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mydragoon
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Jul 28, 2005, 9:35 PM

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Today's news from The Star ( http://thestar.com.my/...8323&sec=central) says doggies and owners must take tests and courses beginning (most likely) next year.

I think if they make this mandatory, then doggies should then be allowed into more places. After all, with the courses, it would mean they are 'well behaved' doggies...

But the courses so long... Wonder how will be be? Weekly? Or like NS - send to camp?!?

Comments?


ERN
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Jul 29, 2005, 2:36 AM

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Also,

it shouldnt be any banned breeds anymore. As, APBT, AST, BT, dogo, AB, nepolitan and rottie, all can sit for the test and pass it with flying color.

I have an AST, my friends own AST, for ALL AST I have seen they just love human. More than GR do.

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PSY
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Jul 29, 2005, 6:16 AM

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Wow, so enthusiastic about this, however it got me thinking : M.K.A. is in the forefront, can conduct training and even certify a dog is canine good citizen, you get your license, what if the dog does bite someone after that, who is responsible, M.K.A. or the owner. The standard set I assume is identical or base on the A.K.C. format which I think to make sure your dog is not threaten by a pram, a wheelchair going by, umbrellas being open or being swung while being held, etc, etc . Do you really think some "wealthy friends" will give up their week-end of golf to go for the training..... this may lead to "hanky-panky" eg. someone will probably offer a package deal to stand-in for the owner or even sell a cert What if your dog fails the test, there will be alot of owners that would not fork out another lump sum of money to have the dog re-trained and tested again so, the dogs will left in the street or abandoned.....ammunition for the authority to use decent dog owners.

Please do not ask if I have any ideas because I do not in fact I am getting very concern about this ludicrious idea being adopted by all councils. The only one happy here is M.K.A.


mydragoon
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Jul 29, 2005, 5:16 PM

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Read somewhere that MPSJ will start this in Sept. Not sure how true, though the paper report says next year.

My concerns are like what you said:

- what if the courses are not scheduled at suitable time? does it mean owners need to take leave.

- if this one proves 'successful' chances are, it will spread to all MP**... At the moment, I'm under MPPJ. :)

- if they are to conduct courses and tests on that, i would expect doggies will be allowed at more places

- and what if someday i own a 'stupid' dog that does not bite, but dunno how to listen to instructions?!?


JoeSmith
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Jul 29, 2005, 8:44 PM

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Thank you for the info.

I am not so enthusiastic about it. I don’t think that this would change anything about banned breeds but quite opposite that it might be used to limit further. Some questions coming to mind:

- what happen during the initial time until your puppy is old enough to go to class and pass the test?

- what happen when your puppy is not allowed for class (e.g. any so called restricted breed dog)?

- what happen when your puppy fails the test? put him down? allowed to train again? who will decide that and what would be the time frame/cost?

- what happen to all the protection dogs? My dog will certainly react when you swing an umbrella in front of him or against me.Lots of unanswered questions but I try to stay positive and hope that this rule might improve the responsible dog ownership.


chrisong
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Jul 30, 2005, 6:43 AM

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Next Year All staff of MPxx and M.K.A got 2 month bonus!!! Hahahaha


nicky_spykeaz
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Jul 30, 2005, 8:37 AM

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I am going to errol my furkid to Ob class this coming month.. ..If i wasnt mistaken..there is a test exaclty know as Good Canine Citizen, if Bobby past that test, wonder he have to take again with MKA or not?? If yes, then waste my money training lor??

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minglmy
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Jul 31, 2005, 6:22 AM

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ur staying in mpsj meh ?

cheers,
minglmy


minglmy
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Jul 31, 2005, 6:26 AM

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PSY, I agreed to what you have written.

All things can happen .... and what u have put up eg : after successfully pass the test, so what ? dogs that is being bullied or provoke will in any sense bite or react accordingly (to their instinct) therefore who will be responsible ? the one who pass the dog ?

Dogs that is trained on CGC, if they are not consistently being "trained" outside on socialisation n etc after the proper training, what you will get is the same untrained dog. Socialisation does not means u go for a test or a training for 10 weeks and that's it ! its a long term thingy.

I doubt that the rest of the MPXX or DBXX will follow suit. There is also a lot of implications if they were to put in this rule country wide.

