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Amanda85
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Sep 8, 2006, 9:46 PM


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Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
A very entertaining video of FCI Agility Championship. Hope u like it.

www.dropshots.com/videolink.php?userid=174232&cdate=20060905&ctime=221148&showVideo=1

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(This post was edited by Amanda85 on Sep 8, 2006, 9:52 PM)


milooh
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Sep 12, 2006, 10:33 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Hi there, thanks for posting the video. I moved to the States in June 1998 and have been involved in competitive agility for 4.5 years. I've gone to the USDAA World Cynosport and NADAC Championships twice and numerous local agility shows in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and California. After watching the video, it's more like all the downs of agility. That's the worst nightmare for an agility handler especially at that level.

I have met some of the top handlers in the States and been around competitive handlers a lot. Believe me, the handlers do not think it's funny when things like that happen even at local agility trials.

Having said that, I have nothing against the video being shown or produced though, people can make and post videos at public forums or on the internet within reasons. It is entertaining in a way but it is very painful to watch for some people. Just my humble opinion.Smile
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(This post was edited by milooh on Sep 12, 2006, 10:35 AM)


Amanda85
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Sep 12, 2006, 6:30 PM


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Re: [milooh] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
initially d video r showing d down....but towards d end, d video r showing d emotion n expression of those who did d clear run...

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SupaMolly
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Oct 16, 2006, 2:04 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Amanda85...

Oh my my my MY !

some may find the vid interesting.. but personally i pity the dogs... i thnk the heart will get attacks !

maybe afterthe event, all dogs sleep for 24 hours


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Amanda85
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Oct 16, 2006, 6:11 PM


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Re: [SupaMolly] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
eh....y arh??

my dog alwiz speed tat why...juz tat she did it without any 'direction'....

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SupaMolly
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Oct 17, 2006, 3:34 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Amanda85...

well, i find them pity after seeing them run like mad.. gave me a feeling that they are like running from JB to PERLIS.. wahaa !

i also think their owners are supa exausted..

haha.. pacco.. hyper.. but er.. without direction/... maybe u would wanna work on her being "directionful"?


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Amanda85
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Oct 17, 2006, 5:26 PM


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Re: [SupaMolly] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
i think everydog love 2 do diff stuff....

but 2 some dogs, opportunity to run seems like a big reward....

it juz like when i go jogging wit pacco.....whenever she keeps going n tugging, while i'm d one lagging behind...i knew that she juz simply luv it...

about her prob of unfocus....probably her symphathetic nervous system was being overstimulated....Laugh

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SupaMolly
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Oct 18, 2006, 12:37 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Amanda85..

Hmmm... u just gave me an insight into wat dogs think.. hehe

im wondering how Molly will think when i take her out into open field.. at home she ade dash like a rocket..

hahaha ! then ah.. give her some mild vasodilator prescription then.. hehe ! by then maybe u will be able to be as fast as her.. while u.. take stronger dose of vasoconstrictor ... kekeke !


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rayter
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Mar 7, 2008, 7:18 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Thanks for posting the video. I like it!!!






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Amanda85
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Mar 8, 2008, 7:52 AM


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Re: [rayter] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
yes, agility is fun...

if u like the sport, u can consider joining with your dog

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(This post was edited by Amanda85 on Mar 8, 2008, 7:59 AM)


Scotch
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May 2, 2008, 8:13 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Is there a certain criteria the dog has to meet to join agility? Because I'm thinking about enrolling Scotch for agility. I did one of the homemade jumps and he jumped once over it, but later refused to. So I'll just try again another day.


Amanda85
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May 2, 2008, 9:05 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
there's no criteria... as long as both owner and dog enjoys it.

we started off jumping at home too....

to make your dog go over the hurdle, try using his favourite food to motivate him.

agility is one of the best sports to help your dog boost up his confidence.

