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npk Dog Kichi Jun 29, 2005, 5:14 AM Views: 3356 What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. I am looking to adopt a dog. If there are photos of the dogs and cats at Paws up for adoption are posted here, it will help. I am sure many who are looking for a dog/cat would like to know what to expect before going over to Paws. Therefore, a constantly updated list of dog/cats(with photos) is available, it will help to increase the adoption rate of Paws. This is just my opinion and hope others can throw in some ideas to help PAWS. NPK

einochan Enthusiast Jun 29, 2005, 7:55 AM Views: 3348 Re: [npk] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hie there npk well, i think u can go to PAWS and see for yourself the puppies and adult doggies they have there. hmm..u have to interact with the furkids to know what sort of dog u want. think post photos not so effective..must go see for yourself if u have free time, do go help out there also..those furkids need some human companionship My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

npk Dog Kichi Jun 29, 2005, 8:19 AM Views: 3338 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. einochan, I agree with what you are saying but sometimes, some many like to know if there is a breed/color/sex that they are looking for. A constantly updated list(with photos) will help them to decide if they should take a drive over to Paws to take a closer look at the dog that they are looking for. I am aware that the potential owner must spend sometime with the dog before making a decision. I am going over to Paws to see if I can find a Labrador. I saw SPCA website and there is a female beige lab that caught my eyes. I will go over there too after PAWS. You see, PAWS need to have more people coming forward to adopt the furkids. For instance, you are sitting at home, say 1hr drive from Paws. You want to adopt a Beagle/Male/below 2years old. What do you do? Drive 1 hr to Paws and find out that they don't any? A list will lure the potential owners to come over to Paws. He/ she may end up adopting a GSD that is so attached to him/her during the visit. Do something to make these people come over to Paws. NPK

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jun 29, 2005, 9:02 AM Views: 3333 Re: [npk] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. npk you have a potential idea in mind, the next step is take action? well PAWS has their own website, but i think they might not be free to post at every forums such as puppy.com, so they need volunteers to go & snap photos then post here. glad there are ppl like you who stil concern & contribute ideas. anyway during the time when we doing rescue, my humble opinion is the principal of a shelter is important too. if a shelter holds a strong & good principal, ppl will preffer to help the shelter. personally i really hope there is a shelter where dogs wont being put to sleep... ... Yang Regards, Yang

einochan Enthusiast Jun 30, 2005, 1:30 AM Views: 3299 Re: [npk] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. npk.. i get your point will try to take more photos next time i go there. cheers My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jun 30, 2005, 4:16 AM Views: 3285 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. einochan wow, you are the 1st to take action, congrats! give you a prize, hehe.. Yang Regards, Yang

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Jul 1, 2005, 6:18 PM Views: 3249 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hi ... If you would like to help with increasing rate of adoption at PAWS ... by taking and posting pixs of the puppies ... The next time you are at PAWS, speak to the Shelter Manager, and he will give you a hand. PAWS is fixing the website right now ~ doing a redesign and update ... will probably be ready sometime soon. Ask the Manager if you can contribute your pixs to the website ... Just a thought ~ getting pixs up is not so difficult. Keeping the pixs updated & current takes a lot of work. But glad you are prepared to give it a go. Cheers

papadog Novice Jul 7, 2005, 6:34 AM Views: 3203 Re: [npk] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Is it a Malaysian thing? A pedigree...everyone wants one...they go to shelters on the off chance they might find one...a lab, a rotty, a beagle but ask them to adopt a stray? Well...that would not be the done thing would it? After all can't brag about that. To all those people who have adopted a non pedigree from a shelter and love them to bits. I salute you!

