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arthur ALPHA Jun 30, 2003, 4:05 AM Views: 4462 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi there everyone! The 51st Obedience Trails will be held in Penang: Date: Sunday, July 27 2003 Time: 8.30am Venue: Japanese Garden, Jalan Mas, Green Lane, Penang Judge: Mr. Tan Teik Poh (Malaysia) Classes offered: Pre-Novice and Novice ONLY. Closing date for submission of entry forms: July 13, 2003 . No entry will be accepted at the show. Calling the Penang lang (Boon, Steven, Patricia and rest)..any directions for outstation folks on how to get there from the Penang bridge? and from the Hotel Vistana? Rdgs Arthur

kinzonu Member Jun 30, 2003, 5:12 AM Views: 4457 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Arthur, Glad to hear that Obedience trial is conducted in Pg this time, however, i am not able to enter Jacky for this time as I hv to help my parent on that day (St Anne). So see u guy next round. Will u enter ur MS for this trial? Best Regards Steven Tan @ Kinzonu tw.myblog.yahoo.com/kinzonu (This post was edited by kinzonu on Jun 30, 2003, 5:13 AM)

lulugurl ALPHA Jun 30, 2003, 7:07 AM Views: 4448 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hie, If you are coming from the bridge, go all the way until u went through the underpass in Greenlane. Go straight on until you see a flyover near LAM WAH EE Hospital. Turn left at the traffic light before CALTEX STATION. Then after a coffee shop name 'Singapore Coffee shop", then right. You should see a garden just down the road on your right. I hope this direction will not be too confusing. For those who is staying in Vistana, you can use the coastal highway and follow above directions. ~Cherio~ Penang Lang? Click Here~! Silkies Owner? Click Here~!

arthur ALPHA Jun 30, 2003, 4:41 PM Views: 4441 Re: [kinzonu] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Steven! Most probably it will be Lee Ron going for his 1st pre-novice trail. Hope the naughty boy will behave himself! Let's hope it won't rain that Sunday or the night before! Rdgs Arthur

arthur ALPHA Jun 30, 2003, 4:43 PM Views: 4440 Re: [lulugurl] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lulugirl, Thks for the directions. Should be able to find my way there.. Since the trail starts at 8.30am, most probably will have to spend one night up in Penang on Saturday if not, will have drive from KL at 4am! Rdgs Arthur

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 1, 2003, 4:42 AM Views: 4428 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Arthur, Heard alot about you from Eve during the Ipoh Competition ! So you are coming for this competition in Penang eh!! Great! I should not miss this as my house is just walking distance! If you are not sure how to get to the place, give us a call! It's very easy to go around Penang! If you are coming from Vistana, get to the opposite road (Yeap Chor Ee Road) and it's a straight road all the way. You'll come to a traffic light but head on straight as well till you reach a T-junction, turn right (it's one way street) and drive all the way straight. At the 4th traffic light turn left (Caltex station is just right in front of the junction) and the kopitiam which Eve mentioned is just on your right, take a left turn at the junction and Walla! you are there!

arthur ALPHA Jul 1, 2003, 6:25 AM Views: 4424 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi there! I took some pics of Eve and Jaz during their stint in the showring. Pics may be a bit small as there's no zoom function. Sorry.. Eve handled Jaz quite well. And Jaz herself was behaving like a pro! You can ask Boon on how Jaz stacked herself! Quite a natural. Next time, drink more Blue Pepsi! Will you guys be coming down for the Dogathon with Steven, Pat and Boon? It'll be great to meet up with the Penang Lang again. And thanks for the directions to Japanese Garden. Rdgs Arthur

boon Doggyman Jul 1, 2003, 8:21 AM Views: 4415 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Yeah Arthur, Stack like a GSD, a short tail BLUE 'GSD' Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 2:43 AM Views: 4404 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Oh really! that's nice, are you posting it up? Can you send a copy to my e-mail : Lisa_Lee@dell.com? Thanks! Too bad I missed the Ipoh Show, I wish I can make it for the coming outing at KK as well, but again, due to my work, I can't get out.... . Do take lost of picture and post them up. I won't be able to make it to the dogathon, but definately will be there at the Japanese Garden.. now contemplating whether or not to enter Jaz for the obedience trail.... I heard that we only have 3 go at it, if fail, we can never enter again, is that true?

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 2, 2003, 4:50 AM Views: 4402 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi, You may enter as many time as u like until qualify for 3 times. That is not true only enter for 3 times include fail as well so don't worry go for it...

