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libelly
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Oct 18, 2004, 5:32 AM

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Hi. I visit a pet shop today and i have some doubt here.

1. The owner of the pet shop told me that there a smaller size shih tzu and bigger size shih tzu. Is that true? the price of the smaller size shih tzu is higher than the bigger one. and they dun wan to reduce the prize because they said smaller size shih tzu is hard to breed and find in the market.

2. Besides, I hav some doubt on the hair color of shih tzu. The pet shop owner told me that the darker the brown color on the shih tsu's hair the better they looks when they grow up, coz when the shih tsu grow up, the color on their hair will fade away so is better to have a darker color. is that true?

I am searching for a shih tzu now but I don't have much knowledge on shih tzu, I need some advice from here coz I don't know how true is the words from the pet owner.
libelly


wais81
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Oct 18, 2004, 10:38 AM

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hello libelly,

i ave three shih tzu at home but i am not that expert, just giving my advice. yes smaller size shih tzu is harder to find in the market. so if it is a bit more expensive then it is quite fair. and the color of the shih tzu, the darker the better cuase it will fade a bit when it grows up. tri-colored shih tzu ten to change color a bit it might be black/dark brown when it is small but when it grows up it might change to grey and light brown. so darker color is better. also look for better markings on shih tzu. the eyes usually have even patches on both eyes with white patch on top of the head. will looke like batman lar..hehe...then the tail must have white tip. markings on the body have to be even on both side..slight variation is okie lar.., make sure the nose is as flat as possible also. flatter nicer...okie hopes my advice will help. good luck in searching for a puppy. where u see this small size shih tzu...i am looking for one too. cause i have a female in small size as well looking for a male companion....

regards

Christopher


libelly
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Oct 19, 2004, 1:31 AM

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hi christopher,

i saw them in one of the pet shop in OUG, very near to steven's corner. u can go there and have a look. but the price is too expensive for me. there is 2 small shih tzu there. but both of them also female
libelly


wais81
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Oct 19, 2004, 8:25 AM

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thanks, both female ar...aiyor...nemind i am looking for a male..are you looking for a shih tzu also...i/ve have got a fren selling them but not small size one lar normal size one lar..quite cheap i think. can help you contact her ...call me 0122990301

cheers

Christopher


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 19, 2004, 7:34 PM

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Hi there....

I have a shih tzu and yes, there is a size difference but it shouldn't be very samll coz that is a fault! A shih tzu should weight around 9 to 11 pounds and the height should not be less than 8 inches or more than 11 inches at the withers. If you see a adult shih tzu a size that is not of the above, then the shih tzu is a fault and if you pay a high price for it, sorry lah, you got cheated coz the shih tzu is not of standard.....

If you would want to know more about the shih tzu and how to find a good shih tzu pup, I suggest you get this issue of , the dog breed featured is the shih tzu and it will tell you all you need to know about the breed in general... also, if you want a pup, call up MKA and get a good breeder, most of the uppies that you see in petshops could be from puppy mills and from what I've seen, you would even want to go into a puppymill or puppyfarm, will make you heart cry out coz I've been there so I know.....

The eyes should be large and round but not popping out like a goldfish, the muzzle or moutgh area should be square, short, unwrinkled with good cushioning set no lower than the bottom eye rim and never downturned, The muzzle should never be longer than 1 inch!

The colour of a shih tzu can chage as they grow older, actually, al dog will change their colour a bit as they grow older. If you get a puppy with black tips around the ears, when it grows older, the black tips will fade away, this is coz the fur on a shih tzu is not fur at all, it is actually hair like yours and mine. My dog is black and white so you won't and cannot tell the difference about the fading of clour. Best puppy to have is one with a whiote blaze or star on the head and a white tipped tail. Tricolour is very common here but from my opinion, I find dark colours very attractive, the black and white is very nice to have, striking and never fades!


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

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libelly
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Oct 20, 2004, 5:55 AM

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hi,

i have some doubt here, i don't quite understand

"you would even want to go into a puppymill or puppyfarm, will make you heart cry out"...do u means that the puppies there being treat very badly or ?
libelly


carienna
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Oct 20, 2004, 8:49 PM

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wondering.. how much are they selling the small breed shihtzu?


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crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 21, 2004, 2:31 AM

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Oh sorry, I meant you wouldn't want to visit a puppymill or farm... the condition is.... poor small pups lock in cages too small for them, dirty looking pens and muddy puppies, the parents of the pups are worst!!!!! Sometimes, a male is put together with 4 females and expected to mate with each female till they are pregnant, the females never rest, they give birth everytime they are able to have puppies, the owners never care, thye never feed them properly too, normally it is all plain rice with meat scraps.....

I went to a small dog farm before, the condition was that the dogs were fed on rice and scrap meat, some were thin, some were sick, some had lost toes......... I made a mistake of goinmg there and have already forgotten where the farm was.....


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 21, 2004, 2:33 AM

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My own shih tzu is of small structure, not small breed. He is of standard size and weighs about 6kg++

To get a good quality shih tzu that is worth your money, call up MKA and get one from a good breeder..... if you see an adult shih tzu that is very small, it means it must have mix blood and not pure, best if you could view the parents of the pups!!!!


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


libelly
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:16 AM

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they are selling for 1.580K. for me, that is extremely expensive.
libelly


libelly
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:27 AM

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i will meet up with a breeder this weekend. see how's the puppies 1st. hope i manage to get one which is as cute as cnfs's Coco.
libelly


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:37 AM

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Ah, so you are meeting with the breeder Rose, not bad, I like how the pups are, BB and Coco, both are siblings from the same parents are from Rose and they are good looking quality shih tzus..... do look aropund coz today, there is an ad in the papers, some MKA shih tzus are selling for rm nine00..... just look around, of course, you must ask this if it's home breeder first!!!!!!!