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 7, 2005, 7:08 AM Views: 3200 Re: [surchinmy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. surchinmy do u always at PAWS? Yang Regards, Yang

nicky_spykeaz Doggyman Jul 7, 2005, 11:18 PM Views: 3181 Re: [einochan & leecy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Are you going to PAWS anytime next week?? I probably will go there to snap some picture...want to come along...want ppl to teman lor... Cheers ya, Nicki the Devil live by the reputation of the name boBby is a craz3 car PassaNger Fat FaT other case Elegant Car GuEst What make Me? A LoYal huMan Driver.... NoBody is Prefect, Guess What i am Nobody Nice to meet YOu (Bobby+Nicky craze JT memBer) BoBby San DogstEr http://www.dogster.com/?158414 http://spykeaz-devil.blogspot.com/

einochan Enthusiast Jul 8, 2005, 9:24 PM Views: 3158 Re: [nicky_spykeaz] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hello Nicky! well, i think i'll be going tomorrow (saturday) because my aunt is considering adopting a furkid it will be her first time caring for a dog and so i'll be helping her if she decides she'll go for it. what day are u planning to go next week? let me know time and day then maybe i'll be there to meet u My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 8, 2005, 9:46 PM Views: 3156 Re: [nicky_spykeaz] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. nicky im currently at penang wo.. Yang Regards, Yang

surchinmy Ultra ALPHA Jul 14, 2005, 2:47 AM Views: 3097 Re: [leecy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Ah .. no not always ... sometimes ... Cheers

Shinya Member Jul 18, 2005, 5:54 AM Views: 3051 Re: [nicky_spykeaz] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hi! I would like to share some of my exprience here~ Last month I went to PAWS with my friend, we thought to snap some picture to post it up to the forum, before we taking the action, we thought to inform them what are we doing before we do... So I went in to the office and talk to them, i guess one of them is the manager, sitting at the table and discusss with me~ He said I cannot take any picture of the dogs there, coz some of them is not ready to put of for adoption, so i reply hm that I wil only take pictures that the dogs are ready for adoption, then he said if we are really doing our job, maybe we can write some information to the forum, and telling them what breed/sex/colour they have there... But I guess everyone from out station, won't you want them to come to Subang for look at the dogs or pups and don't even know is there any dog or pup that they are looking for~ Then he explain with me that he really want to coparate with us, said that they facing some problem, and need to solve it before all this job could done... So he ask me to leave my contact number to him, and when they are ready they will give us a call, I just don't understand why until today I stil not yet a call from them~ ________________________________________________________________________ Come visit my online pet boutique lolipet.blogspot.com and join our fans page at www.facebook.com/Lolipet

einochan Enthusiast Jul 18, 2005, 6:22 PM Views: 3042 Re: [Shinya] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hieya there i guess u might have spoken to edward, the big guy behind the counter. he's a really nice fella, very helpful. maybe they've been busy. u can always drop by when u are free to check and see if thet are ready to be photographed. when u plan to go, u can let me know, maybe i'll come by to help. take care, cheers My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

cOsmiC Novice Jul 19, 2005, 12:00 AM Views: 3030 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hi Einochan I went to PAWS a couple of weeks ago with a friend, to enquire whether we can put 8 stray pups there for adoption. You see, we came across 2 litters of pups at our office compound and have been finding homes for them. Believe me, we have tried so hard - putting up posters @ supermarkets and vets etc. Our efforts have been futile. The management of our office compound started hinting that the pups shouldnt stay here much longer; which is why my friend and I ended up at PAWS. We had a look around and spoke to Edward, the manager. You mentioned that he is a nice chap, but I beg to differ. We introduced ourselves (politely, mind you) but Edward's replies did not reflect a hint of politeness. He told us loudly and bluntly that we will lose all our rights to these pups once we surrender them to PAWS. We were ok about that BUT when I asked him if there is a timeframe for the pups being there, meaning if they'll be put to sleep should nobody wants them; Edward replied "Yes, I will cook them in my curry". Can you imagine an animal shelter manager joking about something like that? C'mon. take your job more seriously! As he said that, he just looked around the room at the volunteers (girl guides from a secondary school), as if he just made the joke of the century. My friend and I thought that Edward had been working at PAWS for a long time, hence "hardened" by reality... but he proudly said that he's only been there for 3 weeks. can you believe that? What a shocker. Anyways, we have yet to find homes for all of the pups - there are 6 left up for adoption. Pls pass the word around. I've got photos of them. After much hoo-hah, they're currently housed at a children's orphange in Taman Seputeh. Again, I can't keep them there for very much longer. cOsmiC*

