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Kevin Chuan
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Aug 14, 2008, 5:14 PM

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Hi,

Welcome to the thread... AmBully and AmSaff makes perfect pets and also a guard dog. This breed don't simply barks, good temperement, fierce looking, macho look and etc...

Don't hesitate! Go and get 1 now... Wink


Kevin Chuan
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Aug 14, 2008, 5:20 PM

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Peng Yu,

I was in KL last 2 days, I did not arranged for meet up with you guys coz Si Peh Sian liao... I will be in KL again beginning next month and that will be a longer stay as I have to meet my buyers from Australia and China... Smile so... see you guys then...


OmgPuppy!
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Aug 16, 2008, 9:07 AM

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Big business la abang . . so busy Sly



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





stanleyee
K9 Maniac


Aug 17, 2008, 2:25 AM

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hi guys, lately dam buzy with my stuff.everyone seems like upgrading their bully la... u all wait for me.. i finished upgrading my ddb than i will upgrade my sausage than only my bully..Sly




I may not be the one who start the fight, but I will not hesitate to finished it ....

"expect the un-expected".....cheers..!!

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OmgPuppy!
Member


Aug 18, 2008, 2:54 AM

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Ur title really suite u la, Maniac . . So many dogs . .Haha
jkjk . .fast fast lo



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Aug 20, 2008, 7:13 AM

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Ur title really suite u la, Maniac . . So many dogs . .Haha
jkjk . .fast fast lo



To all my dearest member,

This thread has comes alive again...

OMGpuppy... we need APBT lover like you to promote the positive statement of the breed. Well done with your signature there... keep it up.

Stanlyee... don't worry brother, busy with ur stuffs first, I will c u after Merdeka... Wink

ERN... good to see u back active again peng yu... how the pups now? Smile


jinkazuma
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Aug 20, 2008, 7:39 AM

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Hi all Sifus here,

i am new here thus may have a lot of questions to ask hope you dont mind some stupid questions...

normally we looking at posts, ppl tend to specified APBT need to be socialize from young to prevent over-aggression or over-shy. however, will too much socialization from young for APBT will make the dog too friendly even to intruders and lack of territorial instinct (will not guard our house for example)?

Thanks for some pit point pit point Laugh


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OmgPuppy!
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Aug 20, 2008, 8:03 AM

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As wat i know, dun try to bring visitors to ur house to see ur pit lo. Let ur house be his terrotery ( spell like this arr ? ) And bring him out to the park or something to socialize him. And when stranger comes to ur house house ot his terrotery, then he will become fierce gua. my 2 cents la. Heres some notes that i copied from UKC website


The essential characteristics of the American Pit Bull Terrier are strength, confidence, and zest for life. This breed is eager to please and brimming over with enthusiasm. APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. Because most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression and because of its powerful physique, the APBT requires an owner who will carefully socialize and obedience train the dog. The breed's natural agility makes it one of the most capable canine climbers so good fencing is a must for this breed. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable. This breed does very well in performance events because of its high level of intelligence and its willingness to work.



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Aug 20, 2008, 8:12 AM

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Hi all Sifus here,

i am new here thus may have a lot of questions to ask hope you dont mind some stupid questions...

normally we looking at posts, ppl tend to specified APBT need to be socialize from young to prevent over-aggression or over-shy. however, will too much socialization from young for APBT will make the dog too friendly even to intruders and lack of territorial instinct (will not guard our house for example)?

Thanks for some pit point pit point Laugh



Hi jinkazuma,

If you are talking about guard dog... an APBT would not be a good one as this breed was bred for dog fighting decades ago. APBT are often not human aggressive... only dogs and animals.

But if you talking about a American Staffordshire Terrier this is another story as a AmStaff was rated as 1 of the top 10 guard dogs of the world... I remember I have post the article in the forum years back.

A American Bully also can be a good guard even though it was bred for it out look confirmations, as this breed carry the gene of a Old English Bulldog, it look much more macho then an AMStaff, wider chest and bigger head and heavier than staffy.

