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luv_pipi
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Jun 8, 2006, 9:24 PM

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Need your pool on 2 cases below

C1: is it wrong to give always our retire show dog?

C2: Is it worng to give away our dog then later we hide the fact that we planed to give away our dogs and comdemn other people who do so?

t.q.



C1: It is ethically wrong but practically right.

In a person's mind, ex-show dogs have no much use after their DOG SHOW life cycle. So, "breed and show, after show then throw". This is the complete life cycle of many SHOW dogs.

What you should do? Reveal the reasons to others that you are giving your show dog away because he/she is no longer has any use. People will take it and accept the dog as it it. Don't come out with crappy reason like "my house has too many dogs to take care and i really sad to give my dog away". Well, if you can take care 5 same breed SHOW dogs, I don't understand why 1 more dog makes a different. If you really have many dogs to take care, let others share your burden.

C2: Never condemn anyone for any reason unless you have nothing better to do but to online 24/7 to dig out people's mistake and find all kind of opportunities to condemn others. God will forgive you for this.
Frown My PiPi does not have long fur Frown

Frown My PiPi does not win any awards in DoG Show Frown

Frown My PiPi is not a member of MKA Frown

Frown My PiPi does not attend obedience and agility training Frown

FrownMy pipi is a simple dog Frown




Kookee
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Jun 9, 2006, 1:11 AM

Post #27 of 146 (1226 views)
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Need your pool on 2 cases below

C1: is it wrong to give always our retire show dog?

C2: Is it worng to give away our dog then later we hide the fact that we planed to give away our dogs and comdemn other people who do so?

t.q.



C1: Show or no show......once it's yours, it should remain so. Furkids part of the family and well, I am seeking ways to prolong the lifespan of my furkids as much as possible and we do vow to take care of them, till death do us part. C2: An unfortunate scenario that is quite rampant in this forum. Having a group's hypocrite is always nice coz this is the person that everybody can target should they seek a sitting duck. But a coin has two faces, pray this never happen to you

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


luv_pipi
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Jun 9, 2006, 4:38 AM

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Wink Agree.

Pray all dogs lover!!
Frown My PiPi does not have long fur Frown

Frown My PiPi does not win any awards in DoG Show Frown

Frown My PiPi is not a member of MKA Frown

Frown My PiPi does not attend obedience and agility training Frown

FrownMy pipi is a simple dog Frown




MalCom
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Jun 9, 2006, 5:32 PM

Post #29 of 146 (1204 views)
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What pool is this, but what the hack just participate.

C1 - Partly right & Wrong. Since the dog already retire that mean he/she probably about 5 or 6 years old and have been with you for long period of time the dog definity very attach to the owner, So it is not advisible to give them away. Unless the owner have his/her own reason.

C2 - It is definity is wrong!!! Why this person trying to hide from other since he/she give away he/her dog? There is nothing wrong to let other know right?



C2 - It is definity is wrong!!! Why this person trying to hide from other since he/she give away he/her dog? There is nothing wrong to let other know right?

Then brother what are you trying to hide?

You posted a adoption post and then say you are not giving away the dogs and insisted that, but at the same time you ask you friends find the potential adoptor for you everywhere and even at other pets portal, and you just give away one of your dog, and the search is still continue. Yet you still deny this fact in this forum but actively looking for people adop you dog?

I am not against you anything but just that you have 2 faces. THis is very scary you know? A kid will be friegten by you and you did that before.

Nothing wrong to give away your dog if you can not take care of him.

Proven:

AMOS & JEWEL Up For Adoption


chrisong
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Jun 9, 2006, 5:46 PM

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Hi gln675,

Please don't hide in Malcom name you are the one with two faces.

Which dog I give away liao???? Please talk with fact!!!

All my dogs still with me!!! I haven't giving up anyone of of my dogs!!! If I did give up my dog I am sure will inform you & the forum members why i giving up my dogs to some else already!!! I will not hide it from publics.

You don't believe please can to my house and check for yourself or you can can this Saturday at Ikano/Ikea building to check on my dogs!!!


