feipor
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Apr 5, 2005, 8:15 PM
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ok cynhor very good reply. thanks for the explaination. the President has to spay/neuter the animals, that is a joke. that joke is not enuf a reason to fire Maha. i know labour law enuf to know what is INcompetent. Have u or anyone consulted a lawyer and they tell u this is not advisable to sack Maha bcos of the situation? ie, the backing of VP....if not u should do that. Get a copy of Labour law and read it over. i have read that i did a law degree. For the AGM, is it possible to get a lawyer as the witness of the legallity of the VOTE? if this failed again, how do u convince ppls to attend the next AGM? yes i was at the LAST AGM. I wouldnt comment on this issue if i had not been putting in my fair part of effort in getting paws in better shape. on top of being a volunteers (i must admit i didnt scrup the floor and clear the grass) but i have donated a substantial sum enuf for them to hire many more workers to do the scrubbing and cleaning. may i ask u, why has all the donation gone? and why do u have to scrup the floor and clear the grass when the first priority is to get PAWS on track and help the poor souls over there. THE POLICIES and the IMPLEMENTATION??? NONE. DID YOU KNOW THERE ARE RULES GOVERNING THESE MEETINGS TO MAKE IT LEGAL? (ok do u have any idea of the legality of the last AGM? and what r u talking abt? the last AGM was a joke and where is the legality? did u or any of ur group challenge that? NONE!) I hope u r not encouraging ppls join put in thier time and efforts and resources only to turn up for scrubbing and cleaning and thinking everything is fine they have done thier fair part in HELPING paws. that is not the real help, so pls dont set urself as and example to that. (that is what i called the wrong strategies) I GUESS YOU DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT LABOUR LAWS GOVERNING EMPLOYER/EMPLOYEE RELATIONS. GO ASK AND PERHAPS YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT EVEN LARGE MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES CANNOT FIRE PEOPLE THAT EASILY. THE VP WAS SUPPORTED BY 4 OF HER OWN PEOPLE IN THE COMMITTEE, AND MAHA IS HER GOLDEN BOY. WHY ELSE DID HIS FAMILY MEMBERS VOTE FOR THE VP AND HER CRONIES. (i can assure u that u know even litter abt labour law and how to run a company, perhaps in this setting. althougth i m not practising law but in my work i m surrounded by competent legal advisors advising strategies as to handling/sacking and hiring of employee....) BE CONSTRUCTIVE INSTEAD, PLENTY OF TALK FROM PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM... AND ALWAYS JUST TALK, RUMOURS, COMPLAINTS... I TEND TO TRUST PEOPLE WHO ARE AT PAWS CLEANING WOUNDS, SHOVELING UP THE SHIT, PAINTING WALLS, SCRUBBING FLOORS ETC. AND THOSE WHO PROVE THEIR WORTH BY STANDING UP TO THAT IDIOT VET AND THE VP. WHO DO YOU TRUST? (my post is meant to be constructive, criticisms are not meant to be destructive all the time, the perception that this posting is destructive is based on ur upbringing and exposure, sadly is not experience enuf to b able to seize the situation and open to suggestions and advise. again, sad that u trust ppls who go shoveling the shit, paint the walls , scrubbing floors and not TRUST or listen to Suggestion for ppls who can help to do more than collect shit,paint and scrub. this seems to be the group that u r with and How can u win against the cunning VP, maha and thier supporters who sit and watch u guys Scrubbing floors, painting walls and collect shit? HOW can u gain RESPECTS? as u said respect is EARNED. fyi i m not standing up to the presend team of Paws at all, they all failed. THE PRESIDENT WORKED SO HARD TO NEUTER AS MANY ANIMALS AS POSSIBLE, THEN IMPROVE THE CONDITION THAT THEY WERE HOUSED. AND THE VP AND MAHA TRIED TO SABOTAGE THINGS TIME AND AGAIN. ARE YOU WILLING TO LET THIS CONTINUE? OR PERHAPS YOU SHOULD GET YOURSELF IN THE COMMITTEE AND WORK TOWARDS CHANGE. IT IS GREAT TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND BE CRITICAL. (if u or the president can explain why is she has to work so hard to neuter, and not doing the managing of PAWS? is she trying to take over MAHA job becos its good pay? or is she trying to prove that she is better than MAHA? both also invalid reason for PRESIDENT to be a PRESIDENT, for this reason, WE should vote her DOWN on the ground of NOT KNOWING WHAT SHE IS DOING. when u talk abt MAHA trying to sabotage things, do u have evidence? again how much do u know abt LAWS? i m sure u have a fair amt of evidence before u make this statement. but why not act on the evidence instead of keep telling everyone that MAHA sabotage, MAHA incompetent, MAHA cheating. for years u ppls failed to collect any evidences? what makes u think u will be able to collect enuf evidence in future? another year? another AGM? (this is what i called the LOW guts level) as for the mass neuter of dogs, its done in the open air, and the practising vets who help out just use the dogs/cats as clinical experience, the failure rate is HIGH. and they just throw the animals on the floor after the failed operation. do u want witness? I HAVE. cynhor perhaps u need to have a clear strategies ur stmt(.where is the improved areas? less mercilless killing of dogs? THAT CAN ONLY STOP WHEN THERE IS FULL CONTROL. THE VP AND HER CRONIES HAVE PREVENTED CHANGE, SO EVERY STEP IS A STEP UP HILL. ) Please Define what is Full control and how u gonna do that. ie what makes u think the new menu by ur group will do a better job? u expect UMNO to have full control to run this country? nobody has, not in any country or companies or societies, the need to have a FULL control to make it functional is THE biggest jokes. the fact that u have a President there and she is incapable to control....... think abt it cynhor.
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