears were disfigured as the previous owners make a mess while cropping them. I was told it was attacked by the ex's other dobies (2 of them) as well constantly and that was the reason he gave it to me.

Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Janz
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Apr 23, 2009, 5:25 PM

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Hi there,

It wil definately take awhile b4 she adjust to the new environment and also put her trust on u... Since u said she had been abused, it will be harder and takes more time.... For sure she wil feel afraid as new ppl and new place tht seem totally new to her... Give her more time, luv, attention and try talk to her... To me, i believe they can understand us... mayb u can let her roam around the new environment... Good luck to u... Keep us update ya...

Take care...
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Regards from Smarty (In Luving Memory) & Maxter Frown

PSY
K9 Kaki

Apr 24, 2009, 4:24 AM

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Hi, not sure where you live but you need to give this dog confidence by maily getting it involve with what ever you are doing even watching TV and if possible get to meet other dogs in neutral grounds like a park. If you are in PJ try Central Park on a Sunday morning, just sit with it and watch other dogs walk by etc. She need to know she is safe with you. This may help.

soujorner
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Apr 24, 2009, 6:19 AM

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Dear Smarty & Maxter and PSY,

Thanks for the tips. Thats what i have been doing.

Unfortunately, today is only the 2nd day and it has sort of venture slightly out of its enclosure. However, when I put the collar on and try to lead it out for a walk, it would retreat back to the enclosure.

I guess it will take a few more days before I can get it adpated to the home and me (& my wifey).

Since I can't take it out, it pooped in the house. I can't scold or discipline her as she is still too scared and jittery. I hope she knows I am giving it allowances until she come to normancy. Hopefully soon or else my wifey would be pissed cleaning up the poop in the next few days.

Any advice how to speed up the process?

Ta,

Sou

Janz
Dog Kichi

Apr 24, 2009, 9:08 PM

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Hi there,

I guess there's no way to speed up the process as it involve trust... Juz like human, do we simply put our trust on a stranger in a couple of days? Im sure not rite... Hope u and ur wifey be patient wiz ur pup as she had been abused before... and if u and ur wifey tend to punish her now, the situation might turn worst... Juz like wat PSY said, involve her in ur activity as well so tht she won feel left out... sooner or later, im sure u will get to c the different...

I understand tht ur wifey will get annoyed n pissed off as the pup kept pooped n pee in the hse n she's been cleaning all the mess but if u wan ur pup to get over wat she had been thru then the onli way is to be patient...

Wish u all Good Luck

Regards from Smarty (In Luving Memory) & Maxter Frown

PSY
K9 Kaki

Apr 24, 2009, 10:15 PM

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Ok, put a choke collar on (please the correct way) then a leash about 6 to 8 feet long, kneel down in front of her and call her, motivate with food or toy, when she gets to you praise her and stay with her for a bit then move away and do it again, draw her away from her enclosure. After 10 to 15 minutes of this gently lead her back to her enclosure. E-mail me if you have other question, e-maol liteweimer @ yahoo. com

soujorner
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Apr 24, 2009, 10:22 PM

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Dear Psy,

I did that this morning. It was hungry and so food was the best bet to draw it out.

It worked and I manage to get it out of the enclosure. Once it was out, it did show a slight sign of curosity but it did not start exploring. I will continue with this method for the next few days and once she is comnfortable will hope she will follow my lead. Then I will let her explore the lower half of the lower floor of my duplex apartment before drawing her out the stairs and hopefully by next week, can take her out for walks.

I have been feeding her milk too (milk power with warm water) and she loves it!

I got her a fake bone (toy) and it took her 1 night to destroy it. I probably beleieve she thought it was food. She show no interest in the rope toy though.

*Sigh* More advise please.

thanks!

boobee2005
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Apr 25, 2009, 2:10 AM

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Dear Sojourner,

Please, whatever you do or the dog does, DO NOT punish/scold the dog.