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PSY
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Jul 31, 2005, 7:28 AM

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Just a thought, MPSJ will only recognise M.K.A. cert on so I think PPC may not be applicable so you still have to pay that RM30.00 to sit for the test. I shall confirm that with you.


nicky_spykeaz
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Jul 31, 2005, 5:47 PM

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Mine area is under MPSJ...So i have to make sure all the rule about ownership must follow, if not i mati lor...

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nicky_spykeaz
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Jul 31, 2005, 5:48 PM

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thank you..really appreciate it..

Cheers ya,

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mugmug
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Aug 2, 2005, 6:05 AM

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I am in MPSJ, :C

Thinking to enrol the coming obedience training class for my puppy, just want to know is it recognise by MPSJ?

Saw the syllabus for Puppy class and Basic obedience training almost the same, which one should i go? can i skip the puppy class?

btw, my puppy is 4 months old now


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mydragoon
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Aug 2, 2005, 5:14 PM

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honestly, i dun think anyone here has much information.

i checked mpsj website a few days ago and there was no mention of this at all. a quick check again this morning gave the same result. nothing i found find (unless it's hidden deep inside somewhere). have to admit, i never bothered checking out mpsj site until this news came out. coz i'm not in mpsj area.


PSY
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Aug 2, 2005, 8:46 PM

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Hi,

You know something, I do not many of us actually have thought this through, I am training my dogs, no problem with this CGC test but I just realise it is a waste of time for many dog owners who are keeping dogs to protect their house and home. My dogs are friendly and most ppl can approach them but they are suppose to protect my home too and ppl inside so does that mean I have to teach them to attack too....so the test thing is incomplete. Scenario: Taking an evening walk and being rob...my dob goes to automatic sit and think to itself (hey when you idiots finish fooling around, call me ok!!!).

Fact ; there are a lot of robberies now in particular SS2 so what are we to do? A fellow resident who had a dob had his house robbed, police advise get another dob to keep the other company. Ideas here would be greatly appreciated.


darenong
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Aug 3, 2005, 8:25 PM

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who is running the show ? will there be a double standard thing goin on ? i have a puppy say 4 months .. will lick just about anyone ... in 1 yr time i dont think anyone will let him lick ! go figure hahaha how to confirm then he is GOOD Citizen ? doh!
to teach animal to behave like human is i think the most stupidiest attempt to qualify ownership of the animal .. hahaha doink! just an opinion
BLAME THE OWNER ! thats all dont blame the breed ! does this not make enough sense ? u drive a car u bang someone u dont blame the car for its a sport car and can go very fast u blame the driver ... in a not so similar case its the owner that OWN the dog so i guess it should be very appropriate if i say to blame the owner.


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minglmy
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Aug 9, 2005, 3:44 AM

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Hi mugmug,

Puppy class n basic obedience is the same type syllabus. Difference is handling of both during the training. Adult dogs tends to need more harsher tone to train in compare to puppy which is easier but needs more patience.

Thats why the 2 class being separated.

For a 4 mths old puppy you should join in the puppy class. more ever it will be more fun to play with other puppy around and you can relate to each another your experience on puppy hood.

Do come to tmn desa to see the training by the trainer also the trainee... its fun!

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robros
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Aug 10, 2005, 1:06 AM

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I fully support the need for obedience training for ALL dogs. I went for the obedience training and put my doggie through several levels. It's mainly to train the owners on how to handle their doggies. Actually, one can learn a lot more in those classes than just obedience training.

I must say, it helped me a lot in handling my rottie. Nevertheless, the obedience training did not deter my male from his protection mode. He is still extremely protective of the house and also myself. He does not allow any stranger to approach me unless I allow it.


minglmy
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Aug 10, 2005, 1:16 AM

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Hi,

Yes I too support the need for Obedience training. Most of the dog owner that we have seen are mostly controlled by their dog instead of them handling the dog. At times, its sad to see a doberman pulling the little boy everywhere - imagine if the dober is fierce or have temprement problem or a toddler runs towards the dog without knowing. That could be dangerous to both parties.

Obedience is handling, control, understanding, bonding with/of you own dog and of course many more. Dogs that have "instinct" of working will not be killed by going obedience training.

