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ngkl
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May 3, 2005, 8:17 PM

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Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi all, I assumed that all of us that love our K9, have read the news about Shah Alam council have banned some of the breed at their area. I think MKA should do something about it. Otherwise some other district will try to follow and I don't want my dog will be put to sleep for nothing or given to someone who doesn't love them at all.

This MBSA have gone beyond their capabilities. They should consult people in MKA rather than only talking with their own race. They cannot simply create certain rules to suit their own kind.

Pls! sign here to show your support.

Ng Kim Loon

Toy
K9 Maniac

May 5, 2005, 3:05 AM

Views: 4942

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I will support for the sake of dogs.

jooann
Enthusiast

May 6, 2005, 12:42 AM

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I do not support the ban! Mad

Joo Ann N Sushi

carmensuki
Novice

May 11, 2005, 9:44 AM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

never never ever agree with the ban system! gosh! i cant live without my dogs!!!!!!!!!!
~* NoVa & BamBam*~ <----My BabiEs

Raphael
Dog Kichi

May 16, 2005, 12:32 AM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

what breeds did they ban?everyone should understand that the rest of breeds will follow,you say not my problem,untill your turn comes,and no one will stand for you,,why?because no one left,,all banned already by then

you wasting your time waiting for MKA,,there is no $$$$$$$$$$$$ involved,,so no intrest for them

if you really concerned,find out who's hand the disicion in,,who can change this nonesence,,get thier adress,post here,,we all write REQUESTING and BEGGING them to reconsider
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ngkl
Novice

May 18, 2005, 9:29 PM

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Re: [Raphael] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

hie,

Try to write to ms.Nata... she is creating this petition for us to sign n send them back to MBSA. her email is nata4rotty@yahoo.com.

This MBSA banned 8 breeds of dog.. 1st one is the Rottweiller.,...others i couldn't remember their breed name... i think some are american bulldog, pit bull, napolean mastiff, ..sorry.. can't actually get all their name.

PSY
K9 Kaki

May 19, 2005, 3:23 AM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Thanks will look into the petition. As for breeds, I am only interested in the Rotties others I do agree should be ban as I have seen them when I was in Europe and they can be a handful.

ngkl
Novice

May 21, 2005, 5:49 PM

Views: 4728

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

yes. do help out... they need 50K names and signatures.

let's work hard together to support them.

PSY
K9 Kaki

May 21, 2005, 10:07 PM

Views: 4720

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi,

Thanks for acknowledging my reply. I think the lady's name is Natasha Chien. I have drop her and e-mail but no reply yet. I shall follow up on it over the holliday.

Cheerio for now.

Kevin Chuan
ALPHA

Jun 7, 2005, 11:51 PM

Views: 4668

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Shah Alam Council Banned: Rotty, Neopolitan Mastiff, American Bulldog, American Pit bull terrier, Filla, Akita, Tosa Inu, Dogo Argentino

They know nuts about dogs... these are fine breeds and if the banned them by according to the fierce look of them... so what about;

Presa, Caucasian Shepherd, Tibetan Mastiff, Dogue De Bordaux and etc...? There are no bad dogs only bad owner, I should say...

FXXX!!!!! Malaysia Boleh

vinkuan
Enthusiast

Jun 8, 2005, 2:34 AM

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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

In Reply To

Hey, Kevin... you stay in Shah Alam?? Crazy

Seems like you hate that rules so much.... Blush

Anyway... I don't support it as well. Do think that it's stupid idea to banned those breed. And totally no idea why they want to ban American Bulldog. I guess they will try to apply this to entire malaysia (just the matter of time -- if no one stand up and say anything). Pirate

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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA

Jun 8, 2005, 7:15 AM

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Re: [vinkuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hey Vinkuan,

I'm from Penang... I disagree with this rules because once it is started and it may continue applicable to other states... As far as I understand (by refering to the website of Kementerian Haiwan Malaysia) besides these new banned list, the do have an existing list and breed under the old list are Bull terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Staffordshire Bull Terrier (this is just a small to medium size dog) I don't see what is the reason they banned it????? And further more they are also fine breeds. They do have an restrickted breed like Rotty (now banned in Shah Alam already), Dobberman, Bull Mastiff and few more breed. And the old list is actually applicable to all states in M'sia.