Firstly, the dog DOES NOT understand you. We do not speak dog language and the dog will not understand that you do not want it to do certain things, eg. pee/poo in the house, bite shoes, toys, etc. They DO NOT know that shoes are off-limits whereas toys are. They cannot differentiate what can be chewed on and what is not allowed. Most people fail to realise this basic HUGE difference in our inter-species understanding/communication. Slowly teach the dog by only allowing it access to things that can be chewed on and the rest to be kept away and out of reach of the dog. As you are in a condo/indoors, there are plenty that can be reached and ultimately be destroyed by a dog. It is NOT THE DOG'S FAULT. By teaching the dog with patience and kindness and allowing it time to understanding you slowly, you will end up with a dog that trusts you completely and reward you with undying love & loyalty.

Secondly, it is not advisable to feed dogs/puppies cow's milk as it will cause runny poop/diarhoea in most dogs. Use only milk meant for dogs if you must feed it milk. You do not want the missus to scream even more when the poop is, shall I say not solid!

Thirdly, to gain its confidence, you have to pat her and speak to her softly and I find that if you pat her on her shoulder (like patting someone on the back for a job well done) often, she will be reassured very quickly.

Hope I am of help. Remember that she was abused and starved, her level of confidence will require time to rebuild. If you shout at her now (due to what you perceive is something she has done wrong), she will most likely become a fearful dog. Please give her a chance to blossom. Thank you for rescuing her from her previous owner.. Smile

soujorner
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Apr 27, 2009, 7:31 AM

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Dear All,

Finally managed to get her out and downstairs (car park) but has problem getting her back up. Gonna have to make do by letting her sleep in the carpark tonight.

I also managed ot bather her without a fuss from here!

She seems to be stuck to me now, and I even tried letting her off the leash. She first ran off and whenever I approach her, she would run away.

I decided to sit in a corner and she what she does. Fortunately, she decided to come to the spot where I had a big pail of water for her to drink (I fed her there as well right after she came down). I approached her with the leash and she just let me put it back on her wihtout a fuss.

That was great progress!

She is even barking at other dogs and strangers! Great stuff. First tie I heard her voice.

However, the wound on her head is starting to itch and she started scracthing all morning to the extend of bleeding, including a small cut on her right ear.

Need advise on how to stop her from itching! I tried sracthing for her but it was only temporary relief.

I applied some franch oil on the wound and hope it will help.

Anderson
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Apr 28, 2009, 9:01 AM

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What a great progress! he now slowly trusted on you.
whats his name?
about the wound, I think Iodine can cure it but it is real pain for him.

Janz
Dog Kichi

Apr 28, 2009, 6:16 PM

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Tht's rite... She begin getting to knw u and also slowly putting her trust on u... tht's a great progress... If the wounds get worst, pls give ur vet a visit...

Pls keep us all updates...

Lotsa huggies to her...
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Regards from Smarty (In Luving Memory) & Maxter Frown

soujorner
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Apr 28, 2009, 7:55 PM

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The wound has dried up and the itch is gone. the swell on the head and eye are gone too!!! Didn't know Franch oil is so effective.

We went for yesterday evening and she was great - running about and jumping on me.

However, the first step of actually getting her to walk out of the gate is still an issue. I have to lure it out. Once its out all is fine! For the first time, she allowed me to carry her as well. The first time I tried a few days ago, she snapped at me.

I guess we are building a bond. Cool! Will keep you guys updated.

Janz
Dog Kichi

Apr 28, 2009, 8:00 PM

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Im very happy to hear tht

... Im sure many of us here will feel the same as well... Btw, wat about the pee/poo problems? i guess this isnt a problem for u anymore as u gus are doing great together... Proud of u and thks for giving her a second chance to knw wat's love and also get to enjoy her life...