Its the dog that have the instinct n owner does not know how to control/handle that makes those problem like dog running out biting ppl n etc more severe as its during that time the handling dog part comes into play. eg sit stay the dog and recall of the dog n etc.

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minglmy


PSY
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Aug 11, 2005, 5:58 AM

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Hi,

I have a dob and now I have a problem, it does not go on guard mode anymore. She will bark when certain people suspicious walk pass but if that person approach her she would just stop and 'sus' the person out and very likely becomes friend so what on earth for having a doberman? This obedience "crap" may not be that good for some dog owners. People who runs the council love their home to be invaded by people and love to be rob so it is fine for them to impose GCC thingy. As mentioned by Robros, his rottie is good, great but really if I am to rob his house I would take that chance and make friends with his dog.

I do strongly feel everyone should think about this "obedience thing" before saying it is a good thing.


JoeSmith
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Aug 11, 2005, 7:28 PM

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What I know about the CGC training. For me, it is some sort of simplified obedience training, something any person could achieve with any type of dog.

I support the dog training request, because many dog owners have no control over the dog, e.g. they are taken for a walk by the dog, not visa versa. The dog is in control and it seems that they are wearing the collar and the dog holds the leash. I support it, because when the dog is not trained at all then the dog might become a nuisance and in some cases a liability. Both increases the army of people who hate dogs.

I would recommend that you check your dobi’s attitude and if found OK then enroll him into Schutzhund training.Simple test: Play tag-o-war and check if he does “the kill”, means shaking his head vigorously. Put him in the sit position and drag an object in front of him (across). Is he interested? Is he scared? Not bothered at all? If he is interested and does the kill then nothing wrong with your dog, just enroll him and within a short period of time he will be on full guard again.


PSY
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Aug 12, 2005, 4:24 AM

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Hi,

Thanks for the advise. The dob is fine but my issue here is when a stranger makes friend she will reponse and I do not want this. I notice alot of so call trained dogs do that. I am against one test and that is the one whereby you can leave your dog with a stranger for a moment of time, this really bugs me. The rest walking through a crowd and heeling is great.


chrisong
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Aug 12, 2005, 6:33 AM

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How come you want a dob that want to bite stranger? What if one day you forgot to close your gate he run out and bite a kid then how? Banned doberman?


PSY
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Aug 13, 2005, 2:28 AM

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Hi,

a very good point, my dogs do not run out when the gates are open, 100% will not run out even when a dog passes the house she would charge out of their kennels and stop where the gate (invisible boundary) is whether I am at home or not. If you ask me will my dog snap at anyone, I can not say 100% it will not but running out of the house compound no way. On the subject of biting, there are numerous break-in now in my neighbourhood so hence the bite.

Those are my reasons.


minglmy
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Aug 13, 2005, 2:51 AM

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Hi PSY,

Well, I found your reply funny. 1st n foremost, if you want a "Guard" dog, find a working line dog not a pet quality and expect your dog to do "guarding". Dobes does have guarding instinct BUT not all infact based on what I have read so far.... if a person is serious about guard dog my advise would be - get a 'working line dog" train your dog SchH and voila, u get a trained guard dog. Pls note that watch dog n guard dog have 2 different meaning.

I can expect a dog or any dog to be a watch dog but not any dog breed can be a guard dog.

Dobes are not known to be fierce (to me). Even though in their temprement its written guarding mode, due to the evolving generations not all dobes still have the same instinct anymore. Most dobes I met are very extremely friendly fella.

Getting a dog as a alarm system ? I might as well get a alarm system that can wake the whole neighbourhood. Dog can bark day in day out and sometimes the neighbour cudn't even be bother as they are so used to the dog's barking.

Obedience is a form of control of own dog. A dog that is not controllable of no use. This kind of dog will/can be dangerous to anyone outside or walking pass by.

