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tuckfook
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Oct 10, 2004, 3:02 AM


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Dogs for hunting wild boars

Anyone know about good breeds for hunting wild boars. Suggestions are welcome Smile

Where can I get Beagles in Kedah, Penang or North Perak ? Good dogs with or without papers ?

Thanks.


chnyuppie
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Oct 12, 2004, 10:36 PM


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Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi Tuckfook

i don't have any dogs for hunting wild boars, but my dad and his friends do have some non-purebreds that they use for such hunting.

According to my dad, some dogs either "have it" or not, and as such i don't it is necessary that a purebred will be better.

They go on weekly hunts, and these dogs just love it. The moment they see the jeeps coming up, and with the grouip of hunters, they very willingly jump into the jeep and ready to go!


Sydney
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Oct 16, 2004, 4:12 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

well some bigger dogs can do the trick like a labrador retriver. why u want 2 hunt 4 wild boars?

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sslee80
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Oct 21, 2004, 8:38 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi

you can consider Great Dane. GD were originally bred for hunting wild boars. It has the size, strength, and speed to bring down a boar which could be double its size if not equal.

it would be great if I have the chance to go for hunting with my 3 giants. Where do u hunt the boars??

Have a Great Day.

Sean LEE


MisterStan
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Oct 21, 2004, 8:41 PM


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Re: [sslee80] Dogs for hunting wild boars

hello

talking about hunting . beagles are famous for rabbit hunting. but can beagles hunt down wild boar? wild boar size is around beagles size right.


sslee80
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Oct 21, 2004, 11:38 PM


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Re: [MisterStan,ALL] Dogs for hunting wild boars

hi,

wild boars can be as big as a bear, and its tusks are the killing weapon. It can cause serious injuries to hunting dogs. Thus, it requires a hunting dog which has the capability to bring the boar down.

I haven't seen/read about any hunter used beagles to hunt boar lor... yes for hare or fox huntingSmile

I think this is not the proper thread for hunting discussionPirate why not we start one at working group???

Have a Great Day.

Sean LEE


MisterStan
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Oct 22, 2004, 12:54 AM


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Re: [sslee80] Dogs for hunting wild boars

SmileSmile oh i see. ok ok . SmileSmile


tuckfook
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Oct 22, 2004, 1:57 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi All

Hey, you people are really amusing !

The Malaysian Wild boar full grown is about 100kgs. Bigger than a full grown St. Bernard. Black to Dark grey in colour and probably runs faster than most dogs. It inhabits dense jungle undergrowth and uses tracks which it runs through with ease. These track are like low tunnels and with it's pointed snout and low head/snout profile, literally tunnels through the undergrowth. The males have 2 " Fangs " which protrude from the lower jaw and these are used very effectively as weapons. The fangs are sharpened by 2 teeth which rubs against the Fangs every time it closes it's mouth. The females can only bite but their jaws are powerful enough to pulverise oil palm seeds or bite through a dog's thigh bone easily.

Great Danes and similar dogs are only good in open country which of course the Wild boar avoids.

I have used pitt bulls and the dogs are too aggressive which ends up with a dead pitt bull. Cowards are the survivors. Big dogs are unable to manouvre in dense undergrowth. Most boar hunting dogs are just the roadside mongrel, trained to hunt.

The Beagle cross with Jack Russell terrier is what I'm after. Good pack instinct, good sense of smell and plenty of barking on the chase. A pack can bring a big boar down but a Big dog will not be able to move well in our jungles.

My hunting is usually around the estates out of Kulim to Baling. Wild boar meat keeps my dogs healthy and happy whilst I also enjoy some of the lower cholesterol meat.

So people, if your JRT and Beagle did something naughty, sell the offsprings to me !

I actually posted here accidentally, yes by all means start a new thread.



Tuckfook.


sslee80
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Oct 26, 2004, 8:30 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

hi

check out this site: www.boardogs.com

there are many mixed breeds used to hunter wild boars. I agree with you that M'sia jungle is different compares to western countries. Thus smaller size dogs are more appropriate for hunting.

