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PlaTo
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Dec 1, 2004, 8:49 PM

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Dobermann

This is a breed of relatively recent origin. It was developed in Germany in the 1860's, presumably by crossing among German Pinschers with Rottweilers, Beauceron, Pinschers, Greyhounds and English Greyhound to create the sleek and highly intelligent Doberman. Normally this breed had been referred as devil's dog. But it won't look as devilish without its ears cropped. take a look at da difference....





Personally; i had a bad experience while i was just starting to walk. Its bite marks are still on my eyebrow. My father had to give him up..So here's the question. Which do u prefer? Dober with its ears cropped or not??


RealityDreamer
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Dec 2, 2004, 12:55 AM

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Definitely cropped as well as docked. It's so sad that docking and cropping has been banned in Germany. For the rest of Europe,the ban will start beginning 1st Jan 2006. The dobes with tails n uncropped ears look like hounds..Unsure Though today it's done for cosmetic purposes(for show) but for those in the working line,specifically protection work,it's still useful as threats will hv a hard time to grab onto the ears(for some..the military crop) or tails(a lil stub..) Also, they hv less of a chance of breaking their tails(same reason why spaniels and other breeds hv docked tails) as they are very active dogs.

I'm pro cropping and docking as long as it is done humanely(with GA and everything's sterilised)
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glng675
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Dec 3, 2004, 1:39 AM

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Since yesterday, personally I'm not support to crop the ears coz why, I just cropped my boxer yesterday. When I going to claim it back from the vet at evening time (sent in morning time), I feel so sorry to her when I saw her ears. It should be PAINFULL!!!!

I can't have a nice sleep yesterday due to this matter.



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DogFancy
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Dec 3, 2004, 2:10 AM

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Croping your dog's ear is really painful, but when it croped it face will look

nicer. Just like great dane and boxer. So I think croped ear dog is more

nicer than a didn't croped ear dog. And I think a croped ear have a smart

looking.Smile


RealityDreamer
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Dec 3, 2004, 3:50 AM

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"I'm pro cropping and docking as long as it is done humanely(with GA and everything's sterilised)"

sorry..a little mistake. I mean LA..not "G"A
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glng675
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Dec 11, 2004, 2:00 AM

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"I'm pro cropping and docking as long as it is done humanely(with GA and everything's sterilised)"

sorry..a little mistake. I mean LA..not "G"A

hey, the avator is your doberman arr?? wah lau err...very nice face & ears lar...



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RealityDreamer
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Dec 12, 2004, 5:33 AM

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heya~

yeap,she's my lil angel Smile hehe..thanks. I'll let her noe. Wink
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glng675
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Dec 13, 2004, 5:35 PM

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Hi, After cropped ears, how to take care them arr?? doctor sew up the ears or not??

I cropped my Boxer ears on 01/Dec, now around 2 weeks liao, but the ears seem not so nice larUnsure mine wan, doctor didn't sew up the ears lar after cropped!



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RealityDreamer
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Dec 13, 2004, 11:31 PM

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Hi,

sew up the ears...? what do u mean by that..? Crazy

If I'm not mistaken,after croppping,the ears are bandaged up. Then u hv to return to the vet to re-dress it.Roughly abt 6 dressings.

What did ur vet say..?
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glng675
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Dec 14, 2004, 12:11 AM

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Hi,

I means before bandaged up, whether should sew with string at the wound/cut side after cut??

Btw, The doctor didn't ask me to return for re-dress....



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crazymouse_yyh
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Dec 14, 2004, 12:20 AM

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Huh? Your doctor didn't tell you ah?

I don't think will sew up loh... coz it's a cut... well, I don't really know but I will ask my vet for you.


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glng675
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Dec 14, 2004, 12:51 AM

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Huh? Your doctor didn't tell you ah?

I don't think will sew up loh... coz it's a cut... well, I don't really know but I will ask my vet for you.



Ohh...terima kasih...please help to ask your vet & inform me..Slythanks!

Actually I'm confuse, my breeder & one of the petshop owner said need sew, some dr said sew but some said no need....UnsureUnsureUnsure



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RealityDreamer
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Dec 14, 2004, 1:40 AM

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That I'm not so sure. Best to ask your vet. And yes,u definitely hv to re-dress the wound n use a stand as a base so that the ears can stand.

