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huh New User Aug 24, 2003, 7:22 AM Views: 4000 Any breeder that sells GR? I wanna get one GR pup. Hope to knows some breeders and get in good price. Erm...kinda expensive if buying from the pet shops. Do anyone knows any breeder?..... Really hope u guyz can introduce them to me. Thanx.

JolinG Doggyman Aug 25, 2003, 10:41 AM Views: 3987 Re: [huh] Any breeder that sells GR? u can call mka for breeders number.... or go to dog shows n ask those ppl showing GR...most of them are home breeders

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 25, 2003, 7:17 PM Views: 3982 Re: [huh] Any breeder that sells GR? ... Hello ... JolinG's idea/suggestion that you go to a dog show - is a great idea ... go look at the GRs there and meet the breeders yourself ... Meet people who own GRs - speak with them - learn from them - Buying a pure breed dog is NOT JUST ABOUT paying the price or looking for the cutest puppy ... Puppies grow up - and what they will be like when grown up depends very much on how their parents, their bloodlines, and the kind of breeder ... Not all breeders are the same and not all GRs are the same ... whether you are looking for a pet or show dog ... you must do your own research into the breed and research the breeder too ... Consider the qualities you are looking for in your dog ... (a) Do you want good health? ... If you want good health and soundness in your dog - then you must find an ethical, knowledgeable & responsible person or breeder who has bred for good health ... Unhealthy dogs produce unhealthy puppies ... People who don't know better or breeders who don't care (and only breed to make money) often breed unhealthy puppies for sale to the unsuspecting new owners ... and you may well end up with a dog with genetic defects, inherited diseases or low immunity ... all of which may be hidden at puppy stage ... and you will end up heartbroken ... (b) Do you want good temperament? ... If you want good temperament (meaning, good steady personality, no aggressiveness or viciousness, and intelligence) in your dog - then you must find an ethical, knowledgeable & responsible person or breeder or breeder who has bred for good temperament ... Dogs with bad temperament often breed puppies with suspect temperament ... Bad breeders don't care what they breed as long as it sells ... Unknowledgeable people who don't know any better also run the danger of producing puppies with poor temperament ... The magic about a GR is its wonderful intelligence and temperament - don't accept anything less ... GR's are lovely friendly dogs ... easy to train, lovely to have at home ... great with people & kids ... but these are qualities that will only be maintained by ethical, knowledgeable & responsible breeders ... (c) Do you want show quality? ... Are you looking for show conformation (meaning physical characteristics & structure good enough to show)? ... If you are, then once again you need to find a breeder who breeds to specifically to improve the breed ... Poor breeders seldom maintain any quality conformation ... It doesn't matter how many Titles appear in the certificate ... breeding show quality dogs is more than just putting 2 dogs with titles together ... There are plenty of people in this forum who own GRs ... check the "gundog" postings ... write to them & learn as much as you can before buying a GR ... learn from our mistakes ... Here's wishing you the best in your search ... Cheers

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 26, 2003, 11:20 PM Views: 3967 Re: [JolinG] Any breeder that sells GR? hey that is a brilliant idea, to ask ppl showing GR at shows...have never thought of that but on other hand, those ppl are often too busy at their shows la :/ want to ask a bit also no chance. regards, hunter

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 26, 2003, 11:25 PM Views: 3968 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, interesting, interesting. but how do u actually determine if that particular dog the breeder is trying to sell has the traits that he claim the dogs has? for ex, dogs with NO genetic defects, good temperament dogs and etc, for non-experts, we can't tell if those pups are as good as they claim to be :/ also it's not quite possible to do a health checkup for the puppy first before purchasing the it. often innocent buyers who hoped for the best puppies ended up with dogs with hip problems, inherited defects and etc. really, it's not easy to find a good and responsible breeder nowadays. how sad, how sad. regards, hunter

JolinG Doggyman Aug 26, 2003, 11:55 PM Views: 3965 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? ahha cannnnnnnn can ask wat infact if u ask they would be so happy to hear form u loh.... like me if ppl ask bout my ckcs...so bangga lar.. u planning to get another wan arh.....i also wan GR lar...but then sigh.....

