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fuikiaw
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Oct 10, 2003, 5:41 PM

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R u talking on the apple cider? If so, it should be given daily as part of their water.

fuikiaw
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Oct 10, 2003, 5:42 PM

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Do u mind me asking where do u buy huskie? Coz his birthdate and my shih tzu is the same. By the way i have added your name onto the list. Maybe you can complete the rest.

angie_yeoh
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Oct 10, 2003, 7:24 PM

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Oh... ok will do. Thanks loads.
Angie & Furbie-bie

FantasiaShihTzu
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Oct 10, 2003, 10:31 PM

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About the Apple Cider in water...

The dogs will probably hate it and they won't drink enough water...

I suggest the face be washed and dried daily instead and wrapped and banded... OR

Cut the face hair if it is a pet...

BTW - some USA and Canada show people do use apple cider vinegar in water BUT they start when the dog is YOUNG and STOP it when the dog retire from the show ring.

So the apple cider in water is NOT a forever thing...

Breeder of BIS - BISS - BJIS - BBPIS - BBPISS, Champion and Grand Champion Shih Tzu.

fuikiaw
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Oct 10, 2003, 10:36 PM

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Yes as i know they really hate it when they smell it. What i did was i wil give it to them at least once a week. They have to finish the bottle of dilluted apple cider before they can have a clear water to drink. Besides i did try to mix it with their food also. Coz they don't have any choice and they'll eat it.

Yes people do give apple cides for beauty as they said. When they do not enter the show ring, they'll stop. But actually apple cider do help in preventing ticks also.

FantasiaShihTzu
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Oct 10, 2003, 10:40 PM

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I think the dogs would rather have the apple cider in food than in water, the people who feed BARF diet do give Apple Cider and the dogs usually will eat it...

As for ticks, Garlic works and Brewers Yeast.

I use Apple Cider but as a rinse for shiny hair... LOL! My hair. Smile

Cheryll

Breeder of BIS - BISS - BJIS - BBPIS - BBPISS, Champion and Grand Champion Shih Tzu.

glass_mermaid
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Oct 11, 2003, 12:57 AM

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i bought him in usj.........one of those dog shops.........forgot the name.........where did u buy yours?

fuikiaw
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Oct 13, 2003, 5:52 PM

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I bought mushu from a breeder in usj also. I wonder are they brothers and sisters?

fuikiaw
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Oct 13, 2003, 5:58 PM

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Oh.....issit so? Can we user apple cider to wash our shih tzu's also? Will it provide also the same result that is shiner hair?

I have a question since you are the breeder of champion shih tzu's i would like to ask how can we make their hair grow longer?

FantasiaShihTzu
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Oct 14, 2003, 12:52 AM

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Some people would use apple cider vinegar as a rinse for their dog, but I would prefer to just use a good quality shampoo and conditioner and then spray some shine products.

Grow hair? Just brush daily and bathe 1-2 times a week.

Your breeder should be able to teach you how, I suggest you visit his/her home and they show you how to bathe and brush and clean ears and cut the nails, etc.

BTW - Shih Tzu is still Shih Tzu - whether 1 or many.

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glass_mermaid
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Oct 14, 2003, 6:23 AM

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what is the breeder's name? is the breeder by any chance staying in usj 9?

fuikiaw
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Oct 14, 2003, 5:25 PM

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Ya i think she's staying in usj 9. I wonder wheter we can say out the name over here. But her house is a corner lot. SHe breeds only schnauzer and shih tzu.

fuikiaw
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Oct 14, 2003, 5:26 PM

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Thanks for the advice

loveshitzu
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Oct 14, 2003, 6:53 PM

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hi...

r u the same fm ???

do u noe this guy orson retena?

btw, i thot u said in ur website u only response 2 queries only to those who own fantasiashihtzu???

but i guess being in this forum means that u r now willing to share ur expertise with us?

Cool

bye...

loveshitzu

loveshitzu
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Oct 14, 2003, 7:16 PM

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Dealing with Eye Staining
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by Bobbie Linden, Bhe-Jei Maltese, reprinted from the Shih Tzu Bulletin

Perhaps one of the most frequent questions I am asked t about Maltese at dog shows is "what do you do to keep your dog's face so white?" My answer is always multiple in nature...it includes the multiple causes of tear staining, including genetics, health and diet, and what the prevention is, and what can be done about it when you have it.

Background and Causes

Most veterinary eye specialists believe the actual cause of face staining is excess tearing. When the face hair is wet from excess tearing it is the breeding ground for bacteria and yeast. One of the most common yeast infections is Ptyrosporin or Red Yeast which causes a deep reddish-brown stain. Low grade bacterial infections in the tear ducts are also I common and may cause excess tearing and staining.