einochan Enthusiast Jul 19, 2005, 12:45 AM Views: 3026 Re: [cOsmiC] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hie there cosmic hmm, it shocks me that he can be so insensitive. well, the times i've been there, he seemed nice. i wonder why he was acting this way. yes, he is new there and just took over the place recently. maybe he was trying to appear funny to the kids or something. but i do not think there is a time frame for euthanasia of pups. they only put sick and diseased dogs down. puppies are rather quicky adopted i reckon. could u pls send me the photos of the available pups? or maybe u can post it here. that way we all get to see them. pls dont let anyone deter u, if u have the time, do come and help out at PAWS. regards, EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06 (This post was edited by Admin on Jul 19, 2005, 9:49 AM)

cOsmiC Novice Jul 19, 2005, 2:29 AM Views: 3019 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hi Einochan! Thanks for the kind words. Yeah I can't believe Edward's attitude. I wouldn't mind helping out at PAWS but I certainly don't want to see his face again or even give him the time of my day. I've forwarded a compilation of the puppy pics to you, as I have yet to read the guidelines for putting up adoption post on the forum. Would appreciate it if you could help me out. Check out the details of the pups in your email :) On top of looking for homes for these 6 pups, i found ANOTHER pup by the drain near my house and I am caring for it right now. Been going house to house looking for its owner but it's starting to dawn on me that someone might've just chucked her out. She was frightened and lacked confidence... She's better now, judging by the mischief she gets up to. Unfortunately I can't keep her as I already have a dog (the mongrel with the world's best fur...hehehe..). Cheers! cOsmiC *

einochan Enthusiast Jul 19, 2005, 7:28 AM Views: 3015 Re: [cOsmiC] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hie there! aww, i'm sure there's room for one more pup! i have 4! i used to have 5, but one of my precious furkids died accidently in april. my entire family was heartbroken for a while. where are u staying? are u staying alone? or with family? hmm..i'll take a look at the pics ASAP and try to post them up in the adoption forum. will let u know when i do! cheers! EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 19, 2005, 7:38 AM Views: 3010 Re: [surchinmy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. In Reply To Ah .. no not always ... sometimes ... Cheers at least u got the heart Yang Regards, Yang

minglmy Puppycom Veteran Jul 19, 2005, 5:57 PM Views: 2994 Re: [cOsmiC] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. HI Cosmic, Just my point of view... not to defend or anything but ... just what cross my mind ok. I have been to PAWS also SPCA have seen through 3 shelter manager change in PAWS personally met them n talked to them. In my opinion, i wud rather have a shelter manager who CAN make a light joke at times rather than have a sour face fella (like what I got from SPCA) who doesnt even wants to bother answer my question or even look at me for any time of the day given. His joke might not be appropriate but pls think on shelter manager role too. Seeing animals comes in day in day out....being mishandled by those MPXX fella, put to sleep either puppies or older dogs, managing the whole compound with all the mess left from previous managers, handle numerous calls,enquiries from the public, manage the people in there, food, donations and etc is not easy job. Pls note also PAWS does not have sufficient manpower at the moment in time so everything falls into the shelter manager's shoulder. I think the hardest role for the shelter manager would be seeing dogs in their hands being put to sleep. The last manager, she ended up being depress most of the time due to the pressure of seeing the dogs being put down time and again and left. If as a shelter manager you dont put yourself in an aloof kinda way then what we the public will be seeing is a depress person or a person who have sour face day in day out. He might have lots of pressure on the day you went over and need some light joke to soften his day. PAWS does not simply put down any dogs/puppies only those who is infected with deadly virus and sickly pups... otherwise they too will try to save as many possible. FYI, he is a loud and blunt person so thats his personality. Working there long or short term even for 3 days you will be hardened by the sight you seen. Try being there yourself 1 whole day ... i think then you will get what i mean. Please do give edward the benefits of doubt on his actions too ya. Anyway, good job ur doing there ok.... try posting your adoption post in the forum here and who knows .... soon all of them will be able to find good homes Good luck to you kind hearted soul ! cheers, minglmy