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 6:13 PM Views: 4388 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Cindy, You mean Jaz can enter, but cannot fail more than 3 times is that right?? what are the stages to go through? Any idea? Kinda new to this.

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 2, 2003, 6:29 PM Views: 4387 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lisa, You may enter Jaz until she pass for 3 times, that's mean if fail more than 3 times also never mind. Maximum for passing for each stage is 3 times afterthat u have to go for the higher stage (Novice). U no need to go through any stages, the first stage is Pre-Novice. U got it what I mean this time...any questions feel free to ask. Always welcome ur questions... Best Regards Cin-Di

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 8:12 PM Views: 4378 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Cindy, Thanks man! Have a clearer picture now.. so I can only join in and win for max 3 times then I have to move to Novice. So first it's Pre-Novice, then Novice, then what? Any idea? Rgds,.. Lisa

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 2, 2003, 9:06 PM Views: 4374 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Lisa, Stage 1 - Pre-Novice Passing score : 70 /100 Satge 2 - Novice 75 /100 Stage 3 - Intermediate 150 /200 Final Stage - Open 160 /200 Cheers Cin-Di

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 10:00 PM Views: 4371 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Cindy, Thanks a million on the info! quick question, below are the stages to go through, but what does the 70/100 ; 75/100 ; 150/200 ; 160/200 means??

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 2, 2003, 10:19 PM Views: 4369 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! oh...let take this as one of the example 70/100 means that u have to get the score 70 marks out of 100 in order to pass pre-novice level. If break the sit stay & down stay consider fail as well so in order to qualify/pass sit & down stay are really important.

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 10:26 PM Views: 4368 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Cindy, Thanks! now that makes more sense to me .Happen to know what are the list of things Jaz needs to go through to pass? Sit and Stay is one of them, what about others?

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 2, 2003, 10:40 PM Views: 4366 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lisa, Heel On Lead - 40pts, Stand Stay - 10pts, Recall - 20pts, Sit Stay(1/2min)-15pts & Down Stay(1min)-15pts (Pre-Novice Level) Add up total-70 or above(pass) but once break the Sit or down stay or either both then fail no matter how high the marks u get from others exercises. Cin-Di

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 2, 2003, 11:37 PM Views: 4360 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! OK! got it!! thanks for the info.. will go home tonight and time Jazz and see if she can stay for that long.... gonna be a tough challenge man....

arthur ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 12:31 AM Views: 4359 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Jaz! Me kai-poh a bit here. Cin di has given you good info. Here's something I posted before that might help you.. For Pre-Novice, the following will be tested: Heelwork (40pts) - Walking on leash with handler,normal pace. The team (ie. you and the doggie) will be judged on your responses to these commands: Forward,Halt, Right turn, Left turn,Stand & About turn. Next would be the figure of 8 heelwork. Stand stay (on leash) (10pts)- The dog is to stand steadily beside the handler on a loose leash and not show undue resentment or shyness. Move forward and stand your dog on order from judge. Both of you stand in this position while the judge circle no less than 1 meter around. Recall (on leash) (20pts) - Sit the dog, walk about 6 ft in front, call the dog. Dog comes and sits in front of the handler, handler issues the finish command, dog moves behind the handler to resume the heel position on the left side. Sit stay (off leash) (15pts)- Sit the dog, remove the leash, issue the stay command, leave the dog, walk about 20ft away, about turn & face the dog. Wait 30sec. Return to the dog and resume the heel position. The dog's front paws should NOT leave contact with the ground. (otherwise the dog would automatically be disqualified!) Down stay (off leash) (15pts) - Same as sit stay above except you down the dog before moving away. Wait 1 minute. Dog should NOT stand up otherwise it'll be auto disqualified. Dog can shift about but the body must NOT leave contact with the ground. Passing mark is 70 for pre-novice. Like Cin di mentioned, you have to score at least 50% of the total marks for each exercise or else you will not qualify even if the total marks is more than 70. For Eg. Heelwork: 30 (out of 40) Stand stay: 8 (out of 10) Recall: 9 (out of 20) Sit stay: 15 (out of 15) Down stay: 15 (out of 15) Total: 77 (More than the min.70) However, this entry will not qualify due to the Recall exercise is less than 50% of the required marks. Hope this would clarify things further. Happy training! Rdgs Arthur

