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English Bulldog vs Olde English Bulldogge







lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 7:44 PM

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We had heard so much debate about English Bulldog which is out of shape or standard .. maybe we are wrong ?

Maybe this so claim out of standard bulldog is the real thing .. ?

Let me introduce you to Olde English Bulldogge which is another breed belong to the same family as the English Bulldog, Mastiff.

Story tell that the Olde English Bulldogge originated in England between 1600 and 1700. These were the early ancestors to many of the Bull breeds that exist today including the English Bulldog and the American Bulldog. They were bred to participate in blood sports like bull baiting. This so called sport, became quite popular in England through out the middle of the 18th Century. Bull baiting primarily consisted of staking out a bull and allowing several Bulldogges to attack it. A dog of great courage and agility was needed for bull baiting. This dog was of medium size; larger dogs were considered to be the result of mastiff crosses.

Around 1835, laws were passed in England prohibiting bull baiting and the Olde English Bulldogges main purpose of existence vanished. Within a decade the numbers of bulldogs declined drastically almost to extinction. Dog show fanciers eventually decided to reconstruct the breed, but wanted to tone down the aggressive temperament of the original Olde English Bulldogge. They crossed the remnants of the existing stock with the pug and over the years that followed they developed the modern English Bulldog. Unfortunately though, this modern dog is wrought with all kinds of genetic health problems.


The modern Olde English Bulldogge is a reconstruction of the original Olde Bulldogge of the 17th and 18th century. Various genetic crosses have been used in carefully and thoughtfully planned breeding programs to obtain this goal. The foundation of most of today's Olde English Bulldogges can be traced to English Bulldog, American Bulldog, APBT and Mastiff.

These dogs were used very selectively in various combinations to obtain the desired physical and mental traits of the original Olde English Bulldogge. The result has been a good looking Bulldogge of great athletic ability that is much healthier and physically fit without most or all of the problems that plague today's modern English Bulldogs. The goal of all Olde English Bulldogge breeders should be to produce genetically healthier Bulldogges that are free breathers, free breeders, and free whelpers


Source :IOEBA website



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lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 7:45 PM

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Olde English Bulldogge

General Description : The perfect Olde English Bulldogge should be of medium height to large size with a large head and a very stout, muscular body. The disposition should be outgoing, loyal and courageous.
The temperament is to be very stable and trustworthy. Most importantly the Olde English Bulldogge is a healthy dog with out many of the problems affecting the modern English Bulldogs. Males should be free breeders and females should be free whelpers. The Olde English Bulldogge should be devoid of all breathing problems.



Head : Large and high, deeply sunken between the eyes (medial furrow).
The circumference of the head
should be equal to or greater than the dog's height at the shoulder.
Fault : Head too small.

Muzzle :
Broad, deep and short. The bite is undershot.
Fault : Muzzle too long (more than 3 inches), scissor or even bite.

Eyes :
Wide apart and of moderate size. Any color is acceptable.

Nose : Wide and broad. The nose should not be pushed up between the eyes. From the stop to the end of the nose must be at least an inch.
Fault : Completely pink nose (a small amount is acceptable).

Neck : Short and very muscular.

Chest : Ribs should be well sprung (rounded) and the chest wide and deep.
Fault :
Too narrow in the chest.


Back :
Short with a slight rise from the shoulders to the rump (level back is just as acceptable).

Legs :
Forelegs should be stout and wide apart, neither bowing out or turning in.
Fault :
Bowing or turned out resulting in poor movement.


Feet : Round and the pasterns should be strong.
Fault : Down in the pasterns or splayed feet.

Height : Males - 17 to 23 inches at the shoulder. Females - 15 to 21 inches at the shoulder.

Weight
:
Between 50 to 90 lbs. No penalty for dogs above the standard weight as long as the dog is well proportioned.

Color :
Any color is acceptable. The color of the coat is of no major importance. The coat should be short.

Ears : Short either drop or rose.

Tail :
Naturally reaches near the hock, pump handled, screwed short or may be docked.


lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 7:50 PM

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Here is a pics of the head of a male OEB .. Can u c the resemblance ? Same dog OEB


lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 7:53 PM

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Another Male OEB


















lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 7:56 PM

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A Female OEB Cool










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lycan
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Feb 15, 2005, 8:05 PM

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OEB Puppy

Can u c the resemblance to the English Bulldog puppy ?







More OEB puppy pics










raven2005
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Apr 14, 2005, 12:08 AM

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hi lycan .
do you own any bd??


lycan
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Apr 23, 2005, 11:44 PM

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yes i do . Anything ?




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hi lycan .
do you own any bd??


 
 




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