I believe that genetics plays a significant role in excessive; tearing and staining. Like most everyone with more than one dog, I have had Maltese that tear stain. However, my first champion Maltese bitch has had minimal tear staining. When I breed her both of her puppies had no tear staining as baby puppies. The female puppy continued through her championship and a limited specials career with no tear staining. She recently had a litter of 3 puppies and as of 4 months of age they have absolutely no tear staining or facial stain from nursing. One month after this litter of puppies was whelped I had another unrelated bitch whelp. Both were breed to the same sire. The second litter of puppies had tearing and staining from the beginning. The head structure on the two litters is different. Many veterinary eye specialists believe that the actual structure around the eye area plays a significant role in excessive tearing. I feel there is a genetic predisposition toward tear staining. Being selective in Maltese breeding stock can play a significant role in tear staining.

Eliminating excess tearing is one of the best ways to stop staining. Maltese owners should pay attention to the hair around the face and prevent hair from falling into the eyes causing irritation and infection. Maltese can be susceptible to allergies so watch the environment your Maltese is in. I have heard from other Maltese owners whose dogs previously had sparkling white faces and overnight tear stained when in a hotel room with a friend who smoked. It also is important to be extra careful when bathing you Maltese. Shampoo and other chemicals the eyes can cause irritation and excess tearing.

The water in many areas has a high mineral level . If your Maltese drinks from a water dish and your local water has a high mineral content you may find the entire face and beard stained. I have solved this by training all my dogs to drink from a water bottle. This also keeps the face dry. I start training puppies to drink from a water bottle when they are weaned. Alternatively, a Maltese can be placed on purified or commercial bottled water.

I also believe diet plays a key role in tear staining. I find that feeding a dry kibble that is natural with no additives preservatives or food color in it seems to aid in maintaining white stain free faces. I also keep my show dogs' face hair in wraps so that their food does not come into contact with their hair.

Before a Maltese owner attempts to remove the tear staining from a dog's face it is most important to have eliminated the source of the staining. Otherwise it will just come back and many times it will be worse than before. Once the source of excessive tearing and staining is found a proactive program to remove the staining can begin. After insuring that irritation, environment, water and diet issues have been as a source of excessive tearing you can begin to think about removing the tear staining. Dealing with yeast and bacterial infections is nex t. I have found success in eliminating tear staining by putting my Maltese on a ten day course of low dose chlortetracycline. Occasionally this may need to be repeated. However, I do not use this in puppies that have not yet cut their adult teeth. Tetracycline has been shown to cause teeth which have not erupted to permanently stain yellow. Maltese not responding to tetracycline may respond well to Lincocine. Yeast infections in the ears may also be a frequent culprit of ear stain; this generally responds well to Otomax (gentamicin sulfate).

Removing Tear Staining

If you wish to attempt to remove tear staining from the facial hair there are a several things that can done. There are a number of products available from the dog products suppliers at shows or through mail order that can be used on the facial hair on a daily basis. However, it is my opinion that unless you have minimal staining these products just do not work.

I have three solutions that I can suggest to remove tear staining . Care must be taken in using these products or any other chemical solutions to not get anything in the dog's eyes. It is also important to remember that when attempting to removing tear staining you my also be damaging the hair. Before I bleach I make sure I condition the hair well first. What works best for me is Wella Cholesterol. I pack the face furnishings with this for several days before I bleach. Make sure you neutralize the effects of the chemicals you have used and condition the facial hair after any attempts to remove stain.

(1) Milk of Magnesia, corn starch and peroxide (20 volume to 40 volume) -- make a good paste of this and put o the stained area and let dry overnight. Wash out, CONDITION WELL. Keep doing this for several days until tear staining is gone, although I would recommend skipping a day or two between applications if possible.

(2) Crowne Royale makes a product called "WHTENER' -- mix this with peroxide (20 volume to 40 volume) into a paste and again leave on overnite. The Crowne Royale Whitner works a lot like number 1, it works faster but IMHO it is much harsher -CONDITION WELL. Crowne Royale's phone # is 1-800-992-5400 and is also available from many vendors at the dog shows.

(3) Human hair bleach -- there are any number of brands of this . When I started in Maltese a number of years ago my mentor told me ONLY to use Wella Wellite (this is the one in the light blue/turquoise package). Many of the human hair bleaches are very harsh and they all work, but care needs to be used in selecting the bleach to use. I've tried others but always go back to Wellite.

The bottom line of beaching is CONDITION CONDITION CONDITIO N. I also use 40 volume most of the time. My personal hairdresser (who was one of the top colorists is NYC before "retiring" to Northern California) told me that if your going to bleach 20 volume is just as bad for your hair as 40 volume -- the color comes up faster with 40 volume. The DAMAGE you do to the hair --and yes bleaching can do damage -- is the same. It depends on how long bleach is on the hair (time) and it is shorter with 40 volume -- hence less damage. I always use the creme bleach and have recently found a gel bleach that works quite well. These are much better than the straight liquid types -- better on the hair.