Tell us about your hunting experience though...

Have a Great Day.

Sean LEE


liangann83
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Nov 10, 2004, 5:29 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

 Hai.........

my granfather also use mongle to hunt the wild boars Tongue Tongue Tongue............... mongle is more "tahan lasak" and some time they return with 2 or 3 wild boars, the result is not bad.


tuckfook
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Nov 10, 2004, 8:18 PM


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Re: [liangann83] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

We use mongrels at the moment, we have over 20 dogs and use about 10 every hunt. Somehow I think specialist breeds may do better.

Beagles, Foxhounds etc. have been bred for years to do their jobs well and successfully so perhaps they'll work here too as they have definitely better noses than our mongrels and not to forget that howling of theirs that is so captivating in itself.

regards



Tuckfook.


liangann83
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Nov 10, 2004, 10:49 PM


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 i think Beagles or Foxhounds is not suitable for hunting wild boars because of their saiz.......... maybe some big and gaint saiz dog can help you in hunting........ as we all know wild boars is not small, some can up to 100kg???? (just like you say). Pirate Pirate Pirate

Beagles more suitable do their duty in hunting wild rabbit or snake.


tuckfook
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Nov 11, 2004, 4:26 AM


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Re: [liangann83] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

Size, that's exactly what I thought so I crossed a Pitbull with a Bull terrier for a med sized fighter. Well out of 6 we had, 5 died because they were too ferocious and too BIG to manouvre in the thick grass, vines and ferns that wildboars like to hide !

90% of the smaller mongrels survive and most are too chicken to attack a wild boar except bark and chase after but run when attacked.

In Malaysia, we don't need the dogs to catch and hold the boars, just find and chase them out and the hunters will do the rest.

So, my conclusion would be a dog that will not attack a bigger animal, barks a lot and has good pack instincts with a good nose for find the prey.

In fact someone had a spitz once and it was good ! It would chase the pig, make lots of noise and never attack or get too near. Unfortunately the spitz does not have stamina and the white color would be prime target for the waiting wild boar.



Tuckfook.


hybridtheory
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Jan 4, 2005, 2:17 PM


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you would need tracking dogs like plott hounds or coonhounds to locate the animal, then you would need an american bulldog or larger breed dog to take the wild pig down.


tuckfook
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Jan 5, 2005, 5:46 AM


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Re: [hybridtheory] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

I'm gonna cross Beagles with local dogs to get a cowardly but noisy breed, which hopefully will have a nose to locate the boars.

Once flushed out, there is no need for dogs to bring the boar down, the shotgun takes care fo that.


Toy
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Apr 24, 2005, 1:05 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

u r a hunter? well i dono wether this is possible but maybe u can cross husky with collie? as collie got good brains while husky run damn fast & energetic.


tuckfook
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Apr 24, 2005, 2:10 AM


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Re: [Toy] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

Yes, I hunt every week.

Collies are smart with a herding instinct but are not usually pack dogs. They are also fairly large for our jungles.

The huskies are strong runners, pack dogs with good hunting instincts BUT have long fur which is unsuitable for our weather. they are also quite large.

Large dogs are not suitable as our jungles tend to be thick with vines that catch dogs. Wild boars run in tunnels which suits dogs that are about 17" at the shoulder. Smaller dogs tend to be more agile which will help them avoid an attack by wild boars.

Thanks for the idea, all ideas are welcome.

Tuckfook


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Aug 22, 2005, 5:49 PM


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Hi, Tuckfook!

Oiseh...u are here!!! How is your Boxer mixed?

Beagle good for hunting meh? heard ppl said king of Terrier is good for hunting, really?



