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ilovenba
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Sep 27, 2004, 10:01 PM


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american pitbull

hi all, i was thinking of getting an american pitbull, but i heard some comment from my fren that the pitbull is kinda difficult to handle, so i wonder if u all could give some comments about the behaviour, temperament or anything about the american pitbull. thanks





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Doggyman


Sep 27, 2004, 10:16 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

halo... 1st.. sorry i don't know much about the american pitbull canot help u out.. hmmm but about difficult to handle ah.. this is what i believe lah hehe and read some from books also..

doggie canot have a friend friend situation... they must have a leader.. so once u show u r the leader.. they will be all under u and respect u.. then it will not have problem to handle him.. so..all is about the human..us loh..

show our doggie that we r boss doesn't mean we scold them, we control their freedom, or we don't sayang them.. we still can have as much as fun we want, we still can kiss them and hug them.. they still can run anyway they like..

just they will always check on u and do what u ask for..

anyway good luck ah! heheh by the way.. i got a bullie.. hehehe.. he is in my avatar..

welcome here and enjoy lah!


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ilovenba
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Sep 28, 2004, 12:59 AM


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Re: [Bull Lover] american pitbull

yea, ur bull dog is kinda cute, thinking of getting that, but well, it's kinda expensive, hehe.

well i just wanna learn more aboutthe pit bull before i really go and get one, as i already got a jrt at home, i donno if they can be fren if i brought a pit bull back... and if my gf can handle the pitbull or not. my fren's fren is offering me a pitbull, so i need to study more about the pitbull.

hehe, if the pitbull really not suit me, then perhaps i'll go to spca to adopt one. i but well, the spca is kinda far away from where i living and i am not sure how to drive there. hehe... fyi, me is penang lang and just move to sri kembangan 2 month ago....





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Sep 28, 2004, 1:22 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

ohh i c.. yes wor better study well only get.. if not take back and he canot get in ur life style ah.. then very cham loh...

ohh penang ah.. just here 2 mths oledi canot wait to get doggie lah hehehehe....

i try to look look the info for u lah.. but from book one ah.. not my experience hehehe.. but hope can help u out lah..

bullie ah.. hmm its abit high loh but worthy ah HEHHEHEE.... i am crazy with this bullie... like them coz they r fat and lazy haha and ugly hehehe.. hmmm they r very gentle..Wink


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ilovenba
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Sep 28, 2004, 1:40 AM


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haha, well i used to get one dalmation crossed and a boxer before. my dal passed away just for a week after i bought her home from the petshop. she's infected with a vital viruses. sigh...

then later i get a purebreed boxer, he's cute and very healthy but well, my mum got allergies with the puppy so i have to giveout to my fren.

now since i am moving out to kl with my gf, so i can have some doggie at home. and i just got the jrt, but still planning to get a guard dog.

hehe, the place i am staying at the equine park there, got lotsa watch dog. so if i don get one, my place would be one of the best place for the thief to break in. hehe





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mcmann
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Sep 28, 2004, 4:39 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

hi bro equine park no worry la got a police quater there leh.....last time don have punya time that place really is a thief quarter...hahahaha







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Sep 28, 2004, 5:59 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

pitbull will be a good guard dog... but u need alot of time to bring him out for running wor.. heheh lazy like me canot lu.. pitbull is under working group? maybe u post it up in the working group.. i think there r some ppl have pitbull here...


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Sep 28, 2004, 6:00 AM


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Re: [mcmann] american pitbull

everytime i think about guard dog and think about our bullies hahahah make me laugh haha..


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minglmy
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Sep 28, 2004, 6:06 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

The American Pit Bull Terrier

Introduction

Sixty years ago a delightful gang of kids romped across movie screens accompanied in their antics by their faithful dog Petey, a sturdy white pooch with a colored patch over one eye. Petey performed a remarkable array of tricks to help the kids in and out of scrapes -- all in all, he was the consummate childrens' pet.

The original Petey was Lucenay's Peter, a purebred dog registered as an American Pit Bull Terrier with the United Kennel Club and as one of the 50 original Staffordshire Terriers accepted into the American Kennel Club. Whichever breed name is claimed for Petey, one thing is certain; today this dog could not be kept within many city limits without facing arrest and euthanasia. American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are outlaws by city ordinance as vicious dogs.

The American Pit Bull Terrier has a long history as a dog of the common man, and it is from his basic stock that the AKC's AmStaffs and Staffs developed.
History

In 1835 the British Parliament outlawed bull baiting, a sadistic gambling game in which bulldogs were used to attack and harass bulls brought to market with the dubious intention of tenderizing the meat. The dog would assault the bull, avoid the stomping hooves and slashing horns, grab a tender nose or ear, and hang on until the bull collapsed. Commoners and royalty alike sought diversion from the violence and diseases of their day by attending these bloody spectacles until a public outcry forced Parliament to take a stand.

