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Stratton
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Aug 18, 2005, 6:20 PM

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excuse me .....never said that, however not an expert compared to you guys - just a typical lady that pups for adoration.

well there isn't a registrar for bloodline globally - name me one if you know any. therefore merely a verbal claim. even reputable kennels could fake a story out - so to make sale. if given a pup of jeep generation, what is your assurance level? the most i guess is self-printed certification which is junk worth.


Stratton
Dog Kichi


Aug 18, 2005, 6:45 PM

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geez, you still dont get it...... how to do homework? ask around? how many level of generations and owners? end of day it still come out in verbal claim.....what is the source reliability? all are stories - wasting time. although you satisfied after hearing it but truthfully there is no identification paper.

you mentioned blackjack and frisco? what evidence provided during the purchase? any bulldogs can be named these big names.

breeding program - what kind of doe you run to hit optimum or to avoid uncompatible? frankly those are blind breedings just to please the popularity.


APPK
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Aug 19, 2005, 8:42 AM

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WE ARE NEVER EXPERTS AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE BUT SHARING OF KNOWLEDGE ,YES.NO ONE SETS UP A REGISTRAR FOR BLOODLINES BUT REGISTRATION OF DOGS SUCH AS THE ADBA OR AKC IS AVAILABLE.WHY IS THIS ADBA OR AKC DOING ALL THIS?BASICALLY TO KEEP TRACK,AND WHY UPDATING OF CHAMPIONSHIPS AND GR.CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THEIR PAPERS?WELL,TO KEEP TRACK OF PERFORMANCE AND IT MIGHT BE USEFUL AS AN INFORMATION FOR BREEDING PROGRAMMES.OH YES,A LOT OF REPUTABLE KENNELS ARE FAKING THEIR PAPERS ,BUT WHAT ARE WE TO DO?YOU MENTIONED THAT DON'T GET CHEATED WHEN PURCHASING THIS BREED..HOW?THROUGH REPUTABLE DOGMEN?HONEST DOGMEN OR KENNELS?YOU KNOW HOW I GOT SOME OF MY HONEST BULLDAWGS?I STARTED IN THIS GAME SINCE 1986 AND HAVE LOST SINCE THEN AND NEVER WON TILL 1997.SINCE 1997,WE WON IN ROWS LOCALLY, WON AND LOST A FEW INTERNATIONALLY.HOW WE DID IT?WE GOT 1 HONEST BULLDAWG OUT OF EVERY 5 WE IMPORTED,WORKING REAL HARD OUT OF IT BASING THE BREEDING PROGRAMME ON THE BEST WE HAVE.NO KENNELS NOR INDIVIDUAL HAS THE BEST DOGS,THEY CAN ONLY HAVE THEIR OWN BEST.O.STEVEN'S HOMER IS GAME BUT JEEP BEAT HIM ,WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO THE MATCH BETWEEN JEEP AND K.J'S CH.SMOKIN JOE IF IT TOOK PLACE.IT IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE FOR A GR.CH.SHIP MATCH BUT K.J WAS ARRESTED AT THAT TIME AND IT DIDN'T HAPPENED.MOST DOGMEN SAID THAT IT WILL BE A REAL GOOD MATCH OF THE CENTURY BUT IT'S GONNA COST ONE OF THEM'S LIFE.LUCKY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

WHAT ASSURANCE THAT WILL BE GIVEN TO US IF GIVEN A PUP OF CERTAIN BLOODLINE GENERATION?I WOULD TAKE A RISK ON THAT ASSURANCE,DEPENDING BY WHOM IT'S INSURED.IT IS TRUE THAT ALL THESE PAPERS ARE JUNKS NO MATTER SELF PRINTED OR ENDORSED BY REPUTABLE ORGANISATION BUT BACK TO SQUARE ONE,I WILL BASE ON THESE TRASH , HOPEFULLY PRODUCE VALUEABLE TRASH TO TRASH THOSE BRANDED NAMES OUT THERE.KEEP ON SCRATCHIN...