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 1:03 AM Views: 4353 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! WOW!!! I AM IMPRESSED!!!! THIS IS AMAZING STUFF MAN!!! I've printed it out and will go back and see if Jaz is anywhere near what is required... Thanks for sharing!! Heard from Eve you are the 'chuin ka' - pro when it comes to obedience training Mmmhhhmm.. must really see you in action for the coming trail!!!

arthur ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 1:55 AM Views: 4352 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lisa! No lah..me still very much at beginer level . Pros are like Max Lee and the trainers. Amazing stuff they can do as a team. In fact, I was inspired by a MKA obedience demo (by MKA trainer Freddie and his Porsche - Border Collie) when I first saw them in action at the 2001 Dogathon. There'll be another demo this 2003 Dogathon to thrill the crowds. I told myself, if I can train my schnauzers to be even half as good, it'll be an acomplishment. Still got a long way to go... And the winner for the obedience trial held in 2002 MIPE show in the Mines, KL at pre-novice level was a australian silky terrier with a lady handler! And information is for sharing after all right? I remember how it was for me when I first got started. Rdgs Arthur

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 2:05 AM Views: 4350 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Oh yeah kah! I didn't know about that.. hhhmmpphh... must brainwash Eve and my dad to train up Jazz already! ahhahahah!!! let them get the hang of it and we should be going in for more show! hahahah!! I sure didn't know that the winner was also a silky terrier, I tried giving out commands like sit, down, stay to Jazz last night and she did pretty alright.. maybe that's because I was having "Doggyman" snack in my hand .. but at least it's a start. Really appreciate all your information on this! thanks a million!

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 6:13 AM Views: 4340 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lisa, If any problem when u train ur jaz, u may just give me a call or come to knock knock my house's door. always welcome....... Happy training... Cin-Di

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 6:22 AM Views: 4338 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Cin-Di, First of all, I musn't forget to compliment how cute your two pom. looks like on the photo . So have you send them for Novice?? Any tips on how to get your dog to STAY?? I think that's the biggest obstacle me and Eve going to face on Jaz.. she seems to be easily distracted.... hhhmmphhh...

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 6:25 AM Views: 1432 Re: [arthur] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Arthur, Wow...very clear informations for all the exercises in pre-novice level. It really help a lot Thanks for sharing. I saw ur schnauzers (Lee Sha) performed in the Ipoh trial...pretty good How old ? ?? Look like very playful... So will u enter her for the obedience trial in Penang ? Best Regards Cin-Di

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 6:43 AM Views: 1432 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Hi Lisa, Thanks for ur kind words...u saw them in real right not really look that cute actually. Old dogs already cannot use "cute" this word liao...hehehe My old dogs...they can't even do well in pre-novice level. old dog very stuburn lo...very difficult to train up. Actually, don't have time to train...hehehe I know how but I'm not good in explaination...so if possible find one day come out and I'll share my experience with u & eve. Hope this will help..... I think u have to ask Arthur, he is really good in explaination....hehehe Cheers Cin-Di

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 6:50 AM Views: 1432 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! All the best & good luck in the trainning......happy training.... (This post was edited by i_idnic on Jul 3, 2003, 6:55 AM)

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 5:29 PM Views: 1422 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Yes, I have seen the two lovely dogs. Hey, they are cute in real life too ok! during the recent BBQ party, alot of my friends were complimenting the two poms . You did a very good job with the grooming! Are you coming this Sunday to the Japenese Garden? If you are, perhaps you would be kind enough to show me some of the tricks for the coming obedience trail!

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 6:51 PM Views: 1419 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! okok...thanks for all the compliment Very sorry I won't be there this Sunday...just give me a call any time when u free after monday I'll come out to meet u. Don't worry u won't "ma huan" me 1 cause I stay nearby there only...

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 7:30 PM Views: 1417 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! Thanks in advance.. but working days are always not very good for me as I'll be stuck in the office till late evening usually.... You are back for holiday ya? .. so must be pretty free.. have lots of time to spend with your dogs...

i_idnic Enthusiast Jul 3, 2003, 7:39 PM Views: 1416 Re: [jaz] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! oh too bad...never mind next sunday lo if possible Yupe....back for holiday to play with my dogs hehehe.. Yea...I'm very free but only for this few weeks only...

jaz Ultra ALPHA Jul 3, 2003, 8:28 PM Views: 1414 Re: [i_idnic] 51st Obedience Trail in Penang! OK then. Thanks! Will try to tryout all the criterias to pass at home with Jaz, if I can rush home in time in the early evening, I'll take her out for trials as well. Thanks again!