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tuckfook
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Jul 28, 2006, 8:47 PM

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Hi everyone.

I'm looking for Beagle bitches, can swap with my Beagle puppies or outright purchase. Show me what you've got and I'll consider.

This is a good chance if your Dog or Bitch(preferred) is getting too much of a handful !

I'm trying to build up a pack of about 30 Beagles. ASAP

Tuckfook.

wan
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Jul 29, 2006, 2:33 AM

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Hi TF, just curious - why you wanna build a pack of 30 beagles?

Is it for purpose of breeding or just a hobby? or what ah ? Angelic

* ~ My Life Has Changed 23rd June 2008) ~ *

tuckfook
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Jul 29, 2006, 3:35 AM

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I'm dreaming of a pack of Beagles chasing wild boar through the jungles !

I rode with a hunt when I was in UK, a long long time ago. I was thrown off (the horse) at the first hedge and consequently finished the hunt following in a land rover. Very embarassing. Ever since then I've always dreamt of the sound of a pack of hounds, the howling and squealing, when they are on the chase.

wan
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Jul 29, 2006, 5:01 PM

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Wow.. its unimaginable for me. How are you gonna take care of all of them ah?

And the space... ? But I'm sure u have the space.

Oh btw, still curious how to handle pack of 30 beagles what if they go off the leash ? Im sure they're not on leash while hunting right? So will they go sesat I wonder since beagle is famous for that.

* ~ My Life Has Changed 23rd June 2008) ~ *

tuckfook
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Jul 30, 2006, 1:29 AM

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Beagles are natural hunters. When they smell the babi they will chase automatically. Fear is that they chase kampong goats and chickens, which they can be trained not to but a pack can change these to satay before we even get a chance to stop them. Our dogs now have cost us a few goats in the past but after being scolded, they seem to have stopped. A goat can cost us about Rm300 even though it is not reallyworth that much!

Basic training is to call the dogs home. Once they learn to come when called, the rest will be easy. We start by using a specific call at meal times. Beagles are well known for being greedy so they will return for food. Then we use the same call when taking them out on excursions. When we know they can come when called, we then take them to small jungle patches with experienced dogs and the new dogs learn to hunt very quickly.

We have a large piece of land in a kampong where we keep the hunting dogs. Some of the wild boar is used to feed the dogs.

GSlover
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Jul 30, 2006, 7:47 AM

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Wow...sound interesting! Tell us more on how do you train dogs for hunting.

Just wondering wouldn't the dogs attack and eat the pray before you reach there? Or is it that they just cornered the pray and wait for you to arrive to shoot it? Or is it the Alpha dog will retrieve the pray back for you? Do you use whistle to call them back?

tuckfook
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Jul 31, 2006, 7:19 AM

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Hi,

In UK they use the bugle and horn to call the dogs, in Malaysia, they just use the voice to imitate a bark, like "Oh, Oh, Oh"

The dogs will just chase the prey and howl all the way. The howl indicates the direction and position of the boar being chased. The Boar will leave the jungle patch in it's bid to escape and hopefully a hunter will be there to shoot the boar. Boars are creatures of habit, as with most animals, so they usually enter and exit it's hiding place using specific runs or tracks through the bush. So a hunter has to wait at one of these tracks and judging from the direction and position of the howling, he can move to the most probable track to get the boar.

Training dogs to chase boars is the easy part. They just simply love to chase them. Calling them back is usually difficult but after a while the dogs learn that if they chase a boar and there is no gunshot when the boar leaves the jungle, they give up and come back, giving the hunters a look of disgust.

The best way to find out is to come hunting with me.

kid
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Sep 11, 2006, 9:30 PM

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bro tuckfook, are u from penang? Hmm... sent email to u b4 but no reply. Anyway, just wish to meet up with u as i'm from penang 2... good luck in ur Beagle' bitch search

tuckfook
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Sep 12, 2006, 5:15 AM

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Hey " Kid ", sorry for not replying to your email. Sometimes, I accidentally delete emails that are important because I get tons of spam daily.

Yes, I'm from Penang and yes, we can get together at some convenient time. Email me at tuckfook . less chances of emails being lost as spam here.

Sorry again.

Tuckfook.

mycathie
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Sep 13, 2006, 1:40 AM

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Hi Tuckfook,

I am a Beagle lover too! And I have 2 beagles of my own. One M and one F. May I ask why are you just looking for beagle bitch? if you want a lot of beagles ... you can have mixture of dogs and bitches, right? Anyway, I really hope you succeed in getting your flock of beagles. And if I do come to penang, I would really love to visit your group of beagles. I also enjoy watching a group of beagles going hunting. But is there any hunting ground in Penang where dogs can run freely???