APPK
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Aug 19, 2005, 9:45 AM

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I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS BREED,HOW DO I DO MY HOMEWORK?ASK RICHARD F.STRATTON,ALMOST ALL SERIOUS DOGMEN WILL RISK THEIR TIME SEARCHING,ASKING NO MATTER HOW MANY LEVELS OF GENERATION NOR BREEDERS,THIS IS OUR INTEREST AND WE NEVER FEEL IT'S IMPOSSIBLE OR A WASTE OF TIME.IT IS TRUE THAT THERE IS NO IDENTIFICATION PAPERS FOR THE APBTS BUT WHAT ELSE DO YOU SUGGEST HOW THIS BREED DIFFER FROM OTHERS?APBTS DOES NOT HAVE A STANDARD CONFORMATION NOR LOOKS SUCH AS THE ROTTWEILER OR THE DOBERMANN DOGS.IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT DOGMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES TAKING THE EFFORT TO KEEP TRACK ON THIS BREED AND IT'S ALSO THE OLDTIMERS EFFORT WHICH LEFT VALUEABLE TRAILS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO COME.

GR.CH.BLACKJACK,FRISCO..BIG NAME?THEY ARE NEVER BIG NAMES FOR ME.I HAVE DYNAMITES FROM FRISCO AND WE HAVE CURS AS A FAIR SHARE SO IT'S NEVER A BIG DEAL TO ME ,I WILL BASE ON THE GOOD ONES AND I WILL GIVE AWAY THOSE CURS AS FAMILY DOGS AS I NEVER CULL MY DOGS.WHAT EVIDENCE PROVIDED DURING PURCHASE?YOU CAN ALWAYS SEE THE SIRE AND DAM HOOKED TOGETHER,THE PUPS CAME OUT OF THE DAM ON THE SPOT AT THE BREEDERS YARD BUT STILL IF HE IS NOT HONEST, THERE IS ALWAYS A WAY TO SWEEP YOU OFF YOUR FEET.SO,ARE YOU READY TO TAKE THE RISK?I ALWAYS GIVE A SIMPLE TIP TO NEW COMERS,IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO TAKE A RISK THEN FORGET IT.I GIVE PERSONAL GUARANTEES TO POTENTIAL BUYERS,IF THEY GOT A CUR DOG FROM MY YARD,I WILL COMPENSATE THEM WITH A PUP FREE FROM THE NEXT BREEDING.WHAT ELSE COULD YOU GUARANTEE?THIS IS THE BEST,IT COULD DO WONDERS,IT WILL MAKE YOU A RICH MAN,ARE NEVER A GUARANTEE FROM US.

BREEDING PROGRAMMME TO HIT OPTIMUM AND TO AVOID COMPATIBLES?HOW DO YOU DO THAT?O.STEVENS,J.CRENSHAW,B.WALLACE,J.P.COLBY,H.HEINZL AND A WHOLE LOT MORE DIDN'T REACH THAT STATUS,DID THEY?THEY CAN ONLY BREED THE BEST THEY CAN TO COMPETE IN THE FAST LANE COMPETITION TODAY AND TO SHOW THE REST WHAT THEY HAVE OFFERED. THAT'S WHAT ALL DOGMEN THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IS DOING TODAY,AT THEIR BEST.

BLIND BREEDINGS TO PLEASE THE POPULARITY-AIN'T THIS A HOBBY?THIS HOBBY AIN'T GONNA PLEASE ONLY THE FOLKS OUT THERE AND APPK HAVE NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION TO PLEASE ANYONE BUT TO ONLY OUR SATISFACTION.ANYWAY FOR YOUR INFO,THIS BREED IS NOT ONLY DYING IN YOUR PART OF COUNTRY,OURS TOO.IT'S NOT THAT POPULAR HERE AND WE WOULD BE FOOLS TO THINK THAT WE SHOULD PLEASE THE POPULARITY WHEN WE IMPORT A DOG RANGE FROM USD5000-USD15000 AND TO PLEASE ANYONE WHO EXPECTS A PUP FOR USD100?IN MALAYSIA ,80% APBT LOVERS EXPECT THE PRICE OF A PUP TO BE AROUND USD100 AND ONLY 20% IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT QUALITY DOESN'T COME CHEAP.IT'S NICE SHARING THOUGHTS WITH SOMEONE LIKE YOU,JUST LIKE SOME OF MY FRIENDS OVER YOUR COUNTRY.YOU ARE A REAL DETAIL AND A COMBATIVE PERSON SO FOR EXAMPLE,IF YOU ARE A REPUTABLE DOGMAN,WHY SHOULDN'T I TAKE THE RISK ON YOUR BREEDINGS , TRUST YOUR WORDS AND LET THE DOG WALK IT'S TALK.ALONG THE JOURNEY OF ANY PATH ,WE MEET PROS AND CONS.KEEP ON SCRATCHIN......