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


libelly
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:42 AM

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yaya i saw coco and BB is quite cute and the color is quite nice also. so i have make appointment with rose to have a look at all the 10 furkids. hey crazymouse, how should i address u? kinda funny to call u crazymouse la. you have any pics of ur furkid? mind to share?
libelly


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:45 AM

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Hahahaha... good to know that you ave a liking for Coco and BB...... my shih tzu baby is not a baby anymore... he is in fact an old man hahhah.... 10 years old!!!!! And still going strong!!!!!!

Hehehehe.... ok, you can call me Hun. Yes, I have some pics.... photos.yahoo.com/yuinhun_yyh


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


libelly
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:53 AM

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hey hun, how many dogs u have right now? 4? u manage to take good care of 4 of them?
libelly


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 21, 2004, 6:01 AM

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Hehehe.. if ou read my other post in other threads... you'll learn that I have about 30 pets and they are not fishes.... you see under chit chat, got one that ask what pther animals that we rare.... see mine lah hahaha....

Yes, I have 4 dogs... my resposobility is shared with my whole family so not much work lah....Tongue


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


wais81
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Oct 21, 2004, 9:44 AM

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The small size shih tzu is also known as an imperial shihtzu, well although it might not be recognize by the or Akc, there are ppl selling them in the market and claiming a higher price. again it is up to personal preferences, some like it big some like it small. to my experience many shih tzu in Malaysia is oversize as well. i got one imperial shih tzu, didn't know at first until iit grew up ans found out that it is very small. and got one standard shih tzu, but very heavy, can u imagine 9kg for a small breed..hehe he eats a lot always in the kitchen waiting for food one...now on diet...about imperial shih tzu, they are not genetically born like this, irresponsible breeder purposely breed them to be like that. breeding them this way would often lead to poor health of the puppy because they will feed choose the smallest of the male and female shih tzu and then breed them to get the size they want. it is a myth to how they reduce their size, some say they feed them less and control their size thus not giving them enough nutrition to grow up. there are still ppl buying this kind of shih tzu as they think they look cuter if they are smaller in size. well it up to personal preference. health is the most important issue here. buyingthem as a pet is okay but if you plan to show them then buy the standard size one. after all the standard size one is not that big either. i've have got a friend that saw this article that they are trying to breed small size yorkshire terrier as well.. i was amaze when i saw the article too. the grown up yorkshire is as smaller than a toy poodle..could u imagine. well thats what i have to share...

cheers

Christopher


carienna
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Oct 21, 2004, 5:56 PM

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UH?! So so expensive!! :-/ I think you can get at a cheaper price compare to that .. In Penang, the prices for shihtzu is kinda reasonable.. and I've seen small sized shihtzu here as well. My fren got 1 at only rm1k with cert.. but when he brings the furkid to the vet, vet said the doggie is underweight if compare to how an actual shihtzu should weigh..Crazy


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cnfs
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Oct 26, 2004, 7:21 AM

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Libelly,

It is tough to find a small size shih tzu. In fact, Coco is the smallest in the litter, just like her mom. About 4kg only. This is under the standard. But I think she will still grow a bit more lor as she is only 6 months old. Otherwise even a persian cat is bigger than coco. Hehehe..... Nevertheless, note that Shih Tzu is considered a high maintenance dog. You will need to be willing to invest some time everyday in order to have beautiful coat lor. This is a long long term obligation and committment and you must be ready for it lor.... don't just fall for the cute puppy look.... you should also visit adult shih tzu to learn more from their owners... sorry for the lecture.... but i am just worried because many people end up giving their dogs away because they simply cannot cope anymore.... it's very painful for the dog to be disowned... almost like our own parents disowned us...that kind of feeling....... Unsure

Regards,
Mr.Chris


Nishi
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Oct 26, 2004, 9:05 PM

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wow, Mr Chris, yr shih Tzu so small size. Really mini leh. Mine now 4 kg liow and shi is only 4 mths old.


cnfs
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Oct 26, 2004, 11:12 PM

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hehe... your shih tzu is so cute. What's her name? Where do you stay? I am in Damansara perdana.

Regards,
Mr.Chris


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 27, 2004, 12:37 AM

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Females normally small size... 4kg is alright for a 6 month old pup, my Willy is only 6kg!!!! Vet said very good weight and I was surprised that when I brought him to RDO... he was smaller than other shih tzus....

Your advice is good, should tell all potential shih tzu owners.....


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE


Nishi
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Oct 27, 2004, 2:18 AM

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Thanks. Me staying in Spore. Just joined this forum. Thinking of letting my nishi to know some Malaysia's friend for her future when we move back.


a_evie
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Oct 27, 2004, 5:40 AM

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the bigger and smaller breed...heard of that too. have seen what they meant by the smaller breed...they called it the aussie shih tzu. much smaller that the imperial ones.


crazymouse_yyh
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Oct 27, 2004, 5:49 AM

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HUh? Got that small ah?????Crazy


Willy, my beloved shih tzu (22 March 1994- 8 August 2005) May you rest and live happily in Rainbow Bridge with the rest. You will forever be deeply missed by all.

Puppies and kittens, helpless and innocent are always roaming the streets as strays. Adopt from animal shelthers to save them.
THEY NEED YOUR HELP AND LOVE

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