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Riccaval
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Sep 8, 2003, 10:46 PM

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Its in the STAR today on page 40.

It says more than 3000 dogs were paraded through central Berlin on Saturday in a demostration by owners for more rights and public tolerance. Smile

minglmy
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Sep 9, 2003, 9:37 AM

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hmm.... too bad we can't do this in KL Wink

or maybe...... Tongue

cheers,
minglmy

(This post was edited by minglmy on Sep 9, 2003, 9:38 AM)

Trivor
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Sep 9, 2003, 5:31 PM

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no-lahh, we can't do it here Frown

ISA will catch us all and feed us carry rice for the rest of our life hahaahaaa.... Cool

~ Trivor ~
~ SC & Low, mama and dada ~

Riccaval
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Sep 9, 2003, 6:45 PM

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if done peacefully and with permission from the authorities, why not? Tongue

minglmy
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Sep 10, 2003, 2:32 AM

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well, when they do let our fierce doggy stand in front of us only lor.... then we tell them to 'grrrrrr, grrrr " till the people leave lor... kakakakkaa !

cheers,
minglmy

minglmy
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Sep 10, 2003, 2:33 AM

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Do u seriously think that it can be done ? then we would be dispelled from u-know-where lor .... Crazy

rite ?

cheers,
minglmy

nathalie
Doggyman

Sep 10, 2003, 7:47 AM

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Hi,

U R rite...not only they don't like dogs but they will also put us n our doggies in lokaplah.... Frown

With dogs...too early to dream Unsure

JolinG
Doggyman

Sep 10, 2003, 10:32 PM

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somebody in puppy.com must join the parliment n jadi MB then at least got some 'liu' there

then maybe the idea is plausible Wink

to have demonstration without being lockup Frown

Elly
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Sep 11, 2003, 4:04 AM

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Daughter replied Father's post....Cool!~ Angelic

JolinG
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Sep 11, 2003, 8:59 AM

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alamak elly Crazy

tot your msg got sokongang for sombody to be MB....

msg pulak say reply dads post..ahhaha

Elly
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Sep 11, 2003, 6:02 PM

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Eh...Sokong! I sokong!

Notice or not, our posting & title r more or less the same. U also 700++ posts, me also. ANd u r K9 Kaki me also!~ Cool!~

icezcream
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Sep 12, 2003, 10:35 AM

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hi there...

more news on doggies worldwide......got this from yahoo news....

Eat More Dogs, Cambodians Urged
Thu Sep 11,10:24 AM ET -

PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - Cambodians are being urged to eat more dogs as part of a crackdown on stray mutts wandering around the capital of the southeast Asian nation.

Although dogs, along with creepy-crawlies such as spiders, beetles and crickets, are found regularly on menus in deeply impoverished rural areas, eating them is frowned upon in the relative sophistication of Phnom Penh.

City governor Kep Chuktema says it is now time to draw up a special pooch policy to control the growing problem of pavement-fouling strays, and for city-dwellers to throw off their traditional snootiness toward dining on man's best friend.

"Come on, dog meat is so delicious," he was quoted as saying in Thursday's Cambodia Daily newspaper. "The Vietnamese and Koreans love to eat dog meat."

"(Cambodians) don't have wine, but poor people can enjoy their dog meat with palm juice wine," he said.

Hitherto, Phnom Penh dog lovers have had to keep their tastes under wraps by asking for 'special' or 'jogging cow' meat in restaurants.

story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=3&u=/nm/20030911/od_nm/cambodia_dogs_dc

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hunter
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Sep 12, 2003, 12:11 PM

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hi,

so if there's overpopulation of humans at some countries, let's eat humans!!!! >:|

they don't bother to find ways to curb the problem humanely and came out with such a sick idea. perhaps they think it's the cheapest and easiest way out. seesh.

regards,
hunter

lulugurl
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Sep 12, 2003, 5:25 PM

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Thats how they control the population of rat in one of the town in china i think..forgot where d. at first is to control then it become their delicacy.....but cruel lar.. Pirate