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Scotch
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May 7, 2008, 5:16 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Yesterday, I put a long pole under the cushions of two chairs. He completely refused to jump over it. I tried to use food to lure him but he didn't even want to take it.And the height of it was very short. It barely came up to my knees. Then,instead of jumping over the pole, he jumped on the chair, went to the side of the chair,jumped down and ran to the kitchen. And the chair was much higher than the pole. i think it's because the pole is unfamiliar to him. Everything takes time. He was scared of his toy at first, and now, he's biting it like crazy. I'll have him jumping over cushions next time. Pls SMS me where the agility training ground will be this Sunday. I would love to come.


Amanda85
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May 7, 2008, 5:20 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
maybe u shld start off by placing the pole on the ground first... let him get comfortable with it and then slowly increase the height, 1 inch at a time...

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Scotch
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May 7, 2008, 5:23 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I'll try it today and see what happens.


Amanda85
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May 7, 2008, 5:29 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
try feeding his dinner during the training time. hand feed him everytime he cross the pole.

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Scotch
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May 8, 2008, 5:56 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I tried putting the pole on the ground. At first, he didn't even want to walk over it. Then I use food to coax him. Then he was ok. He was walking over it by himself. Then I raised it a bit. And again, he refused. So I started playing with him and he jumped twice over it and didn't want to jump any more. He can't get the idea to jump by himself.


Amanda85
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May 8, 2008, 6:08 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
if he show refusal when u raise the bar, this indicate that u are progressing too fast.

put the pole down again and practise on it first, give a command like 'over'. if he can walk across it with you luring the food. then the next day, hide the food in your palm instead. after you notice that he is getting reliable and he understand what exactly is the exercise (sometimes this might take days). then u can move on to increase the height.

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Scotch
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May 8, 2008, 6:15 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Now, he just walks over the pole by himself. He seems ok with it. Should I tell him 'over' every time he does that? As for raising the pole, I knew I was taking it too far. Smile. I'll raise it in either a few days or weeks time.


Amanda85
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May 8, 2008, 6:29 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
u can use any words that u wish, 'over' or 'jump'.

adding a command will make it easier for him to understand. he will learn 'over' means cross the pole. so even u raise the pole, when he hear 'over', he knows he must cross to get his reward.

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Scotch
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May 8, 2008, 6:32 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I think I'll use 'jump'. I have a feeling he might respond to it better, as it's a one syllable word. I'll try it out today.


Scotch
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May 12, 2008, 4:46 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Now he gets the idea that when I say jump, he has to jump over the pole to get the treat. Since he was ok with the pole on the ground , I decided to raise it to 26cm or 10 inches. At first, he didn't want to jump, but I kept on saying jump, I could see he wanted to jump but was unsure. He kept putting his paw on the pole. After a while of me saying jump, he finally jumped and I gave him a treat. I practised this for a day (about 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes in the evening) and the next day I raised it again. This time to a height of 41cm or 16 inches. And again, he really didn't want to jump. But I kept on encouraging him and after about 5 seconds of persuading, he finally jumped and I gave him a treat. We practised again and again and he jumped everytime, but only with food, though. I'm so proud of him. Smile I was wondering, should I raise the pole higher? Or just keep practising at this height?


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 12, 2008, 5:03 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
sounds like scotch is progressing fast. but always make sure u increase the height after u are sure he is very confident with the lower one. btw, are u practising the jump with him on grass or soil ground?

16 inches is good enough for starters. after your dog knows what exactly he need to do when they sees a pole, they can jump almost any height in agility. the maximum height in agility is 26 inches. but if i know that my dog can jump 26 inches, i don't need to practise on 26 inch everytime. because prolong jumping on such height can be too stressful for our dogs.

so is good that u can perfect his training on 10 inch for a week, then raise it 16 inches...try to stand next to him while he jump, instead of u standing across the jump.

from then on, u can try adding another pole few metres apart and try on double jumping in a line.

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Scotch
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May 12, 2008, 5:13 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I'm actually practising on carpet. Is that bad? Because the grass outside he only use to poop and pee. I'll try doing double jumping now, but at the same height.


Amanda85
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May 12, 2008, 6:14 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
once a while on carpet is alright. but for long term is might be harmful. all the jumping and pouncing on hard surface can be detrimental to the dog's joints. grass will be preferable if u are training him frequently.

my dog also pee n poo in grass.. but i did all the training with her on the small place too.