I have one AST, and will try to get another 1 or 2 more in the near future. AST is also in the list, I'm sure that those guys do not understanding dogs much maybe not at all. It depends on how you train your dogs... and those guys just simply banned these breed maybe according to their look. I read the article, and they do mentioned that these breed bark very often and lough and this will disturb the neighbourhood at night. FUNNY!!! Do you think the dogs will bark to the air??? Starys dogs, cats, strangers or maybe vehicles they are barking at, a barking dog is a good guard dog. Further more I don't think that these breeds will bark more than breeds from hound group. Don't you think so?

Those who proposed this list are sucker, seconder are FXXKer, the one who approved are mother FXXker. What to do? Malaysia Boleh!!!!

ngkl
Novice

Jun 8, 2005, 4:34 PM

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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

hie everyone, try to cool down a bit. I think this bunch of F or S people from the council still need approval from the parliment. So guys, be cool. While waiting for the approval, we mustn't stop doing nothing. We still need everyone support to sign the petition. The more the merrier. Shows to them that they can't simply impose rules on their owns.

They are a lot of dogs lover here in Malaysia.

JoeSmith
K9 Maniac

Jun 8, 2005, 7:49 PM

Views: 4632

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi, just try to get an update. How is it going? Any petition handed over?

Personally, I have no clue about the reasons to ban a dog. However, I would support it the other way around. Some dog owners should not be allowed to have a dog. Not based on race, culture, breed or color but based on lack of responsibility, love & care.

PSY
K9 Kaki

Jun 9, 2005, 6:29 AM

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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi Kevin,

I can see your point, but I do however agree with the ban on these breeds (not Rotties) simply because a lot of people out there not like you can handle and look after these dogs. Imagine if something happen again with these other breeds all hell will break loose .... again. I have read a lot of opinions given but till today I have not read anything concerning training owners and dogs. I do not profess to be an expert but I know for a fact that my Dob and Weimer listen to me 100% but for the rest of my family they tend to challenge them alittle whereby they have to raise their voice to get things done. In most cases for me a hand signal will get what I want so how are we going to have a well train dog whereby you the alpha so call dog is not around. On the other hand I have a Dane too, that useless girl, everyone is her alpha dog and she is the oldest in the house. Hence, coming back to why I agree to ban some of these dogs is the alpha dog is not around so who is the leader.

My objective now is training my nephews to dominate them and trust me it is not easy as the dogs will response when I am nearby but if I am out of sight they would challenge them by simply doing things slowly or let me think about your sit command first attitude.

I again do hope I am wrong but I have a notion a good number of us buy a puppy because they are cute and not because I can handle this kind of dog. It is well known JRT, small yet a handful if one has not got that will that is stronger than it, I do applaude JRT owners who can walk their JRT at a good heel.

How do we decide as a community who should have these breed of dogs, I really do not know unless someone can come up with something concrete it is wiser to keep these breeds at bay.

Apologise if I step on some people toes.

Sydney
Doggyman

Jun 9, 2005, 7:09 AM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I support the dogs! Every dog shouldnt be put to sleep on purpose!!

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Sydn3y

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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA

Jun 9, 2005, 7:39 AM

Views: 4610

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

This MBSA have gone beyond their capabilities. They should consult people in MKA rather than only talking with their own race. They cannot simply create certain rules to suit their own kind.
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Hi PSY.... read the statement above... I agree with that. They don't like dogs, when ever there's a dog bites sure they will blame the dog... but I'm very sure most of us here have seen their children running and shouting in front of our gate and teasing our dog, and THEIR PARENTS DO NOTHING about their children behavior.

I'm a businessman, and I'm travel a lot all over in M'sia... have you guys been to Kelantan before? Do you notice that you can hardly see stray dogs in that state... do you know why?

I have personally seen something like this; An about 3 months old puppy (stray pup) were following a Malay child... it was just following him(not running after him) and this child walk by the coffee shop (Malay Coffee shop) where I was sitting in, and one of the customer sitting at the other table suddenly ran to the poor puppy with his HAMMER, and hit the puppy to death. OK, don't tell me that they don't know that was just a puppy, why must they do so? That was an animal behavior by killing a 3 months old puppy with an HAMMER somemore!!!!!