Once bull baiting was banned, dog breeders who appreciated the fierceness, courage, and tenacity of the bull dogs turned their attentions to breeding dogs for dog fighting. They began with the bull dog, mixed in some terrier blood, and produced the Bull and Terrier, a dog that met all of their expectations. The Bull and Terrier was bred for aggression to other dogs, unrelenting bravery, a high pain threshold, a willingness to fight to the end, and an affection for people.

Bull and Terrier dogs came to the US in the early 1800s as all-around farm dogs and frontier guardians. Samuel Clemons featured a pup of this breed in his short book The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County.

The United Kennel Club recognized the Bull and Terrier Dog as the American Pit Bull Terrier in 1898. Buster Brown shoes put its mascot in every shoe with the image of Tige, an American Pit Bull Terrier, to enhance its image as a sturdy, dependable shoe. RCA used Nipper, a pit bull of unknown ancestry, to illustrate the clarity of sound emanating from its phonograph -- after all, it could fool the loyal pit bull into thinking he heard "his master's voice" in person. The breed was used to illustrate American neutrality without fear in 1914, the toughness of Levi jeans, and as a"defender of Old Glory."

The AKC eschewed breeds called "pit bulls" until 1936, when it recognized the American Pit Bull Terrier under the alias Staffordshire Terrier, named after the miners of Staffordshire, England, who had a hand in developing the breed for the fighting pit. The name was changed in 1972 to the American Staffordshire Terrier to distinguish the breed from the Staffordshire Bull Terrier of England, the ancestor of the American dogs, which was recognized by AKC in 1974. The British version of the dog is 14-16 inches tall and weighs up to 45 pounds. The American cousin is 18-19 inches tall and weighs up to 80 pounds. UKC's American Pit Bull Terrier is preferred to range from 30-60 pounds with females generally, but not necessarily, smaller than males.

Staffs, AmStaffs, and APBTs produced by responsible breeders are bred for temperament. Many dogs of these breeds are therapy dogs; some do quite well in obedience, and one -- Bandog Dread HIC, VB, SchH 1, CD -- even has a herding title. Another, Solomon J. Grundy, is a service dog for quadriplegic owner Arvid Kuhnle of Saskatoon, Canada, and Bullitt, was shown on the 1985 Easter Seals poster with his owner, Gordy Ranberg of Genesee, Michigan.
So what happened?

The American Pit Bull Terrier and its AKC cousins had a well- deserved reputation as a loyal and trustworthy family pet in the early years of this century, but of late has been severely castigated as a vicious, man-killing beast, worthy of banishment from the cities, considered guilty with no chance of proving innocence in any case.

"Pit bull" is a generic and derogatory term that encompasses any of several breeds of dogs or crosses on those breeds. Pit Bull fanciers can be divided into several camps: conscientious breeders of the AKC-registered duo who often deny kinship of their dogs with the APBT; ethical breeders of the APBT who face squarely the slander heaped upon them by ignorant neighbors; and unethical breeders of all three breeds who still indulge in dog fighting or promote aggressive temperaments for illegal purposes. Dog fighting rings still exist--it's only been a few years since a ring with national ties was busted in New Richmond and Blanchester, Ohio--and inner city drug dealers often use the dogs to guard their drug supplies and cash.

To further complicate matters, those who still breed for fighting are not as careful to preserve the dog's strong instinct to bond with humans as the early breeders did. So, today "pit bull" is a pejorative term that strikes fear in the hearts of many and leads to the spreading of urban legends about dogs with locking jaws that exert 20 thousand pounds of pressure, unstable breed temperament, and overwhelming human aggression.

In fact, the well-bred American Pit Bull Terrier is a family guardian and protector; an intelligent and obedient pet; a sweet, even-tempered dog that serves well as a help-mate to handicapped owner and friend to small children; and a healthy, hardy dog that complains little and offers much to his family.

Unfortunately, it has been more important for legislators in many jurisdictions to prove to constituents that they have "done something" about community problems. Spurred on by media accounts of "pit bull" attacks described in lurid detail, these councils and commissioners have banned pit bulls in all their forms from their communities. Never mind that the owners are the ones at fault for harboring a vicious dog; never mind that few of these dogs actually bite people; never mind that the breed and its crosses are not always easy to identify. Just ban them.