Stratton
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Aug 19, 2005, 11:36 PM

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crap! smokin joe of texas against jeep? 2 different categorical group. smokie joe was 65 lbs and jeep 43 lbs, helloooooooo......what joke are you crackingggg? in addition both are almost a decade age gap......do you know which year smokie joe was born and which year jeep was buried?


Stratton
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Aug 20, 2005, 12:36 AM

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breeding, take the best male and bitch, with gut feel. unlike your style, study, dig bloodline history (without evidence) - no wonder you only produce good bulldogs....with replacement guarantee. the probability to get outstanding bulldogs in a litter is less than 10%. but you are top of the world 100% .......guarantee scheme.

could comprehend now why you promote your breeding (great combination, high winning chance and whatever business attraction tricks you could think of) before the pups are born. all these are just packaging for dollar exchange.

you are such a paradigmatic person, might end up with little success (but been magnified to look great) in bulldog field - dont take it hard, just a piece of advice.

i dont have any bulldogs to offer you for time being - maybe when i return to states if i could find opportunity, cheers.


APPK
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Aug 20, 2005, 9:53 AM

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HELOOO...CRAP?WHOSE SMOKIN JOE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?PLEASE MAKE A DOUBLE CHECK ON K.JOHNSON'S SMOKIN JOE 43lbs(4xW)SIRED BY ROCCA'S QUINCY OUT OF ROCCA'S CHERRY BOMB,WON HIS 4th MATCH OVER G.HURT'S TIGER IN 2HR 47MIN(A MATCH NEAR TO THE TIME FRAME WHEN HOMER MATCHED INTO JEEP)BOTH SMOKIN JOE AND JEEP ARE WELL TO THEIR RIPE RETIREMENT AGE AT THAT TIME BEFORE THEY TRY TO GET A CONTRACT DONE AND JEEP DIED AUTUMM 1990,YOU SAID THEIR AGE WERE A DECADE APART...BULLSHIT! .DID I MENTIONED THAT THE MATCH HAPPENED?I CLEARLY MENTIONED THAT IT DIDN'T...AND LUCKY IT DIDN'T,DIDN'T I?DO YOU KNOW WHAT?DO YOU BY THE CHANCE KNOW FRANK C.ROCCA?IF THIS STORY IS A CRAP ,THEN FRANK C. ROCCA IS THE BIGGEST CRAP OF ALL..AND SINCE I HAVE DOGS FROM HIM,THAT MAKES ME A CRAP TOO...KEEP ON SCRATCHIN!


APPK
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Aug 20, 2005, 11:15 AM

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DON'T GET ME WRONG,I DON'T NEED ANY DOGS FROM YOU,NO OFFENSE,WHAT I MEANT WAS AN EXAMPLE...LOOK BACK TO THAT THREAD AGAIN.

ME HAVING 10 EXCUSES AND NOT HAVING 1 GOOD REASON?GO BACK THROUGH THIS FORUM AND POINT OUT 1 EXCUSE I MADE.THERE IS NONE CAUSE I HAVE NOT 1 GOOD REASON TO MAKE 10 EXCUSES,MAM.I AM SOMEONE WHO DON'T OWE ONE A LIVIN AND I DON'T GIVE EXCUSES TO ANY DOGMEN AND WHAT MORE THAT YOU ARE NOT..

DIGGING BLOODLINES(WITH NO EVIDENCE)?TO YOU BLOODLINES ARE NOT A IMPORTANT FACTOR AND THAT DOUBTS YOU KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT BLOODLINES SO,WHY BRING UP THIS SUBJECT?FEEL FREE TO STICK ON TO YOUR PRINCIPLES OF 'NON BLOODLINE DOG BEATING THE BLOODLINED DOG' BUT I AIN'T JOINING THE ICE-AGE THEORY.