Anyway, good luck!

tuckfook
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Sep 13, 2006, 7:51 AM

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hi, most of my hunting is around the jungles near Mahang and Sedim. It's approx. 30km from Kulim.

On penang Island, there are some possibilities for hunting with dogs but more restrictive.

The Beagle pack is just starting. We are starting to train the young puppies of about 4 months old.

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 2, 2006, 7:54 AM

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Hi Brother,

Long time didn't see you in AST & APBT thread, how is you beagle project doing? How many beagles are you having now?

At last you fix with beagle as lots of crosses done by you before seems not really meets your requirement. hehehe!

One more thing, my nephew ran down a wild boar few weeks ago on the north south highway between serdang and Jawi, reason was because some hunters was hunting besides the oil palm estate and the wild boar ran out in a suddent, the accident cause serious damaged to his new MyVi..., how come they can hunt along the bushes beside the highway? What happen if the bullet accidently shoot the vehicle passing there? Really don't understand how can they do that, it is dangerous... PLUS refused to pay for the car damaged, the hunters ran away right after the accident, the wild boar die (cannot claim from her), he has to claim his own insurance... Crazy

We the whole family took 2 weeks to eat the babi... (curry rendang babi hutan) ... now I see babi also feel "Gerri".... Unsure

tuckfook
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Dec 3, 2006, 4:28 AM

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Ha Ha Ha... you could have sold the babi hutan and perhaps pay for the damage.

Yes, there are lots of small patches of jungle along the highway especially where you said. The hunters should be responsible for the damage though. Worst case scenario is when it causes an accident and somebody gets really hurt or dies.

Authorities specify 500m away from public access but as usual many people will break the law. I never hunt in such areas.

Make a complaint to the Perhilitan and maybe they'll be able to trace the hunters as all hunters are required to report to the nearest police stn. before they start hunting in the area.

I have 7 beagles and 4 beagle + mongrel crosses now being trained. The pure bred beagles lack courage but perhaps they are a bit young now. Will have to see in a few months. They can smell the wild boar's presence very well but will not chase ...yet. Hope hthey will improve with time.

Tuckfook.

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 3, 2006, 8:26 AM

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Please come to the forum visit us regularly.... Wink

wish you have a great hunt this weekend.

tuckfook
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Dec 5, 2006, 12:47 AM

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It definitely was a great hunt. We bagged 9 wild boars, 4 medium sized and 4 Big and one small. One of the hunters is getting married next week and we're having wild boar curry, sour sweet curry trotters, and other wild wild wild boar dishes. Looking forward to the feast.

Didn't take the beagles last sunday because we were hunting near kampongs and beagles often deviate from their hunting and end up looking for food in the kitchens of the kampong houses.

vinoviruz
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Dec 6, 2006, 3:12 AM

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sedim river, the white water raftin area? the forest reserve there is open for hunts?

wicked

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tuckfook
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Dec 6, 2006, 10:23 PM

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Sedim river yes. Not the white water rafting area but near the kampong on the opposite side of the river. The area is called Bukit Rawa. Plenty of wild boars as there are several tigers roaming the hills so it's keeping the wild boars from going back up the hills.

vinoviruz
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Dec 7, 2006, 3:10 AM

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wicked

ive been to sedim once fo raftin, i remembered crossin a kampong i think some whr around there u hav to reroute la, anyway good hunting ya

ezekiel 25:17

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 12, 2006, 10:13 PM

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Hi Friend,

How was last weekend's hunt? I was I KL with my friends and get to know a hunter, they call him " San Cheong Sao" he is a very nice man and did told me lots of story happened in the jungle... off couse about his hunting experience.

How much will a wild boar cost? What are the wild animals that you can and cannot hunt? What happened if accidently hunt a tiger...

tuckfook
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Dec 12, 2006, 11:43 PM

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Hi,

Last Sunday's hunt was good. Bagged 7 and I was lucky to have shot 3 myself.

It has been difficult to sell boar meat in the recent months so consequently we have been limiting our bag. I believe that the general public is afraid to consume pork of any kind for fear of hormones and antibiotics used in the feed of domestic pigs.

We sell boneless(with skin - cleaned) boar meat at Rm6.50 per kg. Wholesale at about Rm 4.50 depending on the amount. So if a big pig. about 100kgs. is shot in the head, then the yeild is about 45kg of meat at Rm 6.50 retail or less wholesale.

It is not easy to get the boar in the head everytime so there is loss from meat spoiled by bullet wounds. This can sometimes be quite a lot.

