As u know I m currently only doing prey works, trying to get him to do firm grip on tug before moving on.

Therefore b4 I attempt to do any defensive works, is there any method/ways to develop / bring-out / stimulate his defensive drv . I wanna be damm sure wt all this b4 moving on to this step, the other reason is I dun wanna stress him too early. Is there any other method than tie-in to stimulate this drv..? . . . Anybody ? ?

How do u read into defensive drv , I meant other than the hackles at the back of its neck & a deeper bark under aggitation or..? ? the reason is I dun wanna be confuse def drv with weak nerve so that if his nerve cannot handle protection work I will stop this phase immediately......!

BTW anybody knows any place in M'sia that sell prot sleeve etc ?

My version of civil would be " willingness to fight a man without equipment". I guess thats why the dogs are trained on hidden sleeve and muzzlework. But its a little bit risky..

Thanx for timely advise, I will keep that in mind. Just wanna clarify a bit , is it alrite to do the tie-out (to build frustration) myself or you nedd to get a helper to do it ? ?

As for his nerves, well from wht I gather & observe he is ok wt loud noise, things like fire-crackers dun scare him, I got him around CNY so there was a lot of crackers going off around my neighbourhood, I thk he slept through most of it but not my other dog...LOL ! , as for the puppy test , well I forgot to bring anything wt me then, so I just improvised using a bunch of keys that I was holding , i dun thk the noise was loud enough but he did chk out the source of noise , but he was not very lively at that time (I thk it was around mid-day then) . . . Anyway I guess I just have to wait & see, should have a better picture in another few more mths. praying real hard....he-he !

BTW anybody wanna give a go in interpreting "FIGHT drv" ? I thk it will be very useful to other reader on board since this term is use quite frequently here...! Azman, ..PSD, ..anybody ? ?

Guys..,
I went to Melaka lah.. yesterday.

Defense requires courage & nerves.

At 9 months your dog should show (1 to 3 yrs must be there if not may not be there at all) signs of defense drive. Observe them and build on it step by step.

Look at his body language when reacting to unfamiliar things or person. He should have focus, defense posture and the defense bark etc. Easier to say when you have the dog in front of you. Don't stress him into avoidance.

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FIGHT DRV :
is the Interaction of Prey & Defense Drv with
the Forwardness of Prey & Intensity of Defense
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Yup thats wht I was thinking off when I got my pups, I called it stacking up my odds.....he-he !

"German lines are slower in defence maturation while Czech are earlier."
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Any idea wht abt DDR lines...?

"To do too early will push the dog into avoidance but to do too late will locked them in prey."
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Now like wht Azman mentioned earlier, how to perceived or our dogs accurately....! I know this comes with experience but any advice will be most helpful since I dun wanna screw up this wt my 1st working GSD...

"Depending on the threat level ,courage and its training, your dog will react differently whether to fight or take flight. This is normally where sport dogs, real protection dogs and Police service dogs starts to differ"
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So guys, normally who do u thk will last the distance !
My best guess will be Police Service...b'coz of the stressful test but might put my money on Mondio Ring if given a choice ... seen a demo video, I thk that's a killer for sure. . !