ME PROMOTING BEST COMBINATION BREEDINGS WITH REPLACEMENT GUARANTEE,BUSSINESS ATTRACTION TRICKS,PACKAGING FOR DOLLAR EXCHANGE?OH MAN,YOU ARE MAKING THIS FORUM TO A STOCK EXCHANGE MARKET VALUATION,THE BEAR DON'T HUG AND THE BULL DON'T CHARGE HERE.MY BREEDINGS ARE DONE WITH MY 'NON-EVIDENCE' EFFORT AND ONLY AS A PART OF MY LIFE HOBBY.I DON'T HIDE AND I SPEAK OPENLY IN THIS FORUM,WHEN I TAG A PRICE ON THESE PUPS WITH A PERSONAL GUARANTEE,THE BUYERS WHOSOEVER ARE WELCOME TO TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.THIS IS NOT MY FIELD NOR BUSSINESS.PACKAGING FOR DOLLAR EXCHANGE?FULL OF CRAP..HOW MUCH COULD MAJORITY OF MALAYSIANS EXPECT TO PAY FOR A PUP?USD200?USD 200 WITH A PERSONAL GUARANTEE AND YOU WOULD LIKE PUT IT ON THE MARKET VALUATION?I DON'T BREED AS I LIKE AND I DON'T SELL THOSE PUPS FOR USD200 ,MY PRICE IS STIFF..BECAUSE I HAVE THE PACKAGE FOR THE DOLLAR EXCHANGE..BUSSINESS ATTRACTION TRICKS?WHO NEEDS ONE?I DO NOT KNOW THE QUALITY OF THE PUPS EVEN BEFORE THEY ARE BORN?THIS IS HOMEWORK!THESE PUPS ARE FROM REPEATED BREEDINGS AND I EXPECT THEM TO BE OF THAT QUALITY AND IF NOT I REPLACE THEM FOR FREE..WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL..AS I SAID THEY CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.GUARANTEE SCHEME?IF THIS HOBBY IS GOING TO BE A MULTI MILLION INDUSTRY,WHY NOT?WE ARE STILL DREAMING OF THAT DAY TO COME..

YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED US ON THE TOPIC HOW ANYONE IS NOT GOING TO BE CHEATED ON PURCHASING OF THIS BREED?I ANSWERED EVERY QUESTIONS OF YOURS..

SERIOUSLY..DO YOU BY THE WAY KNOW OF OR HEARD OF STP KENNEL'S GR.CH.SAMSON AND FRANK C.ROCCA'S HAMMERHEAD(A FAMOUS SON OF ROCCA'S STONEWALL OUT OF ROCCA'S MIDGE),.?DO YOU THINK THEY ARE FAMOUS?I HAVE DOGS OUT OF THESE TWO BIGSHOTS,DO YOU THINK MY DOGS EARN THE ASSURANCE SINCE THEY COME FROM REPUTABLE BREEDERS?SERIOUSLY..WE NEED YOUR OPINION..NO OFFENSE AND KEEP ON SCRATCHIN...


Stratton
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Aug 20, 2005, 6:06 PM

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there has been only one smokin joe on earth by geronimo and lukan, another one that sound close - smoky joe of hardin.

dude, more you compose more i discover your intellectual level especially about Rocca. you are pure boaster - bet you are not full time onto this field but just a puppy traders with little experience in dog fight (again been magnified to look great in the eyes of local).


Stratton
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Aug 20, 2005, 7:03 PM

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oh yeah...in next forum promoting your superb fast lane offspring before tested worse is not even born. isnt that for business purpose, pre-advert? give me a break....all just excuses to make yourself good.

afterall is just gut feeling - could you tell which bloodline could not merge with another?...just stories. you are blind and leading another blind. tell me your doe of the repeated breeding that you are so convinced the outcome is gonna good again.

not to be cheated - simply test the bulldog (at least a year old) and on the spot acquire it. let the potential reveals itself, not the owner verbally promoting the quality, such you would command higher bargain. must test at least few dogs, there you have options to choose. forget sugar and spice about how great the parents are, or during puppyhood. just assess current performance.

spot the one that has ability to get bloody out after an hour, basis.