Anyway, here are some of the interesting reading I found on dobes temprement n characteristic.

www.dogbreedinfo.com/doberman.htm

Temprement :

Bred for a century to be an outstanding guard dog, the Doberman Pinscher is intense and energetic with tremendous strength and stamina. Versatile, highly intelligent and very easy to train. Determined, fearless and assertive, but not vicious. Noble, loyal and affectionate with the family. It likes to be physically close to the family members. Devoted and watchful, this is a very people oriented breed. The Doberman needs an owner who is willing and able to discipline the dog without being afraid of him. All family members should learn to handle the dog properly, as Dobermans can be pushy if allowed to have their own way too much. The Doberman is naturally protective and does not need additional "protection" training to be a fine guard dog. In fact he should be thoroughly socialized when young to prevent over-protectiveness. Mental stimulation is important for a truly well-adjusted and happy Dobe. The Doberman must be consistently and thoroughly trained to be a good pet. Training should be through positive reinforcement. Dobes can be good family dogs if of good temperament, well trained and raised with children from early puppyhood. Best with experienced owners. Female Dobes are a little more stubborn to train than the male. Although the Doberman has the reputation of being a very aggressive dog, this is just not the case. For example, Dobes make great therapy dogs. They are sweet and gentle with nursing-home patients - tippy-toeing over IV tubing and walking at the resident's speed (which can be very slow), while at the same time will fiercely defend his master if it becomes necessary. These dogs are like big, protective babies. Doberman Pinschers have many talents including tracking, watchdogging, guarding, police work, military work, search & rescue, therapy work, competitive obedience and schutzhund. Aggression towards other dogs is accepted in the AKC standard. Though generally a dominant breed, Dobermans vary greatly in temperament. Some are even very submissive. Some individuals are family dogs, and some bond only to one person. The Doberman has been bred to work with man, and he needs this interaction often. They must be with family, and not abandoned to the backyard.

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DESCRIPTION

The Doberman is a power packed medium sized dog. The Dobe has a beautifully wedge shaped head, a well arched neck that flows into smooth fitting shoulders which blend into a firm strong topline. Connect this with a muscular rear assembly and a well turned stifle, with tight fitting skin covered with short close fitting coat and you have a clean crisp silhouette of a dog that possesses an air of nobility, an alertness to his surroundings, and the courage and mobility to respond to any situation.

The Doberman is a dog that comes with a built in high energy level and watching this short backed galloper run free (flat out with four off the floor) along the beach, in a field, or through the mountains has left many owners explaining what they see by describing the gracefulness, speed and beauty of a deer.

NOTE: Caution - be VERY careful with your Doberman during hunting season!!

Even though the Doberman was originally bred as a guardian and personal protector, the Doberman has an excellent nose for tracking and has been used for capturing felons. For many years the Doberman has been chosen to become an outstanding member of Search and Rescue Teams. A few owners have been surprised by the pointing and retrieving instincts of the Dobe and have made excellent hunting companions out of their pets. Dobes can also be found herding sheep (one such Dobe even has a Herding Dog Certificate) and bringing the cows in at milking time. The Dobermans loyalty, devotion, confidence and high degree of trainability (in the right hands) made the Doberman the dog of choice by the USMC during WWII; giving his life for his country. In contrast, this same breed has been and is still being used as a guide dog as well as an outstanding therapy dog.

The Doberman is one of the smartest dogs of dogdom. He is known for his intelligence and his uncanny reasoning ability. These qualities combined with the Dobe's deceptive power, exuberance for life, and his simple yet complex nature and temperament require extra time for early socialization, obedience training, and ample exercise. The Doberman is not recommended for dog owners of limited time, energy, and experience.

On the other hand, the Doberman is extremely affectionate and has been able to find his way into the hearts of his owners, like no other breed, and many people are life long devotes of this magnificent "Cadillac" of dogs.
CHARACTERISTICS

Ask a any Doberman owner and they will tell you a Doberman is a character with character. Look into those dark dancing eyes and you just know the Dobe is off to satisfy his curiosity. Investigating every tree and rock. Letting every blade of grass reveal it's "secrets" to a very fine tuned nose; alert for any movement (a squirrel, a lizard, a butterfly) that will provide a chase. Returning, perhaps with a grin, letting you know how fortunate you are to be "protected" by such a fine companion/guardian.

NOTE: Dobe pups have a propensity to put "everything" in their mouths. Be sure to clear the yard/floor before letting a puppy out/down to play.

Caution also needs to be taken if your Dobe will be encountering other dogs. With proper introductions (back to the early socialization and training) some Dobes will enjoy playing with other dogs. Other Dobes are not at all social.

NOTE: Male Dobermans are known to be territorial and normally WILL NOT accept other males in any situation...i.e. living with another male or meeting another male.