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Scotch
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May 12, 2008, 6:39 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I'll try to train him on the grass. btw; how do you know if your dogs like jumping? I'm not sure if scotch likes it, because now he seems to be doing it just for the food.


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 12, 2008, 6:51 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
if we were only let our dog do what they like to do. then it will be very limited for me, pacco will only want to eat, sleep, eat, sleep and go jungle trekking.Cool

to make your dog enjoy training, you need to provide motivation, which in your case, is the food. maybe u can even try toy. show him the toy, ask him to jump, and then toss it for him to chase.

if scotch is eating boring dog food everyday. when u bring out a sausage and ask him to jump. I bet he will loves jumping. cause he knows that jumping means sausage!

but it will be a good option if u train him a variety of work, instead of jumping everyday. otherwise he might find it boring eventually.

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(This post was edited by Amanda85 on May 12, 2008, 6:54 PM)


Scotch
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May 13, 2008, 6:52 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
haha, good answer. I'm doing double jumping now. The pole at the same height and a broom lower than that between two chairs. I used sausage. He loved it. he jumped everytime. Even when he ate up all the sausage, I asked him to jump and he still jumped. Smile


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 14, 2008, 4:50 AM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
well done, u had successfully taught scotch how to jump!

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Scotch
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May 14, 2008, 3:59 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Not really, though. The next day, he won't jump at first and he'll start whining. Only after a few seconds will he jump.Crazy


acsyen
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May 14, 2008, 4:01 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
build his confidence slowly.. one day only le that he does it without food. Repeat this everyday after a week i think he should have mastered it.

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Amanda85
Doggyman


May 15, 2008, 8:03 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
i think he's just not being confident enough. more practise will get the job done. remember to give big praise to your dog. make him feel like a champion.

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Scotch
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May 20, 2008, 10:07 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
Now, he won't start whining before the jumps, he will straight jump. And I'm also practising without food. When i asked him to jump without treats, he jumped everytime. But I didn't say too many times in case he gets bored and stops jumping. And I think it should be ok with his leg, because he's never hit the pole before. But there was once he was too near the pole and his front legs got knocked a bit. Now I make sure I start from far away. I remember to praise him everytime he jumps without treats. Smile


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 20, 2008, 10:19 AM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
i'm not quite sure about scotch condition, but we want the best for our dogs. best to keep eveything low just to let him get the idea of leaping and enjoy the fun. u could spread out 2 or 3 jumps and getting him to turn around.

apart from that u could also try the hula hoop jump or setting up some weave poles.

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Scotch
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May 21, 2008, 5:14 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
The jumps are now below knee-length. I put two poles. Sometimes he'll go crazy and start jumping on his own and turning around and jumping again. But I stop him cause I don't want him to do it so many times like that. So now, sometimes even without food, he will willingly jump. Then I'll make him turn around and jump again. I usually do this, the most, 3 times. Oh and I checked with the vet and he said since Scotch doesn't have a broken leg(only half broken)then it should be ok. And he also said if he can jump, why not. But it's best not to force him to jump higher than he's willing to. And the height that he is willing to jump with or without food is 16 inches. But I'll keep it lower than that at the moment.


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 21, 2008, 5:49 PM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
did u keep the poles away when u are not training? is best not to let him jump on his own free time. he shld learn associate that jumping need 2 be done with the owner

as for the turning, u can try placing 2 poles side by side about few feet away. with u standing in d middle of both poles, try use your hand get him to turn 180 degree...

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Scotch
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May 22, 2008, 6:54 PM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
I did the 180 degree turn and he did it perfectly fine. And just for kicks, I raise the pole to 22 inches and he jumped! I used sausage. He didn't whine, he just jumped and he didn't go under the pole. I'm so proud of him :)


Scotch
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May 29, 2008, 8:15 AM


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Re: [Amanda85] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
how do you make weave poles?


Amanda85
Doggyman


May 29, 2008, 8:21 AM


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Re: [Scotch] Ups and Downs of Agility Trial
i used PVC pipe. u can take a look at the website below. is something similar to that.

www.agilitynet.com/training/weaverecipe.html

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