Stratton
Dog Kichi


Aug 20, 2005, 8:45 PM

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dude, since you dealt with stp before, what does it spell for? what is their contact?

why samson? lukane (of mayday and xuxa) was recorded better dog for stp.

stonewall did not own by rocca, it was garner - stonewall aka travis....do you know?

which bulldogs exactly imported over? name me...give me your local pic, i can verify whether or not authentic.


Stratton
Dog Kichi


Aug 21, 2005, 5:12 AM

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dude, your phrase 8/19 "I WILL BASE ON THESE TRASH , HOPEFULLY PRODUCE VALUEABLE TRASH TO TRASH THOSE BRANDED NAMES OUT THERE." & your phrase 8/20 "THIS IS HOMEWORK!THESE PUPS ARE FROM REPEATED BREEDINGS AND I EXPECT THEM TO BE OF THAT QUALITY AND IF NOT I REPLACE THEM FOR FREE."

hope and expect are 2 different vocabulary - one nite you were just hoping and nite after you expect the offspring to be good because studies were carried out prior....you are intraconflicting yourself.......hope and expect are distinctively different in definiton. your "expect" word sounds so confidence that all you pups are potentially calibre - free replacement if happen not to be. but your word "hope" means like if i would be lucky...


APPK
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Aug 21, 2005, 9:01 AM

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I HAVE ALREADY CLARIFY WHICH SMOKIN JOE WAS THAT BUT YOU INSISTS ON ANOTHER 65 POUNDER,WHAT'S THE POINT?IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR 43lbs DOG THEN IT WILL NOT BE THE WHOOPING..65 POUNDER...WELL,IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS 2 SMOKIN JOE OF YOURS AND YOU FEEL ON TOP OF THE WORLD,FINE WITH ME..ONLY 2 SMOKIN JOES ON THIS EARTH?CRAP...

ABOUT ROCCA..I AM A PURE BOASTER?IN WHAT SENSE?PLEASE POINT OUT...

ME NOT BEING FULL TIME IN THIS BREED AND PUPPY PEDDLAR MYSELF WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IN DOGFIGHTING?BEING FULL TIME WILL MAKE ME A BROKE FOOL BUT ARE YOU?PLS ANSWER THIS.A PUPPY PEDDLAR MYSELF AND WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE IN DOGFIGHTING, YOU SAID..I AM PROUD TO BE A PUPPY PEDDLAR IN MY OWN INTERESTS AND CAPABILITY.I DON'T MIND AT ALL ANYONE SAYING ABOUT MY KNOWLEDGE..YOU KNOW WHY?BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO SHUT THEM UP IS TO SEE THEM IN THE PIT..BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO SHUT MY BIG MOUTH IS...BEAT ME ..CAUSE IF I WIN..PEOPLE ARE THERE TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES.ME A BIG BOASTER?THERE ARE DOGMEN I KNOW OF THAT ARE WATCHING THIS FORUM,MALAYSIA,THAILAND, PHILLIPINE OR WHEREVER..WELL,I DON'T SEE ANYONE SHOOTING ME DOWN.. SCRATCH ON..


APPK
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Aug 21, 2005, 9:38 AM

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YES,PRE-ADVERT IS FOR BUSSINESS PURPOSE..WHAT ELSE IS IT FOR..?NOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BLOODLINES..?YOU CLAIM PAPERS,BLOODLINES,MY DOGS,MY PUPS,MY BUSSINESS ARE ALL RUN BY THE CRAP ENTERPRISE..BUT NOW TELL US HOW TO GET A NON BLOODLINED DOG WITH HI PERCENTAGE OF WINNING CHANCES OVER BLOODLINED DOGS,HOW TO AVOID CRAP PAPERS,CRAP BLOODLINES,HOW TO AVOID CRAP PUPS AND AVOIDING CRAP PUPPY PEDDLARS LIKE ME?HELOOO...WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING HERE IS I AM A PUPPY PEDDLAR SO WHAT'S THE POINT TO SHOW US HOW TO CHOOSE YOUNG 1 YR OLD PROSPECTS.IT'S REAL EASY TO CHOOSE FROM PROSPECTS..BUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS HOW POTENTIAL INNOCENT BUYERS GOING TO DO TO AVOID PUPPY PEDDLARS LIKE ME IN BUYING 'PUPPIES' SO THAT THEY CAN FINALLY GRADUATE FROM ST.NICHOLAS SCHOOL FOR THE BLIND?HOW THE NEWBIES IS GOING TO GET THE ASSURANCE ON GETTING A WELL BRED 'PUPPY'?PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ON THIS ISSUE..