Look into the soft loving eyes of a Dobe, read what he is saying...You are being told you are the center of this dog's world. He will match your emotions, takes direction from your acceptance or non-acceptance of a situation. If he perceives there is "something wrong with this picture" or senses your fear he comes to attention - the eyes change - ready to meet the challenge.

NOTE: The instinct to protect is natural (i.e. early socialization will NOT undermine this trait), and further "guard dog" training is not necessary. A prospective Doberman owner being advised to forego early socialization, puppy kindergarten, and obedience training to produce a protective Dobe is being ILL ADVISED!

Living outside in a kennel or expected to stay in the backyard without constant attention and in a position as an important member of the family causes a host of problems with a Doberman. Often a Dobe that is relegated to this type of living arrangement goes hand in hand with poor training and these Dobes often show evidences of shyness, fear, and nervousness.

NOTE: As with any breed there will be dogs that exhibit these traits even when the breeding/training are correctly administered.

Dobes are people dogs -- showing an extraordinary devotion to their family or owner. A Dobe is very happy to settle down once inside (providing he has had time to exercise) to share your home, your bed (takes it over), and your food. It is also very normal for your Dobe to smile, lean on you, bump your hand for more attention, and follow you from room to room. For these reasons, Dobes are often referred to as "Velcro" dogs and one of the advantages of such a dog is; you never have to go to the bathroom alone again!

The Doberman is no different in their reactions to children than any other breed of dog. Interaction with children when the Doberman is a puppy often enables the dog to develop a strong loving bond with the child and family. There are also stories of rescued and older dogs adapting well to children. HOWEVER, as with any dog, ANY BREED, it is advisable NOT to leave dogs and small children unsupervised.

When faced with sickness, Dobermans can be quite stoic, concealing their pain long before you know something is wrong. A healthy Doberman comes to you, or moves around in the yard, with a special little trot, while a sick Dobe does more walking or plodding, perhaps holding its head and neck level or down. Some Dobes curl up and don't want to move. Their eyes are sometimes sad and almost soul searching.

Depending on the illness, some Dobes don't eat and may pace or move from one spot to another, restless and panting. Others may stretch a lot or try unsuccessfully to urinate. Dobes have been known to swallow items that can block the digestive track. If this is the case, your Dobe may not want to eat, or if he does eat, he will throw up, and pace and stretch again. Check with your vet if your Dobe shows any of these symptoms.

The hardest part of owning a Dobe is to be confronted with evidence of his mortality, that a loyal companion may no longer be there. It is then that you are faced with your only disappointment in owning a Dobe - the loss of your loved one. "It is then in these hours ... that he will best be able to face this difficult time, if he looks to the demeanor of his Dobe ... for it is their distinction that they squarely face adversity, not unlike that of a professional soldier." (anonymous)
TEMPERAMENT
In the Early Days, 100 years ago...

Early records tell us that the Doberman in Germany was a dog used by men as a guard dog. A dog that was alert, fearless, aggressive, intelligent, and trainable. The dogs were described as being "sharp" and became very popular as a police and watch dog. This type of temperament may have been accepted and desired in the rural settings of the past, but certainly not a temperament or dog that could survive in the urban society of today.
The Doberman of Today...

During the past 100 years the committed Doberman breeder has been able to produce a much milder/steadier disposition than the earlier dogs exhibited. Upon close examination, the breed is found in a variety of working positions as well as being an excellent dog for competition performances, the conformation ring, and a devoted family dog/clown/couch potato.
Questions about the Doberman Temperament

Quoted below are the two issues of temperament discussed in the AKC Standard for the Doberman. These areas are shyness and aggression. Either, if improperly displayed, will result in the Doberman being disqualified or excused from the ring.

"The judge shall dismiss from the ring any shy or vicious Doberman."

Shyness - A dog shall be judged fundamentally shy if, refusing to stand for examination, it shrinks away from the judge; if it fears an approach from the rear; if it shies at sudden and unusual noises to a marked degree.

Viciousness - A dog that attacks or attempts to attack either the judge or its handler, is definitely vicious. An aggressive or belligerent attitude towards other dogs shall not be deemed viciousness."

cheers,
minglmy

(This post was edited by minglmy on Aug 13, 2005, 2:56 AM)

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