I love all the 3 breeds, and I own all these 3 breeds... can come to my house n visit them... Smile


jinkazuma
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Aug 20, 2008, 8:28 AM

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Thanks thanks Kevin for the clarification

i think i remember seeing the post you mentioned.

initially i thought that APBT and AmStaff are the same just some selective breeding for differences in appearance and also APBT is more for gaming and AmStaff more for showing. So when seeing description of "AmStaff being a good guard dog" i thought this applies to both AmStaff and APBT as well...

Great...i will give you a call when i am planning to take a visit to you Laugh


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rachelyy
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Aug 22, 2008, 9:14 PM

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Hi guys,

I am a fan of Bully, but very confused with the names , breed, lines of pitbull.....

some say there are pitbull showdogs, pitbull fighting, pitbull bully......n also with AST, i find them very very similar ....

anyways, is there anybody selling any pitbull bully or AST ? I have just got myself a bully for guard dog purpose.....since u guys are saying bully r non primarily good at that, anybody have a nice AST male ? :D

hereby i attach my bully pic :) meet MURDOC he is around 8 wks old, n btw issit normal for such a young pup to show gamesness ?? he is able to play tug of war with me !!! n really strong
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jinkazuma
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Aug 22, 2008, 10:41 PM

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Hi Rachelyy,

I'll let the experienced ppl comment on your doubts Tongue . when Kevin said AST is a better guard but not APBT. i think what he means is (APBT) American Pit Bull Terrier but not Pitbull bully. They are different.

You got yourself a nice dog there. May we know where and how much (rougly) you got your bully?

Any more pictures you can share. is it possible to share more pictures of your nice bully, want to have a clearer lookSly especially on the chest width, depth, head size, topline....kekekke....maybe ask too much.

Appreciate if you can shareBlush


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rachelyy
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Aug 22, 2008, 11:00 PM

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thanks Jinkazuma for nice compliments. Ya will take more clearer pics ....dat pic was from phone, n quite blur. Anyways....I thought bully is 1 of the pitbull line ? sorry but i'm very confused. Ya was reading so many threads in this forum....even going back to few yrs ago threads; some even say AST n Pitbull look the same....gosh then how exactly to tell wat is wat ?

i got mine for free...how much issit in the market ? this puppy was actually a house warming gift haha :D

I saw in some thread ....for bully is around 5k -6k ??!!! but AST is around 1k ?


jinkazuma
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Aug 23, 2008, 1:57 AM

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SmilePrevious post from Kevin,

1. Staffordshire Terrier (from UK) head smaller, size smaller about H17", W34pound, price around RM3500.00 to RM4000.00 depends on the marking, THIS IS THE ONLY MKA for staffordshire.

2. American Staffordshire Terrier (Crossed between Brirish Bull Dog, Staffordshire Terrier and maybe APBT) breed standard eye must be black, tail cannot be too long, H18 to 20" W38 to 40pound, head BIG. Price for this breed should be around RM1300.00 to RM1500.00 if the marking is nice, if not it should be around RM1K +-

3. APBT are oftenly seem in smaller head compare to AST, as the american breed APBT are for dog fighting, they do not want a big head APBT because this will make them too heavy, their Height is 17 to 19" and weight should not more than 36pound, price should be high if is from good blood line like Hammer Head, Jeep, Old American Red, Mid night, Chinaman and ETC around RM1800.00 to RM2000.00

4. Pit Bull Terrier, this is the largest amoung the above, their legs are longer but not too stout if compare to AST or APBT, this is the most common breed called as Pit BUll in Malaysia, the price for this dog should be around RM280.00 to RM400.00

5. American Staffordshire Bull Terrier, this is the smallest breed amoung all the mentioned breed... H15' to 16" and W30 to 32 pound, this breed is close to extinct in Malaysia, I know a friend from Taiping who has this breed both male and female but he already stop breeding this dog due to they are too old for breeding and no demand from the market. Price for this breed should be around RM1500.00 to RM1800.00 which I think is too high...

there is no Bully description here...better let the experienced to reply Smile


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OmgPuppy!
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Aug 23, 2008, 4:27 AM

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ABPT and AST looks like twins sometimes, but AST is more macho lo. ABPT workline one really look like vegetable dog ( some not all ). Both are also friendly dogs lo, to human or towards others animals. Depends on how the owner treat him only ma. Vege dog also can be extremely aggresive ma, right ? If u treat a dog as its master, it will do what u order and if u treat ur dog as its fren, it will die for u. My 2 cents



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





rachelyy
Novice

Aug 23, 2008, 7:12 AM

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so how much should a pitbull BULLy be ?