And finally, don't be impatient. If you have a face the is badly stained it may take several bleachings to bring the color back up to white. Do it several days apart and in between CONDITION CONDITION CONDITION.
Codger's Corner Home Grooming Index
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loveshitzu

loveshitzu
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Oct 14, 2003, 8:22 PM

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i was refering to FantasiaShihTzu 's website ( fantasiashihtzu.com )

bye...

loveshitzu

loveshitzu
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Oct 14, 2003, 10:08 PM

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i was wondering y apple cider now i noe.

read below (extract) :

Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats, by Dr. Richard Pitcairn DVM Ph.D. (Updated Edition 1995)

Natural Remedies for Dogs and Cats, by Diane Stein (1994)

Natural Home Remedies for Pets

by Chihuahua�s Kingdom

Apple cider vinegar. Raw apple cider vinegar is a wonderful daily tonic that boosts the immune system and fights bacteria. It can heal infections of the urinary tract and kidneys. It balances electrolytes and enzymes and adds minerals. Truly a miracle food...and so inexpensive and simple to use. Add raw apple cider vinegar to your Chihuahua's water bowl - about 1/2 teaspoon per pint of water. If she won't drink it at first, add a little raw honey to sweeten the taste, and gradually phase out the honey. Make sure you buy ONLY the raw, unpasteurized, dark golden variety of ACV that has cloudy "stringy" things floating in it. Called "Mother of Vinegar", they contain the bulk of the healing nutrients. Don't buy distilled, light amber, or white vinegar. These are fine for cleaning, but useless for healing.

link : wellnesstoday.com/october/pets.htm ( just add www.)

bye...

loveshitzu

fuikiaw
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Oct 14, 2003, 11:39 PM

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Thanks for the info

FantasiaShihTzu
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Oct 15, 2003, 3:59 AM

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Loveshihtzu,

Actually I do not mind helping people!

What I HATE is people buying from puppy mills and such and they know nothing about anything and want to breed their dog or something is wrong with thier dog or their dog is vomiting, etc etc etc... and will email and email and email, do I look like a free veterinary service?

I do not like to get involved in such things! And I do have a life I cannot spend my whole day answering these emails...

Forums are a different thing, I visit once in a while and give input when I feel like it...

Yes i know Orson - from email. he seems to be an OK person who DEARLY LOVES his pets!

Breeder of BIS - BISS - BJIS - BBPIS - BBPISS, Champion and Grand Champion Shih Tzu.

FantasiaShihTzu
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Oct 15, 2003, 4:03 AM

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Actually a MORE COMPLETE article could be found on Bobbie's site! Bhejei maltese - just type that in the goole search engine and you will find the page.

She also has grooming info and this is for Maltese but applicable to shih tzu as well.

Breeder of BIS - BISS - BJIS - BBPIS - BBPISS, Champion and Grand Champion Shih Tzu.

glass_mermaid
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Oct 15, 2003, 6:10 AM

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did u buy mushu from the shop in taipan, collars and paws?

loveshitzu
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Oct 15, 2003, 5:07 PM

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yes, i do see ur pt of view and yes there r some who dun noe petcare at all and here in this forum it is where ppl like u can do much to educate them and all those 1st timers.

anyway, i respect ur views and can understand that some do really go overboard....

so u noe him... i got Jay from him. fancy getting to noe u here.

i do hope u will share some tips with us wrt health and nutrition.
bye...

loveshitzu

fuikiaw
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Oct 15, 2003, 5:28 PM

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no as i told u i bought her from a breeder directly in usj9. maybe if u tell me the real name on the cert of your doggie then we can tell whether they're related.

loveshitzu
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Oct 15, 2003, 6:21 PM

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Bobbie Linden, Bhe-Jei Maltese website is :

http://www.bhejei.com/groom-stains.htm

bye...

loveshitzu

Spencer
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Oct 18, 2003, 1:20 AM

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Hi fuikiaw...

I've just join this forum and after searching & reading all the forums, I've just notice that you have a shihtzu club.

I have 2 shih tzus... rock (male) - 12/9/2000 and jade (female) 16/12/2000. I'm from usj 6.

I have another friend who is not a breeder but owns 12 shih tzus.... too many names i can't remember.

We are all dog lovers. R all these members going for a gathering at Kota Kemuning this coming 26/9 (Sun) 9am? We will be there but we only will bring 4 shih tzus there.

Hope to see you guys around and share more stories.

Thanks & have fun with your furrrrrrrrry kids....

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