Do a search in the forum as well as the net.You'll get alot of info.

Here's a lil smth..

http://www.cinemaboxers.com/...rials/ears/index.htm

not very related but it'll help ur understanding a little bit.
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glng675
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Dec 15, 2004, 12:39 AM

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That I'm not so sure. Best to ask your vet. And yes,u definitely hv to re-dress the wound n use a stand as a base so that the ears can stand.

Do a search in the forum as well as the net.You'll get alot of info.

Here's a lil smth..

www.cinemaboxers.com/tutorials/ears/index.htm

not very related but it'll help ur understanding a little bit.



Thanks for your info. Could you please inform me how long you take to care the ears after cut?



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RealityDreamer
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Dec 15, 2004, 9:50 AM

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hi there,

glad i can help...after the cut meaning till the wound heals or till the ears stand? til the wound heals..takes abt a month. As for till the ears stand...that can take a very very very very long time...years sometimes.
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glng675
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hi there,

As for till the ears stand...that can take a very very very very long time...years sometimes.

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RealityDreamer
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Dec 16, 2004, 1:05 AM

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lol...yeaps.Laugh

If u refuse to gv up,it can go on for years. Most of the time ppl stop when the ears fully mature,meaning when the dog fully matures as well...but there are the hard core ones..esp those who spend so much on a dog(maybe for show dog) n the ears don't stand...it's hard to gv up when u've gone that far Pirate
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glng675
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Dec 16, 2004, 2:33 AM

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lucky I just crop 1 boxer. I have 3 boxers totally.

If I crop them at the same time, i think i will gila soon...where not time to jaga them???

You know? at the 1st week after cropped, i spend nearly 2 hrs to put back the stand when the stand jatuh due to lack of experience!!!Unsure More worst the stand jatuh few times in that weekPirate. 1 boxer oredi made me gila in the whole nite if stand jatuh. You can imaging how worst the situtaion if 3 boxers crop ears at the same timing and the stand always falling down.

Moreover, in the 1st week the blood easily come-up from wound if the stand jatuh, maybe nothing to support the ears & the ears shake here & there. I remember I called the Dr. at 11.00pm to seeking his help & advice because I worry the blood can't stop!!! Shocked

Since I have spend so many times on my Boxer, so i will never give-up & will ensure her ears stand-up well.Sly



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PSY
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Jan 11, 2005, 10:35 PM

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Hi, sorry I miss your problem however just for your information and you may still cropping of ears for your two remaining boxers to check out the AKC Doberman webb pages they do have very good information on care for cropped ears. I have a Doberman, cropped ears and with photo illustration and all it was rather simple.

Try that and see, nothing like cropped ears for Boxers, Dobermans and Great Danes


glng675
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Jan 13, 2005, 12:44 AM

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OIC, do u have the web address??



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PSY
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Jan 13, 2005, 4:27 AM

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Try http://dobermanpages.com/adtaping.htm or www.dpca-breedered.com/ears9-10.htm



Have fun but do remember if you decide to try another of your dog, please use normal plaster, normal gause bandage, masking tape, etc. Do not ever use non-stick to skin plaster and special bandage etc as it does more damage than good. Only use the cup to hold the ears up for the first fortnight after that use a bridge. I made a mess on dob but thanks to my girl friend she sorted it out for me.


glng675
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Jan 13, 2005, 7:06 PM

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Thanks a lot PSY!

It is valuable website. BTW, how many dog you have?



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PSY
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Jan 13, 2005, 11:57 PM

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Do hope it is of help and enjoy. As for my dogs, three : Dane Mix (Labrador), Weimaraner (for obedience only) & Doberman (Working dog for obedience and show)


glng675
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Jan 14, 2005, 12:03 AM

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Wauhh...G/Dane..I like this dog!! How is the look for dane mix lab??

Concern obedience...do you train them by yourself? now, I train my boxer for obedience lar & hope can for show also...



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Feb 6, 2005, 5:25 AM

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Yes I do train them myself, well sort of but after saying all that I do have proffessional dog trainer to help me. I am using the electronic collar system. I have earlier enquired about this method and eventually found this system and is available locally. Did try to leave my e-mail on my reply but was not posted. Do think there is a problem here to get in touch.

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