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gina33
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Jan 28, 2004, 12:12 AM

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Hi, I have a Puppy (7 months), shii tzu mix poodle. She keep barking to others dogs when she meet them and seems like want to attack them. Why this will happen?? And what should i do?? Please advice.



aragorn2976
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Jan 28, 2004, 12:25 AM

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Hi there...

Welcome to the forum!!

Just a couple of questions so that we can understand the problem better...

Have you exposed your pup to other dogs before? Is your dog dominant at home?



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gina33
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Jan 28, 2004, 5:08 PM

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yeap,My pup dominant at home and never meet others dogs before until one day i bring her to meet with my neighbour's dogs. I thought the first time maybe is normal for her to bark to other dogs but the second time , third time also having the same problem, so i also don't know what wrong is it.


surchinmy
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Jan 28, 2004, 7:20 PM

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Hello ...

Dogs bark ... all dogs bark ... Tongue ... and barking is not necessarily a sign of dominance or aggression ...

Dogs use their barks (much like human speech) to express themselves ... as greetings, as signs of anticipation ... to show pleasure or displeasure ...

And not all barks are the same ... When we observe our dogs, we soon learn that dogs have a whole range of barks, growls and yeowls ... coming in different tones, lengths, tempo and timbre ... Each bark will have its own significance ... each signifying a different emotional, physical or mental state and used for a different reason ...

When our friends & their dogs visit - our dogs will bark in greeting and this happens everytime - its simply saying ... "Hello, welcome"... And then 20secs or so ... they all settle down to playing with each other ...

But its very difficult to interpret the bark or noise a dog makes without also observing the dog's body expression & posture ... dogs use their entire body & barks to communicate. As owners, it is good that we learn to listen and hear what our dogs are telling us ... knowing doggie language allows us to communicate better with our dog.

Suggest the following:

(a) Learn as much as you can about how your dog "speaks", learn about dog barks and body language.

(b) All dogs need to be socialised. Learn the correct way to socialise a dog. Learn how best to introduce your dog to new doggie friends for the first time. There are correct and good ways, and there are bad or difficult ways ... the good ways (like letting dogs meet for the first time on neutral ground) increases the chances of successful socialisation.

Please do not expect that all attempts at socialising our dogs to be successful (some may be quite eventful), much depends on the temperament of the dogs, the environment and the owners' experience ... If you understand dog language, it will prepare you and help you respond to a socialisation situation as it develops.

All the information you need can be found in a good dog manual or on the internet ... you can also try searching the forum for related threads.

Cheers Smile


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aragorn2976
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Jan 28, 2004, 7:25 PM

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Hmmmm...

Usually, a dominant dog is pretty aggressive at home too. .. Tongue Anyway, I think there are a few issues to tackle here,

1. You, the fur-slave should be the leader of the pack, not your dog. Your dog should look up to you as ALPHA, so some training to change this should be done.
2. The command "leave it" should be taught to your dog whenever she starts barking or trying to lunge at other dogs.

A question here, do you play "tug of war" games with your dog? If so, better stop as this will breed more aggressiveness in your dog. A good tip is also to teach the command "give" if you are playing fetch with her. Smile

Anyway, some socializing is good for your dog but do supervise it carefully since your dog is a little aggressive now.

Good luck. Hope this helps.



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gina33
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Jan 29, 2004, 7:02 PM

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Thanks for urs advice, i think start from now i need to bring my pup to have more socialise with other dogs and try to understand more of her language(bark), thanks alot.


xyne
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Jan 31, 2004, 12:07 AM

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hi...

i have tat problem too... my dogs bark like mad when another animal passes by our house. When my neighbour's dog goes for his walk, they race up n down the garden n bark like mad...
even tho they r relatively obedient on other issues.. barking is one i cant control... (when stranger come they quiet ony.. sigh)

My MS esp is very noisy..esp when i am home cos he wants my attention (2 other dogs big in size..overpowering his stature...) ...
vet suggested i tape his mouth when he barks as a sign to let him know he shldnt.. but how to use tape la.. later i ter'waxed his moustache how... hehee

anyway to help them relieve the excitement n bark less...


aragorn2976
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Jan 31, 2004, 1:40 AM

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CrazyCrazy...

JRTs are yappy and so, we got used to it after a while. In fact, we were relieved to find that Snoopy can bark. Tongue That's because our last dog, Oofy didn't quite bark as much. LaughLaughLaugh...