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tuckfook
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Aug 22, 2005, 7:17 PM


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Re: [glng675] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi, long time since I last posted, still lurking though Blush

Last month, I lost my APB x Boxer 3rd. generation. "Velu" as the beaters called him, had too much of a APB trait and over a year of chasing boars had aquired at least 50 slashes all over. Well, the last one did him in. He was slashed in the stomach region and it literally spilled some of his intestines out. The Indian Vet in Kulim stitched him up but I think there was further internal injury as he had bloody stools and the wound broke open after about a week. Nothing we could do as it was festering internally inspite of large doses of antibiotics.

Velu's sister is the last of the generation and we are keeping her for further breeding with the mongrels, So, she's retired.

The Last of the crosses which I have in my house(pic. I sent) is doing well. Quite aggressive for a puppy and probably not to be used for hunting but a guard dog.

As for Beagles, they were bred for hunting, chasing down small animals. Less famous than their bigger brother the Fox hound. Beagels are good with their noses and their bark. Not for fighting boars, which is good as I do not want to see dogs killed. ot managed to cross any of them yet.

The better terriers for hunting are the Fox Terriers, which I am looking for. Plenty of noise when on the chase and coward enough to run away when attacked. That was not what Velu and his sister would do in facing a boar, irrespective of size of the boar. It was always straight into attack mode.

nice to hear from you.


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Aug 25, 2005, 12:31 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

tuckfook

very interesting thread to discuss abt hunting. may i know u hunt for interest or..

well noticed that chihuahua is the type which will bark non stop & give a chase to strangers but will be coward enough to run away if the stranger give chase.

well i understand they might be very small but as u said u dont need to hunt the boar down so will this be possible? or maybe u can use a male chihuahua to mate with another potential female which have the gene that chihuahua lack for hunting?

just a thought, hope u can give me some feedback, thanks. & dont laugh at me lah.






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Yang


MisterStan
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Aug 25, 2005, 10:12 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

hi tuckfook

would love to join u on a hunting trip to open my eyes.. hehe.. so where do u stay?


tuckfook
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Aug 26, 2005, 6:14 AM


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Re: [leecy] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

I don't know if anyone has tried Chihuahua for hunting, but I'd guess they are too small and get swallowed up in our jungles. Many mid sized animals in our jungles that would find the CHH a tasty morsel.

We need low pitched barks that carry further than high pitched which is what the smaller breeds do.

The CHH is not a pack dog, as hunting dogs need to work together to get the boar, the CHH might probably be unsuitable in this aspect too.

Maybe you can cross wiotha large terrier, eg., Fox terrier and get a hunting breed from that cross. You'll have to study the offsprings to see if they have the hunting instincts. It's a long process which is why we try to keep to established hunting breeds.


tuckfook
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Aug 26, 2005, 6:21 AM


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Re: [MisterStan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

We hunt out of Sg. Kob which is about 20 kms from Kulim which is about 50kms from Penang. Most of the others go about 3 times a week, I go only on sunday.

Hunting is not for those who are unfirmiliar with the Malaysian outdoors. Leeches, mosquitoes, hot sun, wet mud, an occassional snake etc.etc. If you like all that, then please do join us for a trip. Morning start at about 8am and finish in the evening when it starts to get dark or earlier if the hunt has been good or dog has been injured.

Best if you ride a cub bike, especially Honda ex5. and like slippery muddy roads. Saves a bit of walking and adds to the fun. I ride a scrambler.


MisterStan
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Aug 26, 2005, 6:53 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

ic ic... seems not easy .. hehe..

wow, the hunting site is far from kl.. hehehe


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Sep 6, 2005, 5:42 PM


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Chihuahua mana A hunt? tan jit A pat boo kee in jungle!Laugh



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ic ic... seems not easy .. hehe..

wow, the hunting site is far from kl.. hehehe

Sg Kop is near my house...hehhe..I living in Jungle alsoTongue



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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi Tuckfook,

Sorry for my late reply! Sad to heard that you lost your APB x Boxer. But I think this similar case always happen rite for bringing doggies for hunting.

I have a female PB, I think she will on-heat soon. I prefer to breed with APBT or maybe breed with my boxer.