TEST A PUP OF A YEAR OLD TO GET BLOODY OUT FOR AN HOUR,BASIS?LET OTHER DOGMEN OUT THERE DO THEIR JUDGEMENT..JOKER

YEAH,GOOD IDEA..VISIT A COUPLE OF FARMS ASKING THEM BREEDERS TO ROLL THE HELL OUT OF THEM DOGGS 1 BY 1 AS IF A BEAUTY PAGEANT,ENJOY THE ROLLS,AFTER 3-4 ROLLS WHICH COMPRISE OF 6-8 DOGS AND THEN PICK ONE AND ASK...HOW MUCH IS THIS SIR..CAN'T I HAVE FOR LESS...CAUSE I HAVE ONLY USD500 IN MY POCKET AND I HAVE TO LAST THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK LIVIN ON BREAD AND WATER.LET DOGMEN OUTTHERE JUDGE THIS..MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT ON YOUR OWN..DO YOU TRY THIS ON YOUR PUPS TOO..CAUSE WHAT YOU CLAIM IS THAT YOU CAN ONLY HANDLE THEM PUPS OF YOURS ONLY.


APPK
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Aug 21, 2005, 10:23 AM

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YOU ARE FUNNY AND I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW MUCH..WELL EQUIPPED FROM THE BOOK ..I GUESS.

WHY GR.CH.SAMSON AND NOT LUKANE?BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE DOGS FROM LUKANE,THAT'S WHY.WHY SHOULD I DISCUSS MATTERS WHICH DON'T INVOLVE ME?STP?YOU KNOW BOB AND JOHN THAT WELL?YOU GET TO CONTACT THEM RIGHT NOW..?YOU HAVE THEIR SITE..?GET UPDATED!

THIS PARTICULAR DOG,F.ROCCA'S STONEWALL(SIRED BY B&S'S GR.CH. SNAKE OUT OF CRENSHAW'S MISSY) IS ACTUALLY OWNED BY TM.GARNER ALL THE TIME?PLEASEE...YOU ARE GETTING WORST WITH YOUR JOKES AND NOBODY AIN'T NO LAUGHING NOMORE.

WHAT I ASKED WAS,HAVE YOU HEARD OF STP'S GR.CH.SAMSON AND F.ROCCA'S HAMMERHEAD?YOU ANSWERED THAT WHY SAMSON AND NOT LUKANE?YOUR NEXT ANSWER WAS THAT STONEWALL AIN'T ROCCA'S DOG.HELOOO...THERE?!WHAT I ASKED WAS HAVE YOU HEARD OF THESE 2 DOGS AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ASSURANCE GIVEN BY THESE REPUTABLE DOGMEN..SINCE YOU CLAIMED IT TO BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID TRASH PAPERS,TRASH DOGS TRASH BREEDINGS.MOST OF ALL HOW COULD I KNOW THAT THESE DOGS FROM SAMSON AND HAMMERHEAD IS TRUE?I HAVE A GRANDSON OF SAMSON NAMED COCAIN(1xW) AND GRANDSONS OF HAMMERHEAD,DO YOU THINK THEY ARE CRAP BREEDINGS OF MINE?

PLEASE DO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS AND I WILL DO MY FAIR SHARE ANSWERING WHAT STP STANDS FOR..