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JolinG
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Sep 13, 2003, 12:50 AM

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WOw really..
i geuss like some ppl who keep pigs as pet
and they say how can kill pigs to eat...
maybe this applies to us when they say kill the dogs to eat so the stray population there is kept in check.
geuss they dun have dog pounds and enforcement officers to keep this strays in check n thats the only way to solve the prob?
a bit not right to us....but maybe its the only way for them Crazy

icezcream
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Sep 13, 2003, 9:15 AM

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well...quite true...cambodia is still a developing country...the government rather spend on developing the country than to run a dog pound..and the people might not be able to afford to spay or neuter their dogs..the easiest way,eat them.. Unsure

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jaz
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Sep 13, 2003, 7:35 PM

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Would you like to make this suggestion a reality?? That would be really good Smile

I am sure you'll get all the supports you can get from the forum and it's members Smile

Riccaval
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Sep 14, 2003, 7:00 AM

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Its a good way to lobby for a dog park but ......hehehe we need a strong leader Unsure

jaz
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Sep 14, 2003, 11:05 PM

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but if the public make enough noise with signed patition, we could get thier attention too.. Smile

poor_me
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Sep 15, 2003, 5:58 PM

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Hi All,

What we have in Malaysia so far is all built on the tolerance, and understanding. We would try to avoid bring out sensitive issues and such.

Even in the rarity of getting an approval for such a march, you must consider if the effect would be the same if done in other countries. In Malaysia, most Muslims believe that the dogs are 'unclean'. Most forbids the touching of one much less the owning of one. By marching so many dogs in the face of such many people who fear touching these dogs are like disrespecting their beliefs and culture. The effect of such a march will be more negative than positive. Many will feel insulted by the disregard for the sensitivities.

We need not a dog park. All we need is park managements that allows dogs, and of course responsible owners. The number of dog faeces found littered around at the Central Park after the RDO shows that many parks will still turn us dog-owners away. How could the park management be ready for us when we are not ourself ready to be more responsible?

Regards,
Alan

2ephyr
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Sep 15, 2003, 7:29 PM

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i dont think we have enuff number 2 get their attention lo....

Riccaval
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Sep 15, 2003, 7:54 PM

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Hi Alan , agree with you. After yesterday's gathering I think many are not ready to be responsible.
Just by looking at the no.of poo around the park.
I personally couldn't stand it and had to pick up at least 3 of other ppls dog poo just to show an example but there were just to many. I noticed some just don't care or were embarass to pick them up. Why eh??

lulugurl
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Sep 15, 2003, 8:08 PM

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Hello,

I totally agree with you. We just need a park that accepts dogs. Smile

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lulugurl
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Sep 15, 2003, 8:11 PM

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Hie, then these ppl who are embarrass to pick up the poo poo, their house must be filled with them. Crazy

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mackmack
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Sep 16, 2003, 12:46 PM

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I personally couldn't stand it and had to pick up at least 3 of other ppls dog poo just to show an example but there were just to many. I noticed some just don't care or were embarass to pick them up. Why eh??

Maybe it's the day of buka-4-ekor~ Angelic

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cshellz
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Sep 16, 2003, 5:16 PM

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yah, we saw some owners who noticed their dog poo poo-ing and then quickly look away (like he didn't notice) and then not looking down at all quickly pull his dog away!

Tyler and I have picked up a few landmines around the registration booth canopy....grumbling of course!

It's the tidak apa atitude of the general public that's very disgusting. Take a look at our public toilets...ppl would rather do their 'business' around the designated area because they think it's dirty there. You have ladies who climb onto the toilet bowls to do what they need to do....throw what they shouldn't be throwing in like baby diapers into toilet bowls. Why? Because they always think that they are only using it once and there will be someone to clean it anyway.