How you go for Hunting? by 4WD or Honda EX5? Last week always raining, It should be many boars come out from jungle rite?



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MisterStan
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Sep 6, 2005, 6:55 PM


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OK OK.. THEN one day u bring me go hunting with your boxers and apb... FrownFrownFrownFrown


tuckfook
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Sep 6, 2005, 8:39 PM


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Re: [glng675] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

Yes the rain is good for hunting as the boars come nearer into the kampungs.

I use a scrambler when I go hunting. The EX5 is probably the most versatile of all but I travel from Penang and cub is too slow !

Anyone welcome to join us for a hunt. Just email me to make arrangements.

Tuckfook.


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Hi,

Yes the rain is good for hunting as the boars come nearer into the kampungs.

I use a scrambler when I go hunting. The EX5 is probably the most versatile of all but I travel from Penang and cub is too slow !

Anyone welcome to join us for a hunt. Just email me to make arrangements.

Tuckfook.

Wow..scrambler!!! long time didnt see this "climbing mountain tiger"...

Tuckfook, I interested to join but I dun have motorbike ler...and important thing is any dangeriuos? Heard ppls said if more than 2 teams hunting at the same area will be a bit dangerious coz the other team may not know we also surrounding there and maybe kena shoot! especially for the newbie who simply shoot at the shake object. True??!!



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glng675

haha, maybe mix chihuahua with rottweiller loh, hehe.. Tongue






Regards,

Yang


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stanley

well if u go with tuckfok u r hunting, if u go with glng u r hunted, if go with me u r haunted.. ekekekek...






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Yang


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haha, maybe mix chihuahua with rottweiller loh, hehe.. Tongue


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stanley

well if u go with tuckfok u r hunting, if u go with glng u r hunted, if go with me u r haunted.. ekekekek...


Wa mana A ka lang?Crazy



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MisterStan
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Sep 13, 2005, 8:16 PM


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Re: [leecy] Dogs for hunting wild boars

 
wah, then i better go with tuckfook.. going with you two is so dangerous,, any moment i can get killed by wild boars..

SlySly


coffee
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Jan 10, 2006, 10:28 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Ok, first of all. Hunting, why? Not enough food? Thirst for blood? Don't get me worn, personal opinion. I am against hunting since we are not hungry enough to do that. Imagine you kill the animal for game. My principle is you can take what you need to survive from the mother nature.

For the selection of breed, I think our local dog is the best especially those not too tall. The slightly short legged one is excellent as they can go in between bushes and branches relatively easily.They are agile and brave. But the most important is the lead dog. Experience wild boar will always have very good lead dog and they are willing to spend for the lead dog. It is not easy to find a good lead dog.

Pittbull is not suitable. It is too aggressive. They will charge the first thing they see the boar unlike the local dogs which will "herd" or isolate the boar and attract the hunter attention. You will always find pittbull with broken spine and broken leg on wild boar hunting. Wild boar's task is strong to rip open anything but the jaw is also very powerful to crush bones.

Great Dane might be good for Europe and American kind of corniferous jungle but definitely no in our tropical jungle. Can't move unless you use parang to clear a path for the dog. Waste of time if you ask me.



Well that's my opinion. anyone want to add?


claylu
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Dec 13, 2006, 11:22 PM


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Re: [coffee] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Yaya...my next door neighbour use all local dog for hunting every weekend...they said local dog better than other pure breed dog...anywhere l have no idea since l do not follow them...But l hate their local dog...they really when crazy when my Shit tzu on mating season...they really use all kind of method to break in to my house...my Shit tzu got pregnant 1 time bcoz of these dogs...but now instead of prevent outside dog to come in my house l rather lock my Shit tzu at her cage....


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Yaya...my next door neighbour use all local dog for hunting every weekend...they said local dog better than other pure breed dog...anywhere l have no idea since l do not follow them...But l hate their local dog...they really when crazy when my Shit tzu on mating season...they really use all kind of method to break in to my house...my Shit tzu got pregnant 1 time bcoz of these dogs...but now instead of prevent outside dog to come in my house l rather lock my Shit tzu at her cage....