Hehe.. Yea.. What happens if he lose the moustache... Kekeke....



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xyne
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Jan 31, 2004, 1:43 AM

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yalor.. hehehe..
must be very ouch ouch for him .. kakakaa
never seen a MS without janggut wan kekekee

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aragorn2976
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Jan 31, 2004, 2:16 AM

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LaughLaughLaughLaugh....

Kekeke... Yea. Must be really weird... Tongue

Hmmm.. How come the vet said to tape his mouth instead of using a muzzle?

I agree with surchin, dogs tend to bark because they want to "tok tok"... TongueTongue But my neighbour's dogs are different. Their language is like "Oi!! What you doing, walking all over my territory!!!.. Get out now!!!"... LaughLaughLaughLaugh They will bark and bark at the passing object (humans, dogs, animals not necc car unless it is "paper-lama" guy) and sometimes, even fight with each other in the process... CrazyCrazyCrazy

Funny-le...



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xyne
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Feb 3, 2004, 5:56 PM

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fight with each other??? tats wierd.. they must be having a bark-loudest-championship.. heheheee

my dogs bark the most when the neighbour's dog gets a walk n they dont.. boy..they go frantic CrazyCrazy ... such spoilt brats...
sometimes i just let them go up the car n sit.. then they feel better... hahaaa..


aragorn2976
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Feb 4, 2004, 7:30 PM

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LaughLaugh...

Yea... It is weird but scary too. Seems that they have this dominance issue where one dog still wants to fight for dominance... CrazyCrazy...

Haha... Snoopy will go nuts when she see another dog, will bark and growl but then, she's such a small kuchirat the other dogs passing by don't bother with her... LaughLaugh



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xyne
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Feb 4, 2004, 7:59 PM

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heeheheeee..really??? kinda the same case with popeye... no one seems to be threatened by him..LaughSly

tyson is really dominant tho.. once we saw the phariah dogs went into the drain when passing by our house, so to avoid stepping into tyson's 'territory'.... so mean ah my dog...Unsure


aragorn2976
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Feb 4, 2004, 10:24 PM

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LaughLaughSlySlySly...

Hmmm... What to do... They are protective of their territory... LaughLaughLaugh Normal-la...



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sun-arrow
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Feb 4, 2004, 10:52 PM

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You mean not all growls are signs of "Danger! Don't approach!"?

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xyne
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Feb 4, 2004, 11:17 PM

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maybe it's more like... " bow down to me... surrender!!!!"
heheheeee.. when tyson growls n pounch on him, harvey usually lies on his back n smile cheeky...heeheee


xyne
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Feb 4, 2004, 11:27 PM

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ya.. i tend to keep them away from other ppl's house hen they go for walks... havoc the whole neighbourhood...

last time i had a spitz.. she very irritating to them lorr.. keep walking to other ppl's gate n bark her head off n strut off with pride wan.. heheee...aksi lerrr
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surchinmy
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Feb 4, 2004, 11:30 PM

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Hi people ...

Just a few thoughts ...

To sun-arrow ... Errr ... while most growls are signs of warning ... that is not always so ... some dogs will actually make soft low growls as signs of pleasure ... Our Beagle and mix-breed both make growling sounds when playing or when happy (I know it sounds weird, but it's true Tongue) ...

In the same way, not all showing of teeth are signs of aggression (some are actually doggie equivalent of human smiles) and not all wagging of tails are signs of friendliness (a slower side to side movement of the tail, is often a warning) ...

When trying to understand dog communication ... we really need to interpret the sound or signal a dog makes, in the context of the whole dog ... We need to observe the entire dog ... from general posture to placement of weight, and of course, the sound being made (if any).

For example: I would personally be more wary of a dog that is silent, but balanced (with weight slightly on forepaws), eyes alert, ears pricked or folded slightly back ... and a slight turn of the back lips ... than one that is visibly growling with weight on it's back paws ... The first dog is probably ready to take action, while the second dog is probably more on the defensive.

And while the following may overlap ... there is significant difference between a dog that is "aggressive" and one that is exhibiting "dominanance" or just being "territorial" ...

Convenient maybe, but it may not be correct to lump issue of dominance, territorial instinct, nervous disposition and aggression into the same category ... they may overlap, but that is not always the case ...