MalCom
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Jun 9, 2006, 8:37 PM

Post #31 of 146 (1186 views)
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You know and God knows.

Proven:

AMOS & JEWEL Up For Adoption


Kookee
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Jun 9, 2006, 8:45 PM

Post #32 of 146 (1180 views)
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Hi MalCom,

How do you define right to wrong? This issue is highly subjective, not to mention extremely sensitive, so do venture with caution. When a person is a hypocrite, he would garner disapproval and dislike among other forum members and hence, the subsequent halo effect, even when this so call hypocrite may meant well.

Cheerios!

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


chrisong
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Jun 9, 2006, 8:49 PM

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Everyone know me know, only people don't know me don't know.

So, don't simply accuse people that you don't know.

Cheers, GLNG675


Kookee
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Jun 9, 2006, 8:56 PM

Post #34 of 146 (1176 views)
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Hi gln675,

Please don't hide in Malcom name you are the one with two faces.

Which dog I give away liao???? Please talk with fact!!!

All my dogs still with me!!! I haven't giving up anyone of of my dogs!!! If I did give up my dog I am sure will inform you & the forum members why i giving up my dogs to some else already!!! I will not hide it from publics.

You don't believe please can to my house and check for yourself or you can can this Saturday at Ikano/Ikea building to check on my dogs!!!

Hi Chrisong,

I have followed with interest some of your threads. In this case, I find that you are being extremely defensive as you attempt to deflect whatever you felt that you have being misjustly accused.

But up to this point, maybe it's just me, but I don't see any names being mentioned. Forgive my ignorance, for due to my blurness, would somebody tell me since when this incident of giving away old (show) dogs happened and the same person also came down hard on others who did the same? Where's the thread, I would love to read it up as well. Ummmm...I do take anything that concern the welfare of a poor furkiddie to heart.

Cheerios!

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


chrisong
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Jun 9, 2006, 10:54 PM

Post #35 of 146 (1173 views)
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Hi KooKee,

Anyone will feel defensive if someone accuse you without any facts!!! If you in my shoe I am sure you will feel the same. Malcom (glng675) direct the post and attention to me, please check his posted message.

http://www.puppy.com.my/...?post=258117;#258117



CheersCool


luv_pipi
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Jun 9, 2006, 11:49 PM

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If I am not wrong, I saw one of your posting last year, 2005, to give away a pair of ST, mother and daughter, something like that.

When I see the thread, imediately the below statement POP UP to my mind.

First, "chrisong --> has many ST--> ST join competition--> chrisong always talk about DOG SHOW--> chrisong has breeding experience --> gave away ST for adoption........ " Therefore, the conclusion is Chrisong breed ST for DOG SHOW then later throw away the retired ST.

I am not the only person who has the same opinion. There are many threads leading by you, intentionally or unintentionally which are leading us to derive in this conclusion. If you think you are victimised in this case, you should explain. However, most of the time your answer sounds harsh to the opposite party and you are putting yourself on fire. This happen to me as well and i was pissed off..hahaha..Sly

Don't get me wrong, maybe you have a good intention but your wordings always give people the wrong impression. I also like to criticise people with all kind of sarcastic comments when i find the opportunity. But this does not mean i have hatred towards this particular individual. Afterall this is just a forum...life is bored if everyone speaks the same language SlySlySly
Frown My PiPi does not have long fur Frown

Frown My PiPi does not win any awards in DoG Show Frown

Frown My PiPi is not a member of MKA Frown

Frown My PiPi does not attend obedience and agility training Frown

FrownMy pipi is a simple dog Frown




Kookee
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Jun 10, 2006, 12:01 AM

Post #37 of 146 (1166 views)
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Hi Chrisong,

I see, I see! So that's the story. Oh dear! But understanding the circumstances, it might be for the best for both parties. It's also best option for the dog's own welfare and interest. The owner has being responsible enough to clearly state his case and I think that was noble.

On the other hand, I still could not understand how you were put in bad light over the issue. Your stand in the matter is purely of what and how you felt best. THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG THERE!