Yes, I also heard some hunters told me the mogrel is good for wild boar hunting...

OPPs! If things like this happened to a human is a rape case... but happened to a dog... Crazy can sue the owner or the dogs or not?


PangurBan
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Dec 14, 2006, 3:43 PM


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Re: [Kevin Chuan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

In fact, the owner must pay stud fee!


vinoviruz
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Dec 15, 2006, 2:56 AM


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Re: [PangurBan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

this one susah lo, they all come gang-rape one, the owner wanna pay stud fee koyak lo









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Sep 24, 2008, 1:40 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi TuckFook,

I just came across this post...looks interesting...i am from pg...i go Kulim quite often to visit my uncle...i may wan to join but i dont have bike or scrambler...actually i dunno how ride kekkeke....but any way besides the leech that everyone hates...are there any other setbacks? will it be dangerous? because of the gun and dogs Shocked

but as what i was told, ppl catch hogs there by baiting them into a loop of rope that is tie up to a log, when the loop caught a hog, there is no way out, the big log will entangle wilth all the trees making manuevering impossible and hog that run havoc will get entagle more with the tree trunks around.


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tuckfook
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Sep 24, 2008, 5:43 AM


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Re: [jinkazuma] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

Hunting has it's dangers and risks that as hunters, we are prepared to take.

Boars do attack and have been known to kill people. Hunters do have accidents and shoot each other.

Other than that, it can be safe and exciting.

What you described is using a noose trap to snare wildboars. That is an illegal practice which carries a heavy fine and jail penalty. Of course many people do try to snare animals but I am against such practice.


jinkazuma
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Sep 25, 2008, 7:08 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

ic...i dont know that snaring is illegal... i heard foreign workers use this to catch

most of the dogs from a chicken farm around there lost one of their feet...

btw, why do you against snaring? it is because of law or?

have you manage to breed the perfect dog for the boar hunt? you are not using the hold type dogs right? what are the combination in your hunting pack?

interested to know


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tuckfook
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Sep 26, 2008, 5:17 AM


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Re: [jinkazuma] Dogs for hunting wild boars

When a boar is snared, it will not escape the pain and suffering for a long time...until it is killed. It may escape by breaking off a leg and then it'll be difficult for it to feed and protect itself.

Shooting takes a fraction of the time to put it away.

I am using beagles and beagle crossed with local dogs to hunt. Both equally good except that beagles make a distinctive howl.


OmgPuppy!
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Oct 8, 2008, 8:24 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Tuck Gor , i went for hunting few times also. But normally just being a spectator lo. Hunting in the evening is more exciting. Cuz can really see those will boar run like headless chicken when those dogs charge towards them. And sometimes my uncle dogs able to catch some small wild boar , around 40-60k. Then rifle bullet also save. Pakai parang can gao dim that wil boar d. My uncle prefer to see those dogs bitting those boars. So any suitable dogs for that heavy duty ? Have u tried to use pitsxvege dogs to hunt ?



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tuckfook
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Oct 8, 2008, 8:20 PM


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Re: [OmgPuppy!] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi,

I've been using pit x vege several gen. dog and still have a few. They are a LITTLE less agressive towards the boars but still bad enough to get injured regularly.

Had one injured a few weeks ago and on it first trip after recovery, it got bitten again. They just retain the agressiveness of Pits too much. This was a third generation cross. ie, Pit x vege = Pv, Pv x vege = Pvv, Pvv x vege = Pvvv and this was a Pvvv, stll retaining the traits of the Pit great grand father.

I now tend to want to use Beagle cross as they keep away from the pigs and also the vet fees down. I don't get anxious when the pig is cornered by the dogs as these dogs keep their distance.