So, many shelters do not offer pit bulls or any dog that might be part pit bull to be adopted. Insurance companies cancel house insurance if a pit bull is in residence. Neighbors mistake everything from Boxers to Pugs as "pit bulls". And those criminals who used pit bulls as protectors of their illegal activities switch to Akitas or Rottweilers.
The standard

The United Kennel Club standard for the American Pit Bull Terrier is rather sparse. The dog is square and powerful with a blocky head, prominent cheeks and jaw, and taut, muscular body. He has a deep chest, and a short, glossy coat of any color. His ears may be cropped or not. Size can range from 30- 50 pounds for females and 35-60 pounds for males. Although they are from the same stock and meet the same criteria as the AKC American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terriers cannot be registered as an AmStaffs, but AmStaffs are admitted to the APBT registry.
Care and training

This short-coated breed needs little grooming and suffers from few diseases. He is subject to hip dysplasia, cataracts, and some tumors.

Training is a critical consideration for the American Pit Bull Terrier. This is a strong-minded dog that needs socialization as a pup to accept humans as the beings in charge and obedience training to keep him from setting out to control the household. Meek and mild potential owners should forget about this breed and choose another.

The training relationship should not be one of master and slave, however. The dog should be shown what to do and made to do it without any yanking, smacking, jerking, or other punishment. Firm guidance will lead to respect and trust; physical penalties will lead to disrespect and distrust

cheers,
minglmy


kelsey
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Sep 28, 2004, 5:37 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

american pitbull is banned from malaysia right? i maybe wrong but i remembered reading something on this. the american pitbull terrier is a different dog from the american pitbull. yes the american pitbull make very good guard dog, they are also very fierce despite their size lah. they are bred to do dog fights right?

not sure if you can find them here. another very good guard dog is the american straffordshire. a bit taller than JRT.


ilovenba
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Sep 29, 2004, 3:43 AM


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Re: [Bull Lover] american pitbull

well today some one called and asked me to adopt a puppy. it's a mongrel and i've agreed to take the puppy home and well, wont get the pitbull liao unless my house kena break in lah.. haha

thanks for the information though...



best regards

boonlee





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Doggyman


Sep 29, 2004, 6:11 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

congratulation wor.. get ur doggie lu... train well ur mongrel lah.. he will be a GOOD doggie. just like my bf mongrel.. smart boy!!! real smart! better then taro.. my bullie hahaha how old is the doggie? when r u going to take him back ah? show us his pic lah..


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ilovenba
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Sep 29, 2004, 6:51 AM


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Re: [Bull Lover] american pitbull

well here u go

http://www.puppy.com.my/...forum_view_collapsed

it's kinda small, a few weeks old and i never handle sucha small one. any advice?





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Doggyman


Sep 29, 2004, 7:01 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

white color one ah? heheh cute one wor.. baby ah.. give him milk milk lah.. not human one ah.. doggie milk..the cheapest one u can get is CFP brand its about $7 per 400gm

soke the kibbles u give him lah.. mix with some canned food lah.. then shoul be fine lah...

update me ur doggie wor hehe


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ilovenba
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Sep 29, 2004, 7:07 AM


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Re: [Bull Lover] american pitbull

sure. should not be a problem.





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Sep 29, 2004, 9:46 AM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

hi, Smile

The net has plenty of information and resources. Just use one of the many many many many search engines and type in "pitbull" and you'll get plenty of results.
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ilovenba
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Sep 29, 2004, 6:16 PM


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Re: [RealityDreamer] american pitbull

yea but at here we could get more "Real" experience talk from the real owner rather that the techinical articles from the web mah. but anyway, this is only my pov. hehe





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Doggyman


Sep 29, 2004, 9:09 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

u oledi get him home lah?


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Sep 29, 2004, 10:55 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

aaah....i got ya Smile

well, i've met a game bred pit b4 n let me tell you,they've got alot of energy. If you don't channel that energy,you're going to get a very destructive dog and of course naturally,they are dog aggressive to each other. male to male. the male to female aren't too bad but they do fight.

i'm not so sure abt the show pits tho...dont noe the owner of one personally.
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Sep 29, 2004, 11:14 PM


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Re: [RealityDreamer] american pitbull

halo long time no see!!! how r u? hows ur doggie? hehe.. my taro is big boy now hehe.. r u going to RDO?


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Sep 30, 2004, 9:50 AM


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Re: [Bull Lover] american pitbull

Hi, Smile

um...think this is not the right thread to chat. Do u hv a thread where we can chat?

n yea,i'm going. hope to see u there Cool
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Sep 30, 2004, 4:39 PM


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Re: [RealityDreamer] american pitbull

no worries i just say hi to u.. better then don't say hi but see u here mah..

i am always in the chit chat thread.. u r welcome to chat in our CHAT WITH WILLY AND TARO..