I may be deviating from this issue but I would like to know what everybody think of this. Sometimes, just sometimes, do you think that we have being thinking from the angle of a HUMAN BEING once too often? I for one is such owner that I worried myself sick whenever I have to leave my furkids for a while and I would opted not to take holiday or cut-short my holiday, get back after work on time etc etc just so that I can quickly see them, to know that they are ok. If you put yourself in the shoe of a dog, what would you act / think?

Btw, I am not taking sides in this issue. But at the same time, I'm sure everybody would appreciate a little bit of maturity, sensibility and discretion in approaching this subject. Finger-pointing, names calling shouldn't have any place here.

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


MalCom
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Jun 10, 2006, 12:05 AM

Post #38 of 146 (1165 views)
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Hi gln675,

Please don't hide in Malcom name you are the one with two faces.

Which dog I give away liao???? Please talk with fact!!!

All my dogs still with me!!! I haven't giving up anyone of of my dogs!!! If I did give up my dog I am sure will inform you & the forum members why i giving up my dogs to some else already!!! I will not hide it from publics.

You don't believe please can to my house and check for yourself or you can can this Saturday at Ikano/Ikea building to check on my dogs!!!



Oopppp! Forgot to answer this But I am not GLN675 sorry to disappoit you.

Proven:

AMOS & JEWEL Up For Adoption

(This post was edited by MalCom on Jun 10, 2006, 12:06 AM)


MalCom
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Jun 10, 2006, 12:19 AM

Post #39 of 146 (1162 views)
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Everyone know me know, only people don't know me don't know.

So, don't simply accuse people that you don't know.

Cheers, GLNG675



Helor brother

By calling me GLNG675 you already admitted that is you still giving away you dogs. DO you know that?

Just because your friend who is helping you looking for the suitable adoptor that get GLNG675 reply at that forum, so you tot I am GLNG675. So that is you lah, who still trying to give away your dog. hhahahahahhaha..........Have not tourche you you already admitted....hahaha......

Most of the dog onwer in this forum who know chinese will log in to that chinese forum also lah, so you can not hide the fact. what fact are you talking about? Your tail has come out lah and still pretend.Pirate

One give to your neighour hoh... and still got one to give away.

Another thing hoh, once when somebody posted a link to a chinese articler, you said you do not know how to read chinese, but in another post you said you are chinese educated so your english is not good. What rubish you are, Hypocrite and double faces?? talking fact?

Proven:

AMOS & JEWEL Up For Adoption


Kookee
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Jun 10, 2006, 12:54 AM

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If I am not wrong, I saw one of your posting last year, 2005, to give away a pair of ST, mother and daughter, something like that.

When I see the thread, imediately the below statement POP UP to my mind.

First, "chrisong --> has many ST--> ST join competition--> chrisong always talk about DOG SHOW--> chrisong has breeding experience --> gave away ST for adoption........ " Therefore, the conclusion is Chrisong breed ST for DOG SHOW then later throw away the retired ST.

I am not the only person who has the same opinion. There are many threads leading by you, intentionally or unintentionally which are leading us to derive in this conclusion. If you think you are victimised in this case, you should explain. However, most of the time your answer sounds harsh to the opposite party and you are putting yourself on fire. This happen to me as well and i was pissed off..hahaha..Sly

Don't get me wrong, maybe you have a good intention but your wordings always give people the wrong impression. I also like to criticise people with all kind of sarcastic comments when i find the opportunity. But this does not mean i have hatred towards this particular individual. Afterall this is just a forum...life is bored if everyone speaks the same language SlySlySly

Oh dear! Oh my! I have very unfortunately came across some controversial threads on Mr. Ong and have spent a bit of time reading them. Again, I have being oblivion and clueless to a lot of going-on in this forum (my head was in the cloud, made of Reyyee's and Kookee's fur).

As a observer to some of the discussion, I would have understand the provocation Mr. Ong may cause to the other forum members. Certainly, a lot of words can be put eloquently, more tactfully and with empathy. Sarcasm can be constructive if taken positively and rationale is better than being offensive. What happened to open mind and heart? And surely, a little bit of humour goes a long way.