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 1:08 AM Views: 3958 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? Hello ... Say, how is Hunter's foot/feet? ... better I hope ... You wrote: " ... but how do u actually determine if that particular dog the breeder is trying to sell has the traits that he claim the dogs has? ..." A wise breeder wrote (and I paraphrase) " ... if you want to know what a puppy is going to be like then look at the sire & dam. If the sire or dam is in Outer Mongolia ... go there by hook or by crook - get on a horse ... but go see the parents ... otherwise beware! ..." The hallmark of responsible breeders is the love they have for their dogs, their breed and the pride and joy they take from their breeding. I (personally) would be extremely cautious of any breeder who is reluctant or refuses to let me see his kennel or the parents of the puppies. A responsible breeder will invariably allow you to visit their kennel and meet with the parents of the puppies. If one parent is not available, they will tell you where you can view that parent. I would visit the breeder's kennel, check the condition & temperament of his/her dogs and watch how the breeder interacts with his/her dogs ... ... And I would expect a responsible breeder to ask me as many questions as I have for him/her ... A responsible breeder will have time & patience for me (regardless of my inexperience) ... and will also want to find out as much as they can, about me ... Good breeders do not hide - they are happy to show & share, and will seek to find the best owners possible for their babies. This is a site that outlines some of the marks of a good breeder: http://www.canismajor.com/dog/responbr.html You also write: " ...but on other hand, those ppl are often too busy at their shows la :/ want to ask a bit also no chance ..." Always got chance ... ... people who really love dogs - have nothing but time to talk about their dogs ... given a chance they will even talk about the texture of dog poop ... ... A breeder who has no time (or who is not prepared to make time) to speak about their dogs or their breeding ... *hmmm* ... ... 'nuff said ... Yes, you are right ... it can be a little difficult to find good breeders ... but they are there ... As dog owners we have a responsibility too, to ourselves and to the baby we wish to find ... we need to be a little more careful ... learn a little more ... and be prepared to spend a little more time searching ... Hugs to Hunter ... get well soon ... (This post was edited by surchinmy on Aug 27, 2003, 2:02 AM)

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 7:45 AM Views: 3953 Re: [JolinG] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, i also wan GR le.. but then.. (sigh also) :/ since the topic was brought up, thought i'd keep the info for "future reference". hehe. regards, hunter

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 8:03 AM Views: 3951 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, thanks for concern, hunter's feet is healin' up pretty fast now :) really good points u have there. so the bottom line is, look at the sire and dam in search of a healthy puppy. to be frank i have not even visited a kennel before my whole life :/ and all i've heard from people are breeders are bad, bad, bad people. perhaps part of the mistake of purchasing a sick pup was also owner's fault of not researching more and find a reputable breeder (perhaps they were too eager to get a cute pup- i think that's the BIGGEST mistake that most of us make) point taken, good breeders do exist. lol, the next time i'm choosing a dog, i make sure i round up all the good breeders in Malaysia like a herd of sheeps. regards, hunter

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 8:54 AM Views: 3949 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? Hunter will heal fast for sure ... he looks like a real healthy doggie ... ... Read what your vet said ... *hmmm*... not sure about that but guess most of us don't have easy access to beaches & the sea anyway ... so the issue is kinda moot ... ... Yes ... many of us make the mistake of not checking enough ... We learnt our lesson the hard way with our first 2 dogs ... ... But in many ways we benefited too - had to learn so much about training, dog ailments and proper feeding to try and undo & remedy bad breeding ... You won't believe the lengths we went to, to find our RRidgebacks ... LOL ... went completely to the other extreme even ...

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 8:59 AM Views: 3944 Re: [JolinG, Hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? ... Hey you two ... what about Labs? ... you don't like Labs ah??? ... Check out these Lab sites ... www.blackboykennels.com.au/welcome.html www.rocheby.fsnet.co.uk/ ... They have dogs to die for ... salivate even ... LOL

minglmy Puppycom Veteran Aug 27, 2003, 9:41 AM Views: 3944 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? wow, I'm impressed with the infos you have provided. This would definitely help lots of those who is looking for a pups. Good job ! cheers, minglmy

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 10:15 AM Views: 3942 Re: [minglmy] Any breeder that sells GR? ... thanks so much ... ... Have had pain & hearthache caused by bad breeding and irresponsible breeders ... Would like to help others avoid the same ... Have also had the luck to meet some wonderful breeders ... who have brought much joy into our lives and taught us so much ... that we willingly share ...

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 8:00 PM Views: 3936 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, so where'd u get ur RRs? how far did u go to find the parents...??? regards, hunter

Trivor K9 Servant Aug 27, 2003, 8:49 PM Views: 3933 Re: [huh] Any breeder that sells GR? Hello Huh, I hope you have read through every thread here. They are very informative and meaningful. 1st of all, don't ever go for the price and look. Sometimes you need to pay extra more to get a better deal and some extend of gurantee. I myself got a cheap puppy from cheap breeder and ended up paying high medical bill but that is of of the story... I know a good breeder, which i intended to get from him next time. Pls email to me as I don't intend to "advertise" him here. How to consider good? As we have continuos email communication for a year. But problem is you need to wait as he allows his female dog to breed once a year only and for 3 years only. So, it is pretty "difficult" to get his puppies hahaaa.... yeah, my email is" lohs . Price? You can find out personally from him. Best of luck!! ~ Trivor ~ ~ SC & Low, mama and dada ~

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 27, 2003, 9:06 PM Views: 3932 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? ... ... That is a long story ... ... maybe better if I email you ... Just boring you is okay lah ... but don' wan to bore everybody here ... s

cdmoo ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 12:18 AM Views: 3925 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hi surchinmy, I'm very disturbed by your URLs.. U made me very tempted to import one Those r simply gorgeous! regards, CD Moo

Riccaval ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 12:45 AM Views: 3923 Re: [cdmoo] Any breeder that sells GR? haha cd.....what r u waiting for. really 'lau how sui' man get one and join us for the dog show. and ask boon and wkser to get one also. import in bulk cheaper. hahaha