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 19, 2005, 8:11 PM Views: 2983 Re: [minglmy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. minglmy if im not mistaken supposingly they have to kill those healthy ones too, through my experience i realise that the adoption rate there is far more lower than surrendering, thus sadly those healthy ones & even pups also have to be killed. for those dog lovers who really wish to safe lifes, i will say this is wat pressure & sadden them most, & if the manager is this type of person , it is understandable he act like that to cosmic. In deed, i do hope he act like that towards all the ppl who wish to surrender their animals, so that they know it is not a good thing to do or at least discourage them. I really hope there will be a shelter who practices no kills, I do tried hard last time, but it is not easy. when u able to solve the problems, other problems sets in. & sadly, all caused by humans but victims are the pity animals. Yang Regards, Yang

cane_pazzeco Dog Kichi Jul 19, 2005, 9:27 PM Views: 2980 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. solly for interuption- this my humble opinion "To give without any reward, or any notice, has a special quality of its own." Author:Anne Morrow Lindbergh "Love has nothing to do with what you are expecting to get � only what you are expecting to give." Author:Katherine Hepburn "Waste no more time talking about great souls and how they should be. Become one yourself!" Author:Marcus Aurelius I go to PAWS to help the animals . Who cares how people treat me. Focus is on the animals not how human treat me lah.

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 19, 2005, 9:37 PM Views: 2974 Re: [cane_pazzeco] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. cane_pazzeco true, very true. even last time maha them always look at us like aliens but we juz ignore them lah, let the animals there eat good good food. Yang Regards, Yang

einochan Enthusiast Jul 20, 2005, 8:46 PM Views: 2935 Re: [cane_pazzeco] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hie there! yea, true. keep up the positive attitude EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

einochan Enthusiast Jul 20, 2005, 9:09 PM Views: 1591 Re: [cOsmiC] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hieya cosmic, i've posted the puppy adoption at the adoption forum, pls go and check it out. sorry had to edit the pic u sent me cos it exceeded the attachment limit. take care ok? cheers EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 21, 2005, 10:19 PM Views: 1538 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. einochan wow, the posting is very nice! next time must ask u to help me to post adoption thingy if u dont mind, hehe.. Yang Regards, Yang

einochan Enthusiast Jul 22, 2005, 10:15 PM Views: 1501 Re: [leecy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hieya leecy the puppy poster was done by cOsmiC! LOL..u'll have to ask him to help u..hehe..but looks like not many people interested in the pups sigh..i hope they find homes la. its so sad to see such cuties straying about. cheers EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

finnstar Novice Jul 23, 2005, 6:35 AM Views: 1474 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hey people! i went to paws today to volunteer for the next couple of weeks.. ill be there next on monday, about 10 in the morning to around 3pm... will any of you be there? it'd be more fun to work wif more people.. i spent an hour there alone walking and petting this huge german shepherd! scary stuff specially with the other loose dogs always appearing like their goin to attack us when im walking past. :s plus when i was ready to leave, i was walking out the same way and the same pack of dogs ran up to me and started snarling like i was the end of the world.. yeesh.. freaked me out.. but that aint stoppin' me.. ill be there *early* *cough* around 10am hehe.. would love it if some more peeps could come too.. hehe

einochan Enthusiast Jul 23, 2005, 7:40 AM Views: 1465 Re: [finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hi there finnstar! its nice of u to be volunteering! keep up the good work! i just started my final semester in uni so i'll be busy..can't come! maybe i'll drop by when i'm free..the last time i was there i spent more than 4 hours there.. anyways, the doggies mean u no harm la...they just want affection anyways, let us know how it goes ok? take care EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 23, 2005, 8:54 AM Views: 1463 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. einochan i really dont wish to admit it but the fact is the chance of adoption for mongrels are very low. there must be a TRUE & SINCERE organisation who really willing to solve the stray problems. by individual's strenghth u cant move much. but i feel glad there are still ppl out there who really cares, AT LEAST they help this one. I always tell myself too. Yang Regards, Yang

finnstar Novice Jul 23, 2005, 9:03 AM Views: 1463 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. yup, sure will. im allergic to dog fur.. :( but ill still come and help out with whatever i can.. planning to do paperwork.. write lotsa letters requesting sponsorship etc etc. ive got plans which could help to bring more volunteers, but they have ot be dedicated to the cause. god bless the dogs.