I think I better retrieve back to my 'cloud' now before this gets 'political'.

Cheerios!!!

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


chrisong
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Jun 10, 2006, 2:10 AM

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Everyone know me know, only people don't know me don't know.

So, don't simply accuse people that you don't know.

Cheers, GLNG675



Helor brother

By calling me GLNG675 you already admitted that is you still giving away you dogs. DO you know that?

Just because your friend who is helping you looking for the suitable adoptor that get GLNG675 reply at that forum, so you tot I am GLNG675. So that is you lah, who still trying to give away your dog. hhahahahahhaha..........Have not tourche you you already admitted....hahaha......

Most of the dog onwer in this forum who know chinese will log in to that chinese forum also lah, so you can not hide the fact. what fact are you talking about? Your tail has come out lah and still pretend.Pirate

One give to your neighour hoh... and still got one to give away.

Another thing hoh, once when somebody posted a link to a chinese articler, you said you do not know how to read chinese, but in another post you said you are chinese educated so your english is not good. What rubish you are, Hypocrite and double faces?? talking fact?



Hi GLN675,

I don't even know there is a chinese forum. What you talking? Do you know how I know you MALCOM IS GLNG675? By observing your login date & time. Most of the time you will login in GLN675 after few min you log off you MALCOM login in a short while. As you know I most of the time in the forum. WHY YOU SO ANGRY??? IF YOU ARE NOT GLNG675 WHO ARE YOU??? WHY HIDDING YOUR IDENTITY???

Try to talk fact here OK!!! Give away to neighbour??? Which dog??? PLEASE TELL EVERYONE!!! I show you the fact not bullshit!!!

Yes I am chinese educated when I am at primary school (I only know simple chinese word), after that secondly school I enter malay school so chinese not that good. Now I don't evn know how to write & good in reading in chinese. Hope that answer your question.


chrisong
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Jun 10, 2006, 2:26 AM

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LUV_PIPI,

I did not hide that I did not give away adoption a pair of Silky (not retired show silky). Everyone in the forum know that. That thread still here in the forum and never been deleted. I been accuse everywhere in the forum say that I have connection with AMIN. See the thread now involve MingYang. AMIN deleted the thread is because their word to MingYang is too hard. Now MingYang been accuse got connection with AMIN.

New forum member I don't blame them because they still don't know head & tail. I don't care. This is my life with my lovely Silkies.

Human being tend to be like that back stabing other just to show other how great they are, but time will tell & I not going to continue with this people say they are dog lover what they did for their dog??? Breeding & selling them??? Dog figthing??? Looking for mating??? Selling dog in the forum without informing paying the Amin (Amin deleted their post)???

There are alot of peoples in this forum. Good & bad one. If people like to think I am a breeder (breeding dog, show dog & throw away retired dog) like them think what they like.

I ask them, which retired show dog I give away??? They will not give you the answer is because I don't give away my retired show dog or now they accuse me give away a dog to a neighbour. LOL I now ask them WHICH ONE??? Just name me which 5 dogs that I give away!!!

JOKERS. Hahahaha


chrisong
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Jun 10, 2006, 2:33 AM

Post #43 of 146 (1146 views)
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Hi Chrisong,

I see, I see! So that's the story. Oh dear! But understanding the circumstances, it might be for the best for both parties. It's also best option for the dog's own welfare and interest. The owner has being responsible enough to clearly state his case and I think that was noble.

On the other hand, I still could not understand how you were put in bad light over the issue. Your stand in the matter is purely of what and how you felt best. THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG THERE!

I may be deviating from this issue but I would like to know what everybody think of this. Sometimes, just sometimes, do you think that we have being thinking from the angle of a HUMAN BEING once too often? I for one is such owner that I worried myself sick whenever I have to leave my furkids for a while and I would opted not to take holiday or cut-short my holiday, get back after work on time etc etc just so that I can quickly see them, to know that they are ok. If you put yourself in the shoe of a dog, what would you act / think?