In order to effectively recondition, teach or train our dogs to behave in a manner acceptable to human society, we need to try and correctly identify the primary cause of the behaviour, habit and/or response (whether instinctive or induced) that we are trying to recondition or remove.

While a dog that is trying to assert dominance and one that is showing nervous aggression, may exhibit some very similar characteristics or signals, the cause is substatially different ... and we will want to treat and/or train a dominant dog in a different way from one that is actually showing nervous aggression ...

Learning "dog language" will help us greatly ... and it's actually a lot of fun ...

Cheers all Smile


(This post was edited by surchinmy on Feb 5, 2004, 12:02 AM)


xyne
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Feb 4, 2004, 11:40 PM

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wow... tx for sharing with us...
i totally agree with you.... sometimes we do misinterprete the dogs...

i oways thot when they wagged, they r happy.. heehee... sometimes they wag for 2 3 times n then slows n stops... n i wondered why happy??? heheheee

apparently their eyes do speak too...


surchinmy
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Feb 4, 2004, 11:57 PM

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Hi ...

Yes ... most correct ... dogs' eyes do speak too ... but dogs do use their eyes and eye contact in quite a different way from us ... Smile ... For us (and most primates), when we communicate with another person, we like to maintain some form of eye contact ... and we use eye contract to show our attention, focus and interest in the message being conveyed.

For dogs (as canids), it's quite the opposite ... and eye contact can be confrontational or rude ... You will notice that when friendly dogs (and dogs with good command of doggie language) meet, they will avoid making & holding eye contact.

When 2 dogs make serious eye contract ... it's a good time to keep the dogs apart ... when there is direct eye contact, and neither dog backs off ... watch out!!!

When approaching a new or strange dog ... avoid making direct eye contract ... and approach the new dog slightly from the side ... that shows your politeness and your wish to be friends ...

Have fun.

Cheers ... Smile


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xyne
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Feb 5, 2004, 12:10 AM

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ohh... wowwww....
tx for the info...
does tat mean i shouldnt look into my babies eyes???

harvey doesnt like to stare at me up close..popeye n tyson loves to look into my eyes... sometimes they will stare at me from outside the door...for a reaaaalllllyyyyy long time.. if i open the door, they will get up n come greet me...wagging n all..

is it the same??


surchinmy
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Feb 5, 2004, 12:25 AM

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Yes ... my error and I didn't explain clearly in earlier posting ... sorry ... Crazy

Well ... I would say ... it is probably a good policy not to make direct or hold eye contract with a new or strange dog ... until you find out how well socialised the dog is ...

Our own dogs, or dogs that are properly socialised learn pretty quickly and get used to the fact that when we (humans) look make eye contract ... it's not a sign of confrontation but one of greeting (dogs probably think is some weird human habit, but they forgive us ... *LOL*) ... And properly socialised dogs soon learn that making eye contract is one way of attracting our attention ... The process of socialisation also re-conditions our dogs to accept basic human behaviour and signals ...

Often dogs understand us far better than we understand them ... Tongue

But as you have noticed ... some dogs will remain apprehensive of making eye contract or holding eye contact for long periods, with such dogs, return the politeness by not forcing the dog to make eye contract.

Cheers ... Smile


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aragorn2976
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Feb 5, 2004, 2:21 AM

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LaughLaughLaugh...

I'd guess she really want to aksi them-la... TongueTongue I think it is natural that the dogs in the house would bark... Tongue

My other neighbour's dog was so cute. Last time, when I took Oofy (mixed MS) out for a walk, he really liked Oofy, would come up and sniff at her. But my Oofy didn't care for him.. LaughLaugh Probably thought that he was too young for her... SlySly



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xyne
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Feb 6, 2004, 7:19 PM

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ya... i noticed tat usually if the dogs have eye contact..after awhile they will usually fight wan...

ask u hoh... 2 of my dogs look me in the eye n they will wag wan.. but my GR rarely looks me in the eye.. usually likes to turn his head away if we r close.. why ah?


xyne
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Feb 6, 2004, 7:27 PM

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the dogs in the house bark cos their territory is threatened kua...heheheeee

i didnt know dogs could tell age wan woh... can they? so far havent found any eliglible bitch for the boys back home.. gosh..

tried to socialise popeye with a female bitch..think they couldnt stand each other..dunno why...

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