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 23, 2005, 9:34 AM Views: 1458 Re: [finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. finnstar glad to know ppl like u here, mind to tell wat is the structure of ur plan? Yang Regards, Yang

finnstar Novice Jul 23, 2005, 10:23 AM Views: 1457 Re: [leecy] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. leecy well im getting myself up to date with the big happenings since last april witht he new committe and all. i hope there are gonna be changed for the good. my plans. in high school, i was the vice pres. of my interact club, there I organised many campaigns and accumulated a few contacts of those 'richer' charity organisations,. ie Rotary, Lions etc etc.. i think we should approach them for help. after all they are the big tycoons and if we can convince then, only the pups will benifit! all my plans are purely financial, sponsorship kinda stuff. i think (and im really serious) that we should send out letters (not email) actual letters to school, colleges, universitys inviting them to send WILLING volunteers from their interact clubs or leo clubs. i just graduated from sunway uni college. and during my time there, i led my team of just a few 9-10 ppl all the way to ampang SPCA and spent the entire saturday there. this was part of our moral studies project. actually all the other groups were planning on going to orphanages etc but even the orphanages turned down their visits. but we could really use the help of young college students like these. so if we invite these colleges to consider these sort of outings when planing moral studies or other outings, the workload would be decreased. but only slightly. notice all these donations are short term. they wont last for long. but if we can approach big big companies like Intel in cyberjaya, or other giant companies which hire mostly non-muslims cuz of the (no touching dog issue) they could send annual financial support and benifit from tax exemption! if each multimillion dollar company sends a mere 2.5k a year, 10 such companies will get 25 thousand RM 25 000 ringgit for us to spend on the animals!! im not sure if im being realistic, to me this plan can work. it all depends on which bigshots read our letters, who responds, how we phrase our letters. and the pleas we make to the press to help us advertise. i would welcome anyone who's willing to help me do this! loL the funniest part is that im not even an spca/paws member :) but ill register on monday when i start volunteering.. so whatdya guys think? can we make it work? (This post was edited by finnstar on Jul 23, 2005, 10:26 AM)

einochan Enthusiast Jul 26, 2005, 6:48 AM Views: 1434 Re: [finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hie there wow! u have a vision! u graduated from Sunway Uni Col? i'm in Monash. Currently in final year of my Double Degree in Science. U have a really good plan there. If u need help, let me know. wanna help out if i can. are u working now or just bumming? cheers EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

finnstar Novice Jul 26, 2005, 7:07 AM Views: 1432 Re: [einochan] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hey! yup, just finished my alevels there last june.. bumming around for a while, part time baking course.. :) ill be goin to uni in nottingham later this year's midseptember to study food science.. the prob is that somewhere in 2nd week of august, ill be goin away till early september.. so i wont be able to help as much as id like to. if youre interested, we could meet in (sunway) college.. you could update me on whats goin on wif the PAWS committee then we can plan it together.. sounds good?

einochan Enthusiast Jul 27, 2005, 2:43 AM Views: 1413 :) hie there finn wow! baking! sounds interesting. food science sounds good. 3 year course? means u must be still very young! yea, we could meet up in sunway no problems. but u must let me know what days cos my new timetable is a little wacky maybe we could go to PAWS together after meeting up ! do u drive? EINO My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

finnstar Novice Jul 27, 2005, 9:33 AM Views: 1401 Re: [einochan] :) einochan! i have a license but you know how overprotective parents can get, mine still havent grown out of that shell just yet. and my Fd Science course is four year with the third year in a job placement. k im rarely seen in college, still in the editorial board though, why dont you add me on msn, ill pm you my address then we can discuss from there.. im kinda free eveyrday, all my going-outs are random but last the whole day. so just set a time better around 11am so there's room for a medan lunch.. havent been there for some time. ill tell you more about the plans i have then. its quite a vision, but im optimistic about this cuz its a long term project.