They are not well educated by the government (because the government are their own kind), and also brought up in a such family. I'm sure most of us will teach our children do not teas the animals, not like them... their parents just keep quite even they see something wrong (or maybe they don't know that was wrong). If the government can came out with anti dadah, anti estersy, anti-smooking or what so ever campain, why don't they teach the public especially their own kind not to teas the animal?

You have your point..., as you said those breeds might be hard to handle, but they may set a rules like those who wants to keep these breeds need to apply a special license, or maybe those who wants to keep this breeds, they are not allowed to keep more than certain number, maybe with a proper cage spacious enough for the dog, or even maybe they have to pay extra like our road tax. the larger breed you want to keep, the more you have to pay.

Ini ialah Malaysia, masyarakat berbilang kaum, keharmonian dan salin hormat menghormati adalah kerbangaan kita sebagai anak Malaysia. But I don't see any respectation when they set this rules.

Again, Malaysia Boleh apa pun boleh for their own kind. DON"T YOU THINK SO.

ngkl
Novice

Jun 9, 2005, 9:34 PM

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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Oh my god! If this thing happens in front of my eyes, I think I'll risk my life for the poor puppy. How could a human being did this? a thing in this world will serve their purpose, why human wanted to destroy them without any reasons?

Om Mani Padme Hum.

Kevin Chuan
ALPHA

Jun 9, 2005, 11:04 PM

Views: 4587

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hey Ng... I felt like want to stop him... but then I dare not. Know why? coz that is Kelantan, 95% their own kind... I might get beaten by them if I try to stop them.

Again Mereka Boleh! Depa Boleh! Kita ??? Diam saja BOLEH!!!

PSY
K9 Kaki

Jun 10, 2005, 4:39 AM

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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi Kevin,

I can appreciate the trauma witnessing that stupid act however my concern are about the dogs which everyone is but if you notice the reasons are full of complications. For me, I do not wish to see a dog any dog relocated, put down and bite anyone so if these dogs or breeds that are bred for a purpose originally may have to resort to their natural instinct due ignorant behaviour from ignorant people. Example the Rottie, if the Star did publish the whole story, the owner is to blame as far as I understand the dog was let out to do it's business and so on seeing a bunch of menacing kids that use to taunt it, it did the next best thing go for them. Now one dog, one owner, just like one stupid 'ignoramise' with the hammer. My concern are the other Rotties owners thinking they have a killer dog, my family trying to relocate them, I am concern with that and believe there were apparently a lot of phone calls to M.K.A. asking for assistance for relocation.

Now if we do not have these breeds the innocent do not need to be up rooted, that is how I see it. The "their people" "my people" do not apply as I do know a number so call supposed "no dogs" do have dogs so your views are pretty harsh. I do like your idea of special license for these so call"banned breeds" too but again tell me how many dog owners do take licenses for their dogs?

As for Shah Alam, well if there are enough people I am sure one can get him remove, my area did to our councillor when he propose to change our resident status area to a business status. He sort of disappeared after awhile.

As I have said nothing against the breeds concern, just the trauma of uprooting them due to one stupid owner.

ngkl
Novice

Jun 15, 2005, 5:41 PM

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Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I think they don't have the right to implement these nuisance rules. We shall see.

darenong
Enthusiast

Jun 15, 2005, 8:27 PM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

if all chinese can voice together .. they`ll be no other race which can be stronger, more efficient, more dedicated, more powerful than us ... i believe it so ....but the thing is ... we cant unite like the others can so .. why blame it on others when we ourselves cant make it happen ? if we were to act earlier by voicing up together .. non of this crap could have existed !

aniway i dont agree AT ALL on the banned ... they should just banned the owner .... cos its FAIR that way .... but then if they have the brains to it ... they might be owning one too lol .. the only race in the world that hates dog ~!!! offended ? i don give a them cos they simply don see things human way!

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JoeSmith
K9 Maniac

Jun 15, 2005, 8:35 PM

Views: 4538

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I agree with you. However, the Rottis were draught dogs in the past and are still considered (in their home country) as one of the best, easiest to train and very dependable family dogs.

Said that, I think that only experienced people should own this breed. Why? Any untrained dog, which was never socialized, could turn into a nuisance animal but any large breed dog might turn into a liability and into serious danger to the owner, his family and passers-by.