Some of the adults that day who brought their kids along and didn't bother picking up their doggie's poo should be ASHAMED of themselves. What bad example they are showing to their young ones. I remembered one particular man who did that and when I saw him again later I couldn't help but give him a look of disgust. Mad

What a disgusting, irresponsible and lack of civic consiousness person he is!!

minglmy
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Sep 16, 2003, 8:38 PM

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Hi Derrick,

looking at the poo around the park I feel really dissapointed with most of the people there.... to them as long as the poo is not IN their own ground (at other people's place) then its ok not to pick it up ! How irresponsible these people are !

I can't help but wonder why these people dun feel ashamed of themselves especially when their furkids did it in front of so many people and everyone keep pointing it to them to pick after their dogs. All they did is just pretend to look for some newspaper then quickly walked away !

I can remember during one incident in the PD Trip one of the member did the same thing too. It ended up that Sharon (arthur's wife) have to pick up the landmines ! It was so discouraging to see all this happening even after being reminded so many times during the event.

I guess these people just don't realise the park is rented and its a public place we have to take responsibility to make the park clean before handling it back to the management. As long as they are not there to see it then there is not their problem huh. how sad.... no wonder we are not allow to bring our furkids to any park anymore... sometimes I really can't blame the council for having this kind of rules.

cheers,
minglmy

mackmack
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Sep 17, 2003, 8:03 AM

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It must be a SCENE on that day! Shocked

After reading all these feedbacks about the POO-POO picking.... felt wanna throw up! Like I could just step on any mine anytime..... horrible.... disgusting!

Obviously.... the public needs more education on this issue. but HOW?

Maybe next time lift up a sign-board or a banner, put up some LAT comics there to "warn" them? (Draw the scene of what you guys witnessed that day) I mean.... yeah.... sounds a bit sarcastic~ Angelic

But guess that might kick it up abit?

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poor_me
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Sep 18, 2003, 5:49 PM

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Hi,

I must confess I might be guilty of one incident on PD day, but allow me to explain the situation. I was walking Lil' Monster and was avoiding poo mines, when I saw saw Lil' Monster pee (he does it without lifting his leg). Which reminded me that I forgot to bring out the small plastic bags that we brought for collecting the poo. I ran in to get the plastic bag. I kept the plastic bag in my pocket and Lil' Monster did not seem to have poo-ed (he usually does it pretty slow - with a ritual of turning and turning and turning - you get the idea...).

I was only informed the next day that he had actually poo-ed and it has been picked up by someone else. I was very apologetic then. I can swear by my soul that I did not see that he poo-ed or I would have quickly picked it up. It was a very embarassing incident I must admit. Again I take this opportunity to offer my sincerest of apologies.

That makes me sound like a hipocrit when I made my earlier statement doesn't it? Tongue

Well, I greatly dislike irresponsible actions not picking up doggie poo, therefore, I spoke my mind. If that mistake tars my repute, I can do nothing but continue to apologize for that incident.

Regards,
Alan.

sweeeng
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Sep 18, 2003, 5:58 PM

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eeeeeeeee............... yucks!!!! how can this happen? My goodness.... ... pengsan oredi, la...

regards,
sweeeng

icezcream
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Sep 19, 2003, 2:31 AM

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wah wah!!sweeeng pengsan oledi...CPR anybody???golden opportunity for you guys to "pok mong"(take advantage)..hehehe.. Smile

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minglmy
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Sep 19, 2003, 8:51 AM

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Hi alan,

I guess you are not the only one there.... there was a few landmines going around if you get what I mean :) no need to apologize lar... you was not aware of your kid's wrong doing mar. Those that did was the one that really need to feel embarassed about especially when the KNOW (juz like those we see in BU last sunday... I'm sure you get what I mean) Wink

cheers,
minglmy

minglmy
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Sep 19, 2003, 8:54 AM

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eh, eh cannot pok mong lar.... u wanna die ar !

cheers,
minglmy

quinalona
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Sep 24, 2003, 4:07 AM

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It's not so much that the public needs to be educated or reminded. They ARE aware of it but they just choose not to claim responsibility. What people need is behavior modification.

My sympathies to the poopie-pickers. I salute you. :)

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It must be a SCENE on that day! Shocked

But guess that might kick it up abit?