I do not know many hunters from KL, and there are many hunters in Selangor/KL. Mind you, many are not regulars. Some hunt or get a hunting license just to keep a gun.

Technically, the only mammal allowed to be hunted all year is the wild boar. Sometimes the season opens for Kijang and Rusa but that has been closed in many states for many years.

I would not encourage the shooting of a Tiger, they are majestic and not many around. The malay kampung folk do kill a few every year because the chinese will always pay a good price for a full grown tiger. Usually no less than Rm20,000 as every part can be used for primitive beliefs. For this reason, malay kampung folk get eaten up by tigers in exchange !

I've never seen a tiger in the wild but seen many footprints. Gunung Inas, behind Sedim usually has tiger pug marks. Elephants are quite common too, especially their dung, about 3 times the size of a buffalo's or 6 time that of a cow! That's a lot of shit !

Nobody accidentally shoots a tiger...that's bullshit if it is reported ! Tigers will keep away from people so much so that people hunting tigers have to be very careful of the wind direction, sounds they make etc. Only a sick tiger will approach or attack a person, and that's self protection.

Tuckfook.

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 13, 2006, 7:39 AM

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Hi Peng Yu...

Wow! Thats cool... A good lession on hunting.

A tiger can sell for RM20K in the black market...? Huh! thats a large sum... How can these people do that... tiger is a protected animal globally. But what about wild cat (kucing batu), black leopard (as one of my indian friend told me that he personally saw somebody from the kampung showing photo to him and wanted to sell these wild animal alive) If these can protected species, can the rangers do something on it? I have been to Kuala Gula 2 to 3 years back and saw people is selling some birds (migrating birds) at the pasar malam... Wah Lau eh! they seems like got license doing that...

Anyway... which part of penang are you staying? I'm staying at Cheaseman Road... wish can meet up with you and some of the forum members from penang to share with us your hunting experience...

Have a great day brother...

tuckfook
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Dec 13, 2006, 9:16 PM

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Hi,

I'm not far from Cheeseman road, near the GH, opposite Island Hospital, behind YMCA. There is a Eurasian family that lives in Kennedy rd.(I think) that goes hunting too! Family name - Theseira.

There are many illegal things happening to wildlife in Malaysia. There is nothing much the rangers can do about all this as it is done by friends, relatives etc.... so they turn a blind eye.

Rangers know that tigers are being sold but there is little done to curb that except when they do catch a Chinese middle man who's not able to settle the matter with a suitable sum of Rm. Then it get to the newspapers and courts.

Tuckfook.

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 14, 2006, 2:50 AM

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Hi Brother,

I see... I do not know the family you mentioned.., my house is at Thorpe Road... just beside Kennedy Road.

What are the best ways to cook wild boar... as far as I concern, my family only know to cook in Curry Rendang stile..., they told me deep fried with black pepper and Or Tau Yu plus some sugar and bassil leaf added also nice... but I never tried before.

Seems like you go hunting every weekend..., have you ever hunt at Penang Island? I'm sure there are some hunting ground over at the island too. right? I've seen people selling wild boar meet at Air Itam market.

Can you hunt Civet Cat? If you can... there are plenty of civet cat roaming around our taman at night... I guess not less than 20 civet cat at the housing area where I stay. The comes out at night and ran into the ceiling and making noice til my dogs bark none stop... Crazy

hehehe! if you can... there will be a hunting ground for you as well, coz you don't need to travel so far.... hahahaha!

tuckfook
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Dec 14, 2006, 6:03 AM

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It is legal to hunt civets but only with a permit. Don't know how much though. I know there are very many civets around your area, mainly due to the river nearby and all the bamboo clumps and tall old trees. Seen them walking on the wires at night.

Wild boar in any curry is good. The deepfried Thai style is very popular but you'll need strong teeth and jaws. The right type of wild boar, due to age, sex , area, will determine the quality of meat. A good meat will have no bad smell and will not be too tough but probably a little fat.

There are wild boars in Penang and they are being hunted but there are not many. Mostly in difficult areas to hunt. So most of us prefer to go further and avoid accidents too.

Kevin Chuan
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Dec 14, 2006, 6:22 AM

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Hi friend,

Yes, they walk from wire to wire at night and sometime went into the ceiling... Unsure

... I guess someone had called you last 2 days regarding he wanted to buy beagles? He want to buy from me but my sis beagle gave birth to only 3 pups... 1 she keep the rest book by someone already... so I get him to call you.

I have your number will call you for a drink when free with some of the PPC members in penang... ok?

This is mine: Mxxs.si peh peh gor yit peh khong... got it?

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