PSY
K9 Kaki

Jun 16, 2005, 1:27 AM

Views: 4529

Re: [darenong] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Dear darenong,

You must try your hardest not to bring race into this issue, it will not help and do you have any idea there also numerous indians who own a Rotties. just think about it. Beside all this, do you also know our freind whose Rottie maul that little boy just pleaded "Not Guilty" for negligence. For me there is no excuse, as the owner should make certain your compond is secure so since the dog manage to get out it is insecure hence you are guilty. Do not wish to know about kids taunting your dog as you may have read from various threads children always taunts dogs especially big dogs so one should take more care.

Personally there is no two way about it.

Please note I am not talking about banning but responsibility or accountable to the dog and society.

darenong
Enthusiast

Jun 16, 2005, 2:02 AM

Views: 4522

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

psy,

of course race is the issue here im talking abt unity otherwise there wont be such a thing happening .... furthermore its not only 1 race im talkin abt im talking in general plus its a fact ... i used to grow up living next to an indian family with great danes ... they r responsible owners ... generally i think more indian owners r more responsible than others ... especially big dogs ..... anihow if fact dont mean anything then right or wrong certainly wont mean anything .. ppl just do wat they please ... if the world can accept it why cant they ?! if they dont accept .. then why on earth should i accept their decision ? or watever they think ? goshhh ....
if unity means anything it certainly doesnt make much sense in the chinese ... lol
ok if i offended anyone .. pls just let it go .. cos just my thought .. not my intention :P

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PSY
K9 Kaki

Jun 16, 2005, 3:34 AM

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Re: [darenong] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Wow,

I think I have really step on your toes, do apologise, maybe my english as deteriated to a point that I do not understand what I have read and what was written. I really did not see "we chinese" actually mean"we dog owners/lovers". Issue of religion plays a main part here and it is rather difficult or should I saw a delicate subject to compromise.

Got to go, I shall be refraining from getting into this subject.

Good day to you.

darenong
Enthusiast

Jun 17, 2005, 3:09 AM

Views: 2057

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

hahaha dude be cool ... im sorry if i made u uneasy aniways i don even remembered much of what ive said and need to read back ... haha
aniways ... check out the website all

http://www.mka.org.my/E-mails.htm

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ngkl
Novice

Jun 17, 2005, 4:27 PM

Views: 2039

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

hi, just to let u all know, the person who had 3 dogs that harm the little kiddo at Puchong, being sentences to 6 months jailed and fined RM2K.

PSY
K9 Kaki

Jun 17, 2005, 8:07 PM

Views: 2030

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi,

Thanks for the infor. I saw in the papers already. Do agree with the sentence of 6 months but I feel the fine should be higher at least twice, why, because owners like you and booker (read your other thread) do not have to face problems like this anymore and yet the banning thing is still not settle. Do wish you all the best and for support you may need in terms of numbers drop me a line, you Rottie owners have it.

ngkl
Novice

Jun 20, 2005, 5:22 PM

Views: 1998

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I do really hope that Natalie will win this war so that we as the owner of Rottie will feel proud because we own them.

LONG LIFE THE ROTTWEILER

Kevin Chuan
ALPHA

Jun 20, 2005, 11:11 PM

Views: 1992

Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi... Natalie is in Ukraine now and she will only be back on August...

ngkl
Novice

Jun 21, 2005, 11:54 PM

Views: 1974

Re: [Kevin Chuan] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

haiyo yo yo.. who is taking care for the war plan now? is the mission still on?

jooann_koh
Dog Kichi

Jul 28, 2005, 9:28 AM

Views: 1939

Re: [jooann] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hey !! our names are 70% the same !!! I'm Joo Ann too...haha nice to meet u