A pit cross is a good candidate to corner boars, use several so that they can work together to hold the boar down. At least 4 if not more. Be prepared to visit the vet often and also bury your dogs eventually. Even in Australia, their suitably armoured dogs get killed.

I should have taken photos(too shocked to) of a Pv slit open at the throat by a big boar, from ear to ear, and we never got the boar nor was it injured at all.


OmgPuppy!
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Oct 9, 2008, 4:07 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

But i think la,only a wild boar around 100k or above can brutally injure a dog. I think only la. But i can see many scars on those hunting dogs. My uncle said hunting at afternoon is not illegal, and its different when it comes to night. Is that true ? I'm not sure la. Btw, except wild boar, what else have u hunt b4 ? Leopard ??? Black Bear ?? Deer ??? King Cobra. So far i only see wilboar and black bear. So a pit that cross with vege for few times will still be kinda aggresive hu . . then pening lo. . .



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Take my lesson, or take my life,
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Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
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tuckfook
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Oct 9, 2008, 5:34 AM


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Re: [OmgPuppy!] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Most sexually mature boars will be about 60+kg and they will have 3" razor sharp tusks, fully capable of killing a dog with one slash in the right place.

Boars have a very thick and hard pad on their shoulders, about .5" thick hard skin and another .5" softer skin. This is so tough that sometimes shotgun bullets do not penetrate, yet we often see 6" plus slash wounds right through these pads, damage from contesting boars during mating.

No part of any dog is as tough.

I have seen a female charge at a dog and throw the dog 6' + into the air, landing 10'+ away. The same female bit into the belly area of another dog and tore it open, making a 12" wound, exposing the intestines. It was only about 50kgs when finally shot.

50kg+ boar, 1 to 1 a dog will always lose. With 2 dogs, maybe a stand off.

60kg+ male boar, with tusks will seriously hurt any dog that goes near.

Dogs only win the fight when several attack from all angles, biting at the testicles, ears and thighs, pulling the boar from all directions thereby disabling it.

The problem with a pit is that it usually attacks the boar face to face, with or without the help of its pack. So when the pack is not there to help, it'll fight a losing battle. The other major problem is that a pit will not retreat, so you can guess the result.

It is not a pretty sight and if you love dogs, as I do, do not use dogs with Pit genes to hunt boars.

Hunting for wild boars is only permitted between the hours of 7am to 7pm. Flying foxes, 7am to 11pm. All bears and large cats(panthers, tigers,) are totally protected, ie no hunting. Deer have an open season determined by the respective state, special permit required for the duration of 1 month. The hunting of any wild animal incl. birds, requires a permit issued by Perhilitan.


OmgPuppy!
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Oct 9, 2008, 6:15 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Eh Tuck Gor, thanks for the information. But maybe my estimation wrong d gua, maybe that boar is only 20-30k or lesser. I think that time got at least 6 vege bitting that boar. And my uncle use parang stab on the wild boar ( inside the front leg ). Then gao dim d. But if large boar then need rifle d.



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colinchin
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Oct 13, 2008, 6:00 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hello Tuck Fook,

Thanks for sharing with us your adventure. Let's keep them coming in. How often do you go hunting ? Beagle is a hunting dog by itself, why do you crossed them with local dogs ? Cheers.


tuckfook
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Oct 14, 2008, 5:25 AM


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Re: [colinchin] Dogs for hunting wild boars

A beagle is well known for following it's nose and not anything else.

For this reason, I have just lost a female beagle today, after she broke through the chain link fence. If anyone finds a female tri colour beagle in Penang, that sometimes responds to " Honi " please sms me at 012 482 4235. You'll be rewarded with a free beagle pup from Honi when she's next bred.

So, continuing with hunting, if a beagle scents a boar and follows the scent, it'll keep going until it is shot, but the boar might not cooperate and manages to escape the guns, so the beagle follows and follows and follows and does not come back.

