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FLK
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Nov 27, 2007, 8:09 PM

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I have 2 dogs in my house. Both of them are mix breed. I have my Boy Boy 5 years ago and it is an obedient dog. Two years ago, I adopted another male puppy, Bo Bo. It is a timid dog. Boy Boy and Bo Bo were OK at that time and they like to play with each other. Sometimes when Boy Boy felt too excited, stress or it sees Bo Bo being naughty, it will attack Bo Bo. Few weeks ago, the same thing happened but this time Bo Bo started to fight back and Boy Boy injured. Started from that day, Boy Boy and Bo Bo cannot meet together or else they will fight. I feel very sad and do not know what to do. I seek help from the dog trainer and vet but it does not help. I am actually a dog lover and I don't want to leave one of them. I really need help !


Cao de Fila
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Nov 28, 2007, 5:09 PM

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i'm sorry that your dogs fought and injured.

in most cases once the dogs had a fight, they could never be together peacufully again. please dont take the risk. however, u can still keep both of them.. just let only one dog out at a time.

btw, please also have them neutered if you have yet to do so. neutering will help to reduce their aggression to a certain extent.

good luck Smile


FLK
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Nov 28, 2007, 7:35 PM

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Thank you very much for your advice. Is that true that neutering can reduce their aggression ? I have asked a few vets before and most of them told me that it is only 50% that it will works so I have decided not to take the chance. Do you have any ideas that where I can find a good behavior therapist ?


acsyen
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:19 PM

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neutering is actually healthier and also will make them less agressive. If it turns worst they might start to fight with other males including strays.. Behaviour therapist ah.. I also not sure Malaysia got or not other than the famous Cesar Milan, know a trainer in Penang who might help. Bit of tips on what i do. I have at least 15 dogs who live together males n females. So firstly i neuter them. secondly must know what your dog is scared of e.g water or newspaper. If i see any 2 that fight i will take water spray them till they fall apart or pull them apart if no choice i will pull tail or collar. After break apart i will beat both with newspaper. See who dare to fight. I wun allow them to step on my head..

Another way is to get another person to help you. Get one fellow to lie down. Use choke chain is the best. Then u bring the other go near and make him lie in front of him if any of them is pulling jerk them and let them know they are not supposed to go at each other. Waaa.. Very hard to explain le.. In short any signs of agression i will either hit or jerk them so that they know.. Must not allow agression over food either..

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zephyros
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Nov 29, 2007, 1:55 AM

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what yen said is a way to do it. but if u wanna try, you can do this too

have both of them on leash (just in case). both sit close to each other. if they are good and quite, give a treat. as soon as sign of agreesion, a stern "NO" and newspaper slap on the floor. they quiet down, treats. kinda like mental conditioning. aggression = newspaper, friendlines = food.



just my 2cents


FLK
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Nov 29, 2007, 11:58 PM

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Hi friends ! Thanks a lot for the advise. My dog Boy Boy likes to challenge and Bo Bo likes to disturb. I have tried to use the water and fire to break their fight but failed. I have tried bringing them close with the muzzle but still did not work. The sight of each other will start heated barks growls. If there is a choice, I prefer not to neuter them. If they can talk, they will most probably say no to neutering. I feel very dissapointed now because I can only let one of them out from the cage. I am experiencing insomnia now thinking of how to solve the problems. I would appreciated if someone can recommend a good behavior therapist for me. Thank you so much for all of you


zephyros
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Nov 30, 2007, 12:09 AM

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neutering is not really that bad of a thing. actually it's good for your dogs. it'll even prevent cancer too. do consider it as a good alternative, instead of a sad one. unless they are for sure used for breeding, they really have not much use for it. why risk the chance of cancer and costly medical fees or worst case, your dog's life when u don't have to? consider that.


acsyen
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Nov 30, 2007, 4:45 PM

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Neutering is definitely not a bad thing as Zephyros say. I neuter all dogs that comes in to my hands no matter male or female. I dun think there is any behaviour specialist around. You just need someone with a firm hand possibly an outsider(get zephyros ) Usually owners are not the best people unless they are the well known discipline teaher among the dogs. Dogs knows their owners well so they are usually not afraid of their owners.

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FLK
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Dec 3, 2007, 5:18 PM

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Thank you very much for both of your help ! As both of you said neutering is not really that bad. Crazy I think I will do it. Thank you so much my friends.


zephyros
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Dec 3, 2007, 11:45 PM

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if i'm going ur coming with me yen! Laugh


acsyen
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Dec 4, 2007, 4:47 AM

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I din hear..

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NN
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Dec 6, 2007, 7:17 AM

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FLK, do you think you could me your e-mail?I have an idea that I could recommend.It's urgent but I couldn't send you a private message as it said something like no action available.If you are afraid of revealing your e-mail maybe you can send one of those useless ones you don't use.

Sorry but I prefer e-mail cause i don't want to get into argument with people by posting on public.


FLK
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Dec 7, 2007, 7:55 PM

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Sorry for the late reply NN ! I am very excited about the way and here is my email address : angela3881@hotmail.com. Hope to hear from you as soon as possible.


smokey774
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Dec 17, 2007, 12:50 AM

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aww im sorry aabout the situation your in. if it was me id be devastated. here is more advice on what you could possibly try:

when i got my new pup i paid a lot of attention to my older one and ozzie began to get that smokey was the leader although much smaller, ozzie respects him. and smokey has been attacked in the past by an akita..imagine that with a small little peke! he was very wery of other dogs but now hes outgrown a lot. anyways



you can try to take them eighter to a park or outside adn tie them up. put them so they are sort of by each other but pretty far away so its not so intimidating. feed them their meals like that. and try playing with their toys like throwing it to one and letting the other smell the saliva then throwing it to that dos and letting the other smell it then play again.



you can try using training sessions with them nearby so they are more focused. or even try tying one up and holding the other on a lead and being far away and using treats while he is calm (the one on your leash) the other may go crazy but thats ok..if bo bo barks you pull him back a few feet. whe he is calm give a treat and praise him. when he is calm enough quickly take bo bo and walk past boy boy on the lead but far away and walk back and fourth til they arent phased anymore. then try it the other way around. ive never tried this but have seen it done

you can also cook up a nice smelly steak or chicken or heat soft yummy dog food in microwave and aloow them to be near each other and they will smell the food and really want it and talk to them and make them do tricks and praise them..and feed them a piece one at a time. or cook it and tie them facing each other inside and let the plate be between them (with distance between both s dogs!!) and perhaps the smell will help

if that works try setting them down togeether and pet one and give the other a treat and then pet bo bo and give boy boy a treat. this may confuse them to think the other is good cus the other brings treats somehow. or they will get treat when near each other

i would advise not to try and have them play with toys together they might fight over it but anyway i hope any of this can help. i know how you feel and i had the same problem and now its almost like it never happened.


FLK
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Dec 27, 2007, 8:17 PM

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Thank you very much ! Smokey774 ! I will try it. Now I have phobia whenever I see dog fighting.

 
 




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