Btw, I am not taking sides in this issue. But at the same time, I'm sure everybody would appreciate a little bit of maturity, sensibility and discretion in approaching this subject. Finger-pointing, names calling shouldn't have any place here.



We all here in the forum just for the loves of the dogs, not pointing finger & name calling. That why you see alot of posted message being deleted here!!!

By looking at your message I can see you very love your dog. Because I;m feel the same as you. That why I already long time did not go for holiday even a short holiday trip. All I can do is enter my dogs in showring & doggie activities with them. That how I make my dog happy & live a meaningful life. Most people think enter dogshow or participating doggie activities is for winning but for me this is something I can do with my dogs at the sametimes the relationship with your dog with get closes.


luv_pipi
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Jun 10, 2006, 6:10 PM

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Chrisong, now it is clear la

But one thing i know people like to kacau you..hehehhe... including me..
Frown My PiPi does not have long fur Frown

Frown My PiPi does not win any awards in DoG Show Frown

Frown My PiPi is not a member of MKA Frown

Frown My PiPi does not attend obedience and agility training Frown

FrownMy pipi is a simple dog Frown




chrisong
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Jun 10, 2006, 6:33 PM

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I don't blame you because you don't know me & you are new in the forum.

So, you bring your pipi for this coming ppcom activities???

Cheers


luv_pipi
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Jun 11, 2006, 12:23 AM

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Sure bring my dog there la.. Good chance to criticise other dogs and the dog owners..hahah

You go and challenge those people who criticise you la..ask them come next week to settle all the "yan yan yuan yuan".

You got 5 dogs, won't loose one. But they all toy breed, my PiPi can eat them all up.
Frown My PiPi does not have long fur Frown

Frown My PiPi does not win any awards in DoG Show Frown

Frown My PiPi is not a member of MKA Frown

Frown My PiPi does not attend obedience and agility training Frown

FrownMy pipi is a simple dog Frown




simchi
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Jun 11, 2006, 12:51 AM

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wah you big bully hor , i'll summon fala to climb on top of your pipi !! Sly


Kookee
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Jun 11, 2006, 1:27 AM

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wah you big bully hor , i'll summon fala to climb on top of your pipi !! Sly

PiPi eats Mr. Ong's dogs?!? Fala climbs on top of PiPi?!? You, PiPi - may get indigestion, very bad idea.....You, Fala - so-o unladylike......How bout I lend you Kookee? She can make 'pancake' out of Mr. Ong's dog by sitting on them, all 5 at one time and she can make 'sandwich' of PiPi, kahkahkahkahkahkahkahkahkahkah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Want or not? Want or not? Offer! Offer! Rent one, free one.....for backup, you can get Reyyee...hahahahahahahhahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!

**Yogi Puiga-Yoga**


chrisong
Doggyman

Jun 11, 2006, 4:34 AM

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Wat la you. Every owner eyes on their furkid will always is the more beutiful wan. How can you criticise ppls dog & owner ler??? Hope to see you all there & see wat you want to criticise me, wife & my Silkies!!! KEKEKEKECool Before that day 18th June 2006. There have another doggie event at Ikano/Ikea. It will start at 4.00pm (open area between Ikea & Ikano - behind starbuck cafe). You want to come???

If I bring 5 Silkies out I think you need to help me liao. I only got 2 hand la. Summore I enter my girl on Sit Stay Command Competition ler. My wife handle two & you don't bring PIPI & help me handle my 1 more dog can ar??? Kekekeke


hazel92
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Jun 11, 2006, 8:11 AM

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C1:Yes. I feel that it is wrong to give away your retired show dog just because it is old. I myself have a dob which is a retired show dog and is 8 years plus..shex been living with us for about 7 years and we never breed her due to medical problems. Still, we kept her and never put her up for adoption as she is part of the family and has been living with us for a verii long time. I understand though tht most kennels do put up their retired dogs for adoption as they have to make space for the younger up-coming showdogs.

C2: Why must one condemn others?

Cheerio!!


(This post was edited by hazel92 on Jun 11, 2006, 8:16 AM)

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