leecy Ultra ALPHA Jul 27, 2005, 7:58 PM Views: 1392 Re: [finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. finnstar so glad that there is such a person who sit down & really think for the animals. well frankly speaking, from my knowledge, certain animal shelters do receive suffiecient or should i say more donations than their expenses. this lead to corruptions rather than helping the animals. of corse shelters will give u lots of reasons y they "constantly" need donations, but my concern is: is it true donations is the most important thing for an animal shelter? well u should ask the shelter, how they going to spend the money. if the shelter going to spend the money to put the dogs to sleep, will u still interested to find donations for them? if the shelters receive lots of donations but didnt use the money to spend on the animals, will this help? my humble opinion is, the most important thing that we should concern of is the adoption rate of a shelter. most of the animals at the shelters, I mean MOST will being put to sleep due to limited space. thus, if donation is the main focus, ppl will tend to donate money to kill. well a shelter will always tell u they dont have choice, they need to kill in order to accept more abandoned. but the fact is they need to kill in order to kill more if the adoption rate is still so low. They can kill all the strays & abandoned in 1 moment, but the fact is as long as there is irresponsible owner, there will be anotehr animal end up being sent to animal shelter the next moment. it is sad most animal shelters nowadays seems encouraging ppl to dump dogs at their shelter. they might say it is better than the dogs being stray, but this will lead to endless killings since the public are not well informed or educated abt their responsibility. they are thought to be irresponsible instead. since u r a student, r u planning to start a group to rescue the strays with other youngsters? it is good if u able to educaet public since young. & through ur great relationship with those big organisations, suppose u can get good funding to rescue, not fund those who kills or put the donations through animal's bloods into their own pockets. by the way, be aware of ppl who seems good beside u, they might be very bad. doing charity seems great, but u will realise it doesnt mean so when u really get involve. cheers & take care. i will always support TRUE animal rescuers. u too if u r. Yang Regards, Yang

cane_pazzeco Dog Kichi Jul 27, 2005, 11:01 PM Views: 1383 Re: [finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Hai Filmstar, This my humble opinion. Killing of course is bad. But think of the consequences of no killing. Wont ithe situation become worse? I squad down and cry when they told me how many body bags they required each month because I wanted to donate this item to them. But we have to face reality with a sorrowful heart. Does no killing policy help? By the way PAWs constitution does not say it practise no killing.We need to respect that.. In USA, I supposed there are so many no killing animal shelters. But most do not have space for one more animal.Very easy to figure out why. This will bring us back to square one. So is my humble opinion that you continue to help the animals with your project. Any plan for the benefit of the animals should be well encouraged and not put you in doubt.. My humble opinion - there is no right or wrong for both camps of opinion. Lastly just some people are dishonest with money , it does not mean everybody is the same. We still have many good people out there and everywhere. sign - pazzeco

alfa Novice Jul 31, 2005, 1:05 AM Views: 1303 Re: [cane_pazzeco & finnstar] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Dear cane_pazzeco & finnstar Every dog lover's heart weep for those kids that have to be put to sleep. That is why all of us are encouraged to quickly help in all ways : foster,adoption,pass the word around promote the animal shelters, direct people to go there to adopt and last but not least spay the female dogs/cats. You can help also by promoting kembiri: the spaying center at KL. What we do seems to be small, but remember it is the small things that counts also. I believe all animal shelters have done to their best and maximum and they also need our help in any kind also. I also often times weep silently and wished i had a million and million dollars to help but the most importan is to go in line with the call of the animal shelters : adopt and spay. Alfa