In crossing with a local dog, we hope to reduce the incidences of lost dogs.


luv_leehom517
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Jun 9, 2009, 5:45 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

maybe pit x rottweiler x boxer x vegi? strong dog x smart dog..btw..anyone tried poodle?as they r very alart..


luv_leehom517
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Jun 10, 2009, 5:39 AM


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Re: [tuckfook] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Schnauzer??they r smart n alert..n barky too..


Sashan
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Jun 17, 2009, 4:41 PM


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Re: [luv_leehom517] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Very interesting and informative thread :) Even though personally I'm not into hunting, its interesting to know what dogs can and can't hunt due to their inborn breed traits.

Just a question, if you cross a beagle with a local dog, wouldnt you get the floppy big ears? or its no problem for your dogs?


luv_leehom517
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Jun 18, 2009, 5:55 AM


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Re: [Sashan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

i think beagle croos vege will looks like a corgi..maybe their ear abit bigger than normal of half standing?hehe..


Sashan
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Jun 18, 2009, 6:15 AM


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Re: [luv_leehom517] Dogs for hunting wild boars

If it looks like a corgi its going on my want list :D


luv_leehom517
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Jun 18, 2009, 7:14 PM


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Re: [Sashan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

lol!i prefer mongrel..i like the dark chocolate brown colour..if full brown the damn nice la..the face like corgi but maybe boday is like beagle ler..Tongue


Sashan
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Jun 19, 2009, 12:11 AM


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Re: [luv_leehom517] Dogs for hunting wild boars

I like corgi cuz my old dog looked like one :) short stumpy legs, big hears and nice, small not too square not too pointy muzzle. He was black and white tho, and corgis are tricolor :( So i need a mongrel corgi lol!


luv_leehom517
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Jun 19, 2009, 5:21 AM


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Re: [Sashan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

then adopt from pound lo..sure got some one..


Sashan
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Jun 19, 2009, 4:12 PM


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Re: [luv_leehom517] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Nah Melaka pound got like a million Shih Tzu's for some reason. Anyway already got 2 dogs again :)
Adopted a pom as Bugs (the remaining dog) liked her and didn't fight with her. Before that she whacked a puppy so I didn't dare to bring a new dog home


luv_leehom517
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Jun 20, 2009, 7:31 PM


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Re: [Sashan] Dogs for hunting wild boars

shih tzu??why??in kl the pound got lot of miz breed one..come n hv a look la..alot of mix/mongrel..last time i went paws got 2-3 beagles there..O.o..


Nicgunsmith
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Aug 26, 2009, 7:44 PM


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Re: [luv_leehom517] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hi guys.just signed up today. found this thread very intresting.

i have "German short hair pointer" and "Labrador" , this guys are perfect for small games hunting like bird,waterfowl and squirrel hunting. they r perfect in retrieving. extremely smart dogs and wont stop running around and sniffing in the field.

I'm using a Benelli 12 bore shotgun mod. Elegant.

Nice to meet u guys.


(This post was edited by Nicgunsmith on Aug 26, 2009, 7:46 PM)


El Mas Mejor
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May 1, 2011, 11:25 AM


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Re: [glng675] Dogs for hunting wild boars

Hey everyone, we're new to this thread and we're glad too se that in Malasya exists big game hunting such as wild boar hunt. In the first page someone asked about the dogs that are able to hunt wild boars, Dogo Argentino is a hunter with exellence and one of the few dog breeds created for this proposal. Dogo is a prey dog which has to search and find the prey, is able to stop him and control him fisically untill the hunter comes and kills the prey with the way "dog and a knife".

Dogo Argentino is a very athletic, fast dog with a great nose, with a big abilily to fight with the prey. He posess a fearless character, those characteristics makes him as creator of this breed said "most prey between all the dogs and most dog between all the prey dogs".

Feel free to ask about more informations about this magnificant dog breed which we breed in their native country, Argentina and we also give them mentioned function.

As soon we I can we will post some photos of our dogs hunting, have to figure out how to do that.



Greetings,

Maja and Sebastian