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 12:52 AM Views: 3920 Re: [cdmoo] Any breeder that sells GR? *arrrgh* ... Know exactly what you mean even ... ...

cdmoo ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 1:02 AM Views: 3916 Re: [Riccaval] Any breeder that sells GR? hi Derrick, I wonder how much .. Would the Aussie version cheaper than U.K version? regards, CD Moo

JolinG Doggyman Aug 28, 2003, 1:17 AM Views: 3914 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? oooh oooh..keep me in mind also!!! if u found one next time i also wan to VIew ehhehe maybe could even get littermates!! but then....its only wishfull thinking! ahahha

JolinG Doggyman Aug 28, 2003, 1:22 AM Views: 3912 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? labs are alright(have to say this lar..dun wan to offend ppl with labs) but i prefer dogs with coat....i just find them nicer...thats my preference lar...not trying to dissuade anybody or anything!! long coat or short coat they also shed wat..so......long coat lar....i char bor wat..like to comb here comb there...like playing with dolls..ehhe

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 2:28 AM Views: 3909 Re: [JolinG] Any breeder that sells GR? Ah soo ... understand ... u wan long coated hunting dog or not? ... called Shih Tzu ...

RealityDreamer Doggyman Aug 28, 2003, 4:20 AM Views: 3906 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hello don't forget to share with me your adventure too and also why you chose the RR's if you're a little busy, no worries..can always meet up and have a story telling session. P.S. are you going to the Sept. 14th gathering? ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 5:52 AM Views: 3902 Re: [RealityDreamer] Any breeder that sells GR? Sure thing ... ... will tell you the Long Story and bore you too ... *Hmmm* ... 14th Sept ... that would be fun ... will try and make it ... and see how many doggies we can bring ... ... As for choosing RRs ... I saw my first RR a long long long time ago when I was still in college ... during summer holidays, I visited a friend in the West Indies ... and her dad had a brace of RRs ... I thought they were beautiful ... great looks & temperament ... Over the years, I never quite forgot them ... and when the time was right for doggies ... I searched for RRs ... Never too busy for doggies I guess ... ...

JolinG Doggyman Aug 28, 2003, 8:51 AM Views: 1450 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? oh i also wan..........i really like that mackay wan..and that er....ah huat fellas wan but sure very 'ka ching ka ching' wan...... i think theirs are very chun n chick! ahhaha sure its a 'hunting' dog u know..whoooo wouldnt wan!..aakkakakka

Riccaval ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 8:29 PM Views: 1442 Re: [cdmoo] Any breeder that sells GR? Cd, for sure the Aussie version will be cheaper, just check out the exchage rate. As for the quality I'm not sure but those from down under sure look good to me. Why dont you give them an email and find out.

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 8:54 PM Views: 1438 Re: [surchinmy] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, beautiful, beautiful labbies!!!! noticed that the URL u given is not local. i'm wondering, how much will it cost at total to import a dog (say, a GR or a labbie) from australia? i've asked many ppl but no one seem to want to tell :/ i know, stupid question. i just want to know if there is any *HOPE* for me to import a beauty in in future. regards, hunter (This post was edited by hunter on Aug 28, 2003, 8:59 PM)

junkgirl Dog Kichi Aug 28, 2003, 9:21 PM Views: 1434 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? Dear Hunter, For your info, GR puppies cost between AUD$600-$800 each and it will cost about AUD$1800-3000 (depending on situation) for an agent to bring it back to KL. So in total it will cost u a minimum of at least AUD$2500 (over RM5000) to bring a GR back to KL from Aus. Might be slighly cheaper if u bring it back yourself without using an agent (maybe AUD$1000) but that means a lot of paperwork and hassle!! I think it's better to buy it locally. Regards, Junkgirl

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 9:25 PM Views: 1433 Re: [junkgirl] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, thanks a lot for the info. i know it won't be cheap. well, it's worth dreaming to have one though :/ regards, hunter

junkgirl Dog Kichi Aug 28, 2003, 9:30 PM Views: 1432 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? Well....the GRs in Msia is not bad either. Hunter is local rite? And a very good looking dog. I just love the color of Hunter's coat. How much r they selling GR puppies for in Msia? Junkgirl

hunter Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 9:35 PM Views: 1428 Re: [junkgirl] Any breeder that sells GR? hi, unfortunatly GRs in malaysia are not quite of good quality...(referring to those without champion bloodlines) and the size and coat condition differ a lot from those we see in US and other foreign countries. could be due to breeding or weather here. GR puppies here will cost at least RM 1,400. regards, hunter

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Aug 28, 2003, 9:44 PM Views: 1426 Re: [hunter] Any breeder that sells GR? Hi ya ... For sure its okay to ask ... No question earnestly put is either silly, stupid or unecessary ... ... (This post was edited by surchinmy on Aug 28, 2003, 9:45 PM)

sweeeng ALPHA Aug 29, 2003, 6:05 PM Views: 1410 Re: [huh] Any breeder that sells GR? You still looking for GR? I know a breeder but not sure what's the price ... email me at winnie_figinroc and I'll give you the number... regards, sweeeng