TTY
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Aug 23, 2008, 11:56 PM

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isnt the staffordshire bull terrier smaller?

American Bully seems to grow very muscular from what i see from the net...


OmgPuppy!
Member


Aug 24, 2008, 3:36 AM

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Bully ar . . depends on how much u willing to pay lo. 2k bully got, but when it grow up . . maybe look like bully , maybe look like staff lo. If u wan pure breed bully . . i think 5k and above gua.


Jinkazuma . . check out this website. I think u're going to like it since u're interested in gameline pits.

www.game-dog.com



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





OmgPuppy!
Member


Aug 24, 2008, 3:45 AM

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U want to buy a bully ? I can reco u to a website. Its full with pits breeder from thailand. But all the writing is in thai lo . . .Try to browse to the forum urself. Then u can see all the top quality and famous pits breeder in thai. They post their pups photo there too. But if u wan, then stand by at least 6k lo. i also got my pup from there. If u wan find local bully breeder i also can look for u ar. . . if u're sincere to get one, then buzz me at /v\@xi$ 2-823-5-88 (017). Heres the thai website. www.ipitbulldog.com



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





ERN
K9 Maniac


Aug 25, 2008, 6:29 AM

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In Reply To
Ur title really suite u la, Maniac . . So many dogs . .Haha
jkjk . .fast fast lo



To all my dearest member,

This thread has comes alive again...

OMGpuppy... we need APBT lover like you to promote the positive statement of the breed. Well done with your signature there... keep it up.

Stanlyee... don't worry brother, busy with ur stuffs first, I will c u after Merdeka... Wink

ERN... good to see u back active again peng yu... how the pups now? Smile



peng yu

me actually come in almost everyday. but some times to check out the latest conversation only, no really have time to "talk". spend more time to get information on other things.

my AST puppies are very healthy and am expecting good feactures from them. Since there are only 2 in the litter they have better share on the nutrition.

now at 19days but already 1.5kg (F) and 1.6Kg(M).

Frown

View my photo album

last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

http://s56.photobucket.com/...%20Zeus%20N%20Shiki/

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/ERN2/Dogs


TTY
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Aug 27, 2008, 10:21 PM

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any idea where i can get preferably a staffordshire terrier puppy? or AST?

want a smaller dog...have 2 retrievers and a husky at home

the American bully seems to grow a bit too beefed up for me looking at the pictures i google


rachelyy
Novice

Aug 27, 2008, 10:33 PM

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help help....my APBT BULLY is really terrorizing my house....once i let him out....starts chewing here n there......even when he plays with me....very rough...loves biting n scratching on my bodyparts :(( very painful le

the point is...he is currently only 2 months old......n pooing every hour almost......n eats alot......gosh....i wonder how much longer will he continue with his habit :(


OmgPuppy!
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Aug 28, 2008, 2:16 AM

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Puppy is like this de la, same like small kid also, when they're young, they run around in da house like headless chicken. [Sly



Dead Game and Tryin' to Scratch...
Give me victory or give me death,
I will make history and gain your respect.
Take my lesson, or take my life,
Triumph is blemished in the absence of strife.
I have great pride, for I am unequaled.
Win, lose, or tie, there won't be a sequal.
Its unexplainable and seldom viable,
but I am dead game and thats undeniable...





jinkazuma
Novice


Aug 29, 2008, 6:29 AM

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Since we 'know' some tai kors here...sure they will help you to get your Staff or AmStaff. just wait for their reply...they are busy now.....Unsure


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ERN
K9 Maniac


Aug 29, 2008, 6:33 PM

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any idea where i can get preferably a staffordshire terrier puppy? or AST?

want a smaller dog...have 2 retrievers and a husky at home

the American bully seems to grow a bit too beefed up for me looking at the pictures i google



I have 1M1F AST at 24days, only 1 Female left. now learning how to walkSly

MA-X-IS-017@381-3251

Frown

View my photo album

last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

http://s56.photobucket.com/...%20Zeus%20N%20Shiki/

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/ERN2/Dogs

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