Liz Tay Dog Kichi Jul 31, 2005, 8:19 PM Views: 1283 Re: [alfa] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. SPOT ON, ALFA! Of all the things ever written in this forum that hits the nail on the head. · Neuter your own animals and encourage others to do the same. · Reduce the unwanted litters. · Improve our care and appreciation of animals. · Encourage people to adopt from shelters instead of buying from petshops. · Support local shelters, private rescue groups and affordable neutering programmes. Every animal neutered brings us a step closer to reducing the demand on shelters in this country. And every animal adopted from a shelter makes an extra space for another animal in need - less overload, less need for euthanasia ("put to sleep") and an extra life that can be saved. Not to mention that every animal needs a loving home - it's no great favour to sentence a social animal to life in a shelter… Let’s reduce the need and get those animals out! Thanks for your posting Alfa. Spread the word! Liz (This post was edited by Liz Tay on Jul 31, 2005, 8:21 PM)

einochan Enthusiast Aug 1, 2005, 7:14 AM Views: 1265 Re: [alfa] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. hie alfa yea, i agree, small things DO matter. sometimes we have to start small, then move towards bigger ambitions. My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

alfa Novice Aug 2, 2005, 10:07 AM Views: 1237 Re: [Liz Tay ] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Dear Liz Precisely! You have spelled out the simple steps and I am sure the message is clear to all those that will rally to help PAWS or any other animal shelter. May many more animal lovers combine all the resources, connections, that one has inorder to help to increase the adoption and do all that is necessary . Of course ideally, none of us want to see any ethunasia and that calls for us to expedite the call to reduce strays and litters. I will print your post and send to many more people out there. Thank you for your postings and answers too. Alfa

alfa Novice Aug 2, 2005, 10:11 AM Views: 1236 Re: [einochan & cane] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Dear Einochan and Cane Be Ye Faithful in small things and you will be given BIG things. I have heard this saying, so want to encourage you as I encourage myself. alfa

Ich_liebe_Puppy Enthusiast Aug 3, 2005, 2:05 AM Views: 1198 Re: [alfa] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. Alfa I like your spirit. Let it be contagious all round about this forum. I heard somebody says if you point a figure at someone and accused him or her for not being a true animal resquer , halt and look at your figure- three fingure are pointing at your goodself. Hahaha caught you spot on or rather on the spot. "Do your little bit of good where you are; it's those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world." Author:Archbishop Desmond Tutu

einochan Enthusiast Aug 3, 2005, 5:58 PM Views: 1167 Re: [alfa] What I think that can improve/increase adoption at PAWS. My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

Amanda85 Doggyman Aug 5, 2005, 8:23 PM Views: 1131 Re: [finnstar] :) hey there... u r sunway student? too bad since u had graduated.. i'm monash student.. joining the leo club too.. hope that they will be volunteering at PAWS soon, Pacco de Mongrel ~ Come and join us for a doggie jungle trekking @ Bukit Gasing every Saturday morning ~

einochan Enthusiast Aug 9, 2005, 1:44 AM Views: 1064 Re: [Amanda85] :) u are in monash?!??!?! in which year doing which course? u brought pacco on saturday for JT right? My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06

Amanda85 Doggyman Aug 9, 2005, 5:29 PM Views: 1042 Re: [einochan] :) ya... u monash also...? i'm sem 2 year 1 onli... doing medical bioscience. yupe, i'm d one with pacco the blackie.... n i said that ur mum looks so young.. Pacco de Mongrel ~ Come and join us for a doggie jungle trekking @ Bukit Gasing every Saturday morning ~ (This post was edited by Amanda85 on Aug 9, 2005, 5:30 PM)

einochan Enthusiast Aug 12, 2005, 6:03 AM Views: 540 Re: [Amanda85] :) hehe..so u're a freshie in monash!! i'm in my final sem of my double degree of medical bioscience and biotechnology. i've finished medbio already how's your subjects ah? tough? My dogs own me - Hunter, Sandie, Duchess and Boy. Sadly missed - Toffee (13/3/00 - 24/4/05) Sadly missed - Duchess Nov '98 - 1 Nov '06