APPK
Member

Aug 3, 2005, 8:23 AM

Views: 1893

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

HI EVERYONE,

HI,I AM EDDIE AND I OWNED UP TO 100 OVER AMERICAN PITBULL TERRIERS SINCE 1986 TILL NOW,JUST 2 YEARS AGO,I STILL HAVE 50 OVER DOGS WITH ME BUT NOW ONLY 6.WELL,THIS BREED IS ALREADY BANNED FROM IMPORTS MANY YEARS AGO,BECAUSE OF NEGATIVE PUBLICITY FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND NOT IN MALAYSIA.THERE WAS NEVER A SINGLE RECORDED INCIDENT OF PITBULL ATTACKS IN MALAYSIA,YET THIS BREED WAS BANNED.LUCKILY I AM NOT BANNED FROM EVEN KEEPING THEM,THAT'S THE GOOD PART.I DON'T AGREE ON THE BAN AT ALL BUT WE SHOULD BLAME IT ON THE OWNERS THEMSELVES.WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT THE ROTTIE MADE THE ATTACK OUT OF IT'S COMPOUND AND THAT IS HARD TO DENY THAT,IF IT HAPPENED IN THE COMPOUND ITSELF WITH THE ROTTIE DESTROYING THE INTRUDER,THERE IS NOBODY TO BE BLAMED.IF THE DOG ATTACKS OUTSIDE IN PUBLIC WITH OR WITHOUT THE HANDLER BESIDE,THE OWNER WILL STILL BE AT THE WRONG SIDE.THESE ARE THE IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS WHO CAUSE INNOCENT OWNERS TO SUFFER.PUT ASIDE THE BAN,MY FRIEND FROM JOHOR WHO IMPORTED HIS ROTTIE AS A PUP FROM AUSTRALIA 3 YEARS AGO HAS TO PART WITH HIS DOG WHEN HIS NEIGHBOUR KEPT HARRASSING HIM OVER HIS DOG AFTER THE NEIGHBOUR READ ABOUT THE NEWS OF THE ATTACK,HE SENT THE DOG TO ME,THIS IS A ROTTIE WHICH WOULDN'T HURT A FLY AND WITHIN 3 DAYS WITH ME ,HE GIVES HORSE RIDES TO MY 2 YEAR OLD BABY.WELL' IT'S NOT BANNED IN JOHOR BUT MY FRIEND SUFFERED THE SAME AND I EXPECT A LOT OF OTHERS ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME TOO.SO,IN ORDER NOT TO FACE WORSE SITUATION,WE SHOULD GO FOR RESPONBILITY FIRST.TO LEARN RESPONSIBILITY,GET TO KNOW YOUR DOGS FIRST,CHARACTER,TEMPERAMENT AND WHAT ARE OUR DOGS AGRRESIVE TO AND WHAT WARNS YOU THAT YOUR DOG IS GOING TO ATTACK.I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL STOP ON THE 'RACE 'THING,BELIEVE ME,IT WILL ONLY MAKE THINGS WORST.BEAR IN MIND,YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO IS WATCHING THIS FORUM,DO YOU?HAVE A GOOD DAY

JoeSmith
K9 Maniac

Aug 3, 2005, 5:46 PM

Views: 1887

Re: [APPK] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi Eddie, you have some valuable points regarding responsibility.However, I do not agree to the point to be cautious about �big brother� might be watching this forum. First, nothing posted in our forum is intended to insult or humiliate others. Second, we are not politicians or diplomats; hence, we talk the way we feel about any given topic, without considering or knowing much about the politically or legally correct formulation. Third, the banning breed issue is ridiculous and a move in the wrong direction (that is my personal opinion) because nobody would ban the Proton car just because somebody got killed from this �breed� of car. Last year, more then 6000 people got killed in traffic accidents and GOD knows how many got injured. So banning cars & bikes would seem more justifiable then dog breeds, isn�t it?

PSY
K9 Kaki

Aug 3, 2005, 6:35 PM

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Re: [APPK] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi,

great to hear from you and I agree with your views to the tee, particularly about knowledge of a breed that one may like to own instead of "aiyah so cute must get one" thingy. I do hope owners read your reply and would be owners too before deciding on a breed.

PSY
K9 Kaki

Aug 3, 2005, 6:43 PM

Views: 1873

Re: [JoeSmith] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi,

Please try to understand, Malaysians are a bloody sensitive lot hence the "race" and "religion" issue are brought to the forefront plus a little inferiority complex, (my opinion). When these word are brought up people feel that they have lost or some are just to nervous to support the issue. So, I do feel strongly, lets not bring up the subject and solve the problem. A lot of our worries are self-impose by asking ourself the smallest word ever and has the most meaning ever "IF". For me . I would ask question like "will the authority (local council) guarantee 100% my house will not be broken into when I am away and when I am fast asleep, if 'Yes' I shall find new homes for them today, and this I am serious.

JoeSmith
K9 Maniac

Aug 4, 2005, 12:30 AM

Views: 1860

Re: [PSY] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Well, I am sensitive too. Wink

I do not consider my dog to be my guardian (guardian angel probably) but my companion, which I love very much.