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ilovenba
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Oct 1, 2004, 7:02 PM


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i have lost my puppy this morning. i put her at the compound to explore today and go up to the a bath and after then when i go down to find her but she's no where to find. i keep on searching in the area but still no sign of her... so sad...





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Doggyman


Oct 1, 2004, 10:21 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

ohhh dear... did u put her in colar ah? ask around see if ppl see a doggie with the color of collar? she still a pupy.. may not run too far lah i think... did u check around? the longkang also? post it in the lost and miss forum lah.. and tell ppl where u stay.. hope someone can see her...


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ilovenba
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Oct 4, 2004, 6:56 PM


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finally got her back. apparently my neighbour at the next next door found my pupy when she is looking on the way to get back home. so my neighbour take care of her for me for 2 days as i went back to penang.

then i got her back from my neighbour last nite. but still, kinda worry of her coz i got no place to put her.there's 4 big dog kept in the house just opposite of mine and keep barking on my puppy whenever they saw her at the front yard. and i cant keep her in the house becoz my gf wouldn't let her to go in.so this morning i put her at the back yard, hopefully she isnt going to running out again. i am so worry about her. plan to go back to take a look at her at my lunch time but i gotta go and get some more milk and duplicate some keys and get some woods or net to fixed my backyard so she wont running out again...





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Oct 4, 2004, 11:54 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

yes.. if she is too small then get some net to block the hole in the gate lah.. u didn't get her a cage? or buy 4 pcs of play pan lah..

get her doggie milk ah! not human milk ok!! aiyah.. hope she will be fine lah.. take care ok...

u r lucky to get her back.. nothing bad happen.. Smile


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ilovenba
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Oct 6, 2004, 6:11 PM


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gave her bath for the irst time, but she's so afraid of water. bath until she pees.. so i had to stop half way and rub her. half clean now... hehe, well i keep her in the back yard and eveytime when i was not around, she'll slip out to other place and explore, pee and poos outside then she'll be coming back to my backyard. well i get the the doggie milk, mix with the blended doggie food. she's kinda enjoy the milk but she doesn't like the canned food.maybe i kept the food in the fridge and she don't like the cold food.... havent take her to the vet for the first vaccined, will bring her on sat.... btw, does anyone here know what time the UPM vet clinic open? does it open on sat and sunday too??





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Oct 6, 2004, 9:24 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

WAWWW such a good owner ler.. she is soo lucky ah!!! having u beside her...

if u can affort u try cesar lah she sure like it very mummy one.. even i smell it also yummy.. its about $2.50.. then cheapest i can get is $2.20... small can one..

bath her with warm water? don't let her catch a cold ah..


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Oct 20, 2004, 8:26 PM


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Re: [ilovenba] american pitbull

All Pitbulls are potentially dangerous dogs.

Having stressed that, Pitbulls are not friendly to any other dogs though there may be exceptions, but you'll never know when they'll turn on the other dog. Pitbulls seldom waste time before attacking, there is no customary quarrel. It's straight at the neck shoulder joint and backpedals until the other dog collapses only to release to get a better bite or when the other dog is dead.

Pitbulls are almost useless as guard dogs. Most of the time they'll choose to go for another dog than a person and most crooks worthy of their profession know that ! Besides, pitbulls hardly ever bark !

Pitbulls need a lot of space and they can jump 5 ft. easily and climb fences .

How do I know.........I've kept 5 Boxers and R.Ridgeback. All systematically demolished by the singular Pitbull from 1 year old to 6 yrs old. The pitbull was fenced in 6ft. Chainlink and grew up as a pup with the others. Always friendly to the others and it happens so suddenly, without a sound except for the whinning of the other dog.

This dog had also cleared my perimeter fence of 6ft chainlink and killed several large spitz, 2 Rottweilers and a GSD. All cost me a bomb to replace !

I have seen Pitbull breeders and their dogs in fights, believe me, if you remotely like dogs you'll be turned off !

This pitbull I kept, I bought because it was the last of the litter and looked so cute, all black with a white chest and an almost square head ! Cobra. ( oh yes, he has white on his feet ! ) Remained a faithfull dog till the last day, never snarled at the kids and behaved better than a Retriever when the kids climbed all over him, yet I get goosebumps when I recall the muffled snarling when he has connected fangs to another dog.

I thought I could train him to be obedient, well, he did quite well when I shouted for him to stop but sometimes he pretended not to hear or I caught him a few seconds too late.

For nearly 10 years I lived with the fear of another incident, only in the last year(of his life) did I feel comfortable that Cobra was no longer capable !

So, think carefully.



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ilovenba
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Oct 21, 2004, 6:06 PM


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Re: [tuckfook] american pitbull

wow... luckily i din get the pit bull....





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