Any pics of her?
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Regards from Smarty (In Luving Memory) & Maxter Frown

Anderson
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Apr 28, 2009, 11:16 PM

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Everyday got good news, thats great! Frown

Vic Tea
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Apr 29, 2009, 12:54 AM

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Good progress!

I guess the next step is to socialise with other dogs and strangers.

Good Luck!

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soujorner
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Apr 30, 2009, 5:53 AM

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Dear All,

Some more good news! I manage to get it to go out to walk with me wiithout luring it with food. Yesterday, I tried getting it out with food and she didn't budge. I walked out on me own and played with the other two dogs belonging to my neighbour. I notice she was observing. After a while I cam back to my yard and she immediately stood up wagging its tail. I took the leech and she immediately follow me out!

As for poo, no problem. she seems to know not to poo in my yard (prolly something she learn in her ex-home) and managed ot poo in the field or in front of my neighbour's house. (some kind of territorial marking I notice).

Am trying to socialise her with the neighbours dog but they kept baring their teeth. Will try to se if I can manage to get them to play together soon.

Franch oil is indeed great, the swell is completely gone ad th eopen wound dried up. Will use it for a few more days until it completely heals.

Thanks for all your support!

Cheers.

PSY
K9 Kaki

Apr 30, 2009, 6:44 AM

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Do not socialise your dog with your neighbour's dog.... very bad move. you only socialise dogs on neutral ground as they would be calmer. With showing teeth and all you may be moving back instead of forward.

soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 7:04 AM

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More good news!

Manage to socialise dobie with 2 out of the 3 dogs. Dobie seems to be joining the pack despite a little aggression from the bitch (Guess she is jealous of dobi who happens to be a bitch as well).

Today, the 3 dogs chased a stray that came to our road (deadend road) and dobie joined them in the chase. I was afraid that dobie might get lost as I have only walked her to a certain confine of the area. However, she turned up 3 minutes later all excited.

I now let her off the leash when I walk her. She seems very close to me and would only stray about 10 - 15 feet from me. She will always look to see if I was nearby. If I turn and walk away, she would immediately come running to me.

She was adopted for 2 days but the guy returned her 2 days later saying that his dad doesn't like her ears (despite me description hr as an abused dog). I let dobie go with him becuse during his 2 visits, dobie was happy to be with him. Unfortunatley it didn;t work out.

Am still trying to find a new home for dobie! Also trying to teach her other commands like sit & fecth ;)

PSY
K9 Kaki

May 16, 2009, 7:12 AM

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Hi, thanks for your posting and I am a little lost for words, please do not walk your dog off leash as from your description it is not off leash walking but just let free, remember this is a dob.... for that matter what ever breed do not walk them like that. An "off leash walk" is a dog that do not leave your left leg.... not more than a foot away from your left knee with it's shoulder. Please take note.

soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 4:10 PM

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Hi Psy,

I only let it off leash at the park she is familiar with. Other than that, she is walked on leash.

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soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 4:13 PM

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soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 4:15 PM

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soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 4:19 PM

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soujorner
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May 16, 2009, 4:25 PM

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Shela
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May 18, 2009, 7:44 PM

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What? Offleash?

Whether its a park she is familiar or not familiar...its a Doberman for God sake...not any kind of dog off the street. They should not be off leash...worst without your supervision. Unimpressed

Your post sounds like ur raising your dobe like a Mongrel. Do you know how much harm you create to your neighborhood? Besides, you are also harming her. One day she gonna walk in with street dogs inside her.

This reminds me of the issue banning Rottweilers in Shah Alam. It all started when the irresponsible owner always releases the Rott off leash to go out and play with the street dogs and return home once they are done doing their business. A kid ...to make it worst...a Malay kid provoked the Rott and he was badly injured by the dog.

If you can't raise a Doberman like a Doberman, please return it to homes that can find a better home for her. Don't spoil the whole Doberman names like the above Rottweiler's case

I don't want to hold banners begging govt not to take my boy away from me!
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