For me might be easy talking (as an expat), but I would rather leave the country then giving up my dog.

It is very sad that more and more species are extinct or standing just in front of it, just because we are lacking tolerance (ban is some sort of this too).My statement regarding road fatalities shows that we are able to tolerate any danger and that we are willing to take any risk, when it is to our benefit and/or comfort. In my opinion, it is not justifiable to ban any breed of dog just because one dog went berserk. It should be judged on a case-to-case basis as like, as any crime would be judged. Consideration to the circumstances and living conditions should be given and the latter should weigh heavily on the owner. Anyway, we will see how the issue will progress.

APPK
Member

Aug 4, 2005, 10:45 AM

Views: 1842

Re: [JoeSmith] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

HI JOE,I DO AGREE THAT IT'S NOT FAIR FOR BANNING THE BREED WHEN JUST ONE DOG GONE BESERK.THEY COULD HAVE JUST TAKE THE DOG AWAY AND THAT WOULD HAVE JUSTIFY EVERYTHING.WHAT ABOUT THE OWNER?HE PLEAD UNGUILTY,IT MEANS THAT HE SHOWS NO REMORSE.HE COULD HAVE SETTLED THE ISSUE OUT OF COURT BUT DID HE?IF HE DIDN'T,THEN HE MUST HAVE FELT THAT HE IS NOT IN THE WRONG.WHAT I BELIEVE,IF YOU LOVE THE DOG,BE RESPONSIBLE OVER HIM AND IF YOU DON'T,THE AUTHORITIES WILL BE COMING AFTER YOU AND TAKE AWAY YOUR BELOVED COMPANION OFF YOU.WELL,YOU ARE RIGHT,IT MIGHT BE EASIER FOR YOU TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER FREELY(YOU ARE AN EXPAT).I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY(BIG BROTHERS)WATCHING OVER THIS FORUM,I AM TALKING ABOUT AUTHORITIES WHOM WOULD BE COMING AFTER ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO START ANY RACE/RELIGION CONTROVERSY OVER......A PET FORUM..?YES,YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING ILLEGAL,THIS TOPIC ON RACES/RELIGION IS ILLEGAL,IN MALAYSIA.TRY TO MAINTAIN FOCUS ON THE MATTER ITSELF,CAUSE THE BAN IS ALREADY BAD ENOUGH AND WE DO NOT WANT ANY DOG OWNERS TO FALL INTO DEEPER TROUBLE...WITH THE LAW.NO OFFENSE JOE,I JUST WANT ALL OF US TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT THINGS THE RIGHT WAY.

JoeSmith
K9 Maniac

Aug 4, 2005, 8:38 PM

Views: 1837

Re: [APPK] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

OK, points noted.

There are two scenarios: the owner shows no remorse, because he knows why the dog did attack this person, but can�t tell it openly. You mentioned already that some topics might be �off-limit� here in Malaysia. OR, he does not care about the dogs, human beings or his community.I am just upset that it seems the new trend throughout the world to ban and/or punish dogs for its irresponsible and careless owner.

leecy
Ultra ALPHA

Oct 23, 2005, 8:06 AM

Views: 1787

Re: [JoeSmith] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

JoeSmith

Yah, lots of things are sensitive & "Missing".. for example why do the dog attacks the kid as they normally wont.. wat the kid had done & cause this happen? Crazy

Regards,

Yang

PSY
K9 Kaki

Oct 24, 2005, 7:24 AM

Views: 1761

Re: [leecy] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi leecy,

My compliments from the other thread is for your response and question you ask and comments you make, just like the one you have done here, it was not for that particular posting. Comments made on that thread was and is getting a lot rediculous and not really help to solve the problem at hand.

ilya
Novice

Dec 21, 2005, 2:11 AM

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Re: [darenong] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

I dont think race is an issue, its just the group of people who want to have things go their way. If you own a pet and you dont train it or socialize it enough, any neighbor will be irritated from the noise and stench.

jc_05
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Dec 22, 2005, 10:23 PM

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Re: [ngkl] Shah Alam Banned some breeds.

Hi, i'm new here and I have a 5 year old Rotti named Nelson. We may be moving to Shah Alam area sometime next year. Is the ban still on for this breed? What if I keep him indoors..can the MBSA still take action?