APPK
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Aug 21, 2005, 11:03 AM

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REMEMBER THE VOCABULARY ON THE WORDS 'EXPECT' AND 'HOPE' THAT YOU MENTIONED.IT'S A BIG DEAL?I CAN HOPE ALL I WANT AND EXPECT WHAT I WANT BUT THESE ARE STILL CRAP DOGS THAT I OWNED,WHAT ELSE CAN I EXPECT FROM TRASH DOGS..RIGHT?IF I SAID THAT I WOULD 'HOPEFULLY' PRODUCE VALUEABLE TRASH AND 'EXPECT' MY TRASH TO TRASH THE BRANDED NAMES OUT THERE,DO YOU THINK THAT MY TRASH WILL COME IN NAIVE AND NAKED DOWN THERE PIT...TRASHED BY YOU?THERE AND THEN YOU WILL FINALLY 'EXPECT' TO BEAT ME ON YOUR WAY TO THE PIT,THEN IN THE PIT,YOU WILL PRAY 'HOPEFULLY' THAT YOUR PRIDE WILL MAKE IT THROUGH PASSING MY TRASH.IF YOU WIN,CONGRATULATIONS,YOU WILL FEEL 'RELIEVED' CAUSE YOU WON'T GET AN EASY WIN.I DON'T MEAN YOU IN THE PIT..IT'S AN EXAMPLE.I AM INTRACONFLICTED?I DON'T GET CONFUSED EASILY..I GET A CHALLENGE..CONTRACT IS RIGHT N ACCEPTABLE..PUT A FORFEIT AND LET'S WALK THE TALK..TALK IS A WASTE OF TIME..


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 6:50 PM

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now you have admitted that you do advertisement for business purpose, proclaiming your unborn pups are superb.

1) share out your doe of the breeding program you had on your repeated breeding.

2) tell me what is stp for, i strongly believe you dont know - you sure you bought dogs from them or just another story making?

3) you bought cocain from who? which year? also name me cocain's parents.

4) hammerhead's grandsons? name all, and which year you bought them? give parents details and with who in stp you talked to.


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 7:02 PM

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your phrase 8/19 "WE GOT 1 HONEST BULLDAWG OUT OF EVERY 5 WE IMPORTED." please give me all the details, name, parents, which kennel, year and etc. there i am able to sense the truth.


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 8:31 PM

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check this site http://www.allegiancekennel.com/lector.htm, to prove stonewall and midge (producers of hammerhead) were long to garner and becker respectively instead of rocca, also its real name travis. it called after rocca was for commercial reason.

i want you to show me in any site if your claim is true that smokin joe is 43 lbs, can you? i have site that can prove 65 lbs. give me the link to substantiate your statement.


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 8:51 PM

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your phrase 8/21 "BEING FULL TIME WILL MAKE ME A BROKE FOOL." and your phrase on 8/19 "ALMOST ALL SERIOUS DOGMEN WILL RISK THEIR TIME SEARCHING,ASKING NO MATTER HOW MANY LEVELS OF GENERATION NOR BREEDERS,THIS IS OUR INTEREST AND WE NEVER FEEL IT'S IMPOSSIBLE OR A WASTE OF TIME." dude you are killing yourself with this silly contradiction.

i knew you are just casual into this field, but at least better than me, i am judicature personnel by profession and into my law doctorate at this point of time.

please introduce me all the dogmen here which from various land of asia, you claimed again. i will address them.


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 9:27 PM

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i said on 8/20 "spot the one that has ability to get bloody out after an hour." and you claimed (on 8/21) i said "TEST A PUP OF A YEAR OLD TO GET BLOODY OUT FOR AN HOUR." those words are not the same, do you know?

i may sound joking but that is the way to acquire good bulldogs for pit competition. if you don't, you may end up "I STARTED IN THIS GAME SINCE 1986 AND HAVE LOST SINCE THEN AND NEVER WON TILL 1997............WE GOT 1 HONEST BULLDAWG OUT OF EVERY 5 WE IMPORTED...........I EXPECT QUALITY ANJIN KAN,RAMBUT KUNING AMERIKA HANTAR QUALITY MACAM KUCIN BAGI SAYA." dude, think about it carefully. i am not against you, but just finger your weakness.......you will realise it as your experience matures along the journey.

you want good bulldog, you have to pay the price........not usd500, at least thousands.

for young fan, never be too ambitious. the bulldog world is new to you, start humbly, go watch pit competition as many as possible, you will then learn which kind of wrestling style to like. see for yourself the performance of the shortlisted bulldogs you interested at the pit and make up a decision. never be influenced by anyone be it your close one or expert, just trust your instinct. you would never regret. regardless whether or not bloodline related - doesnt really matter, so long it performs and you witness it, pick it.


Stratton
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Aug 21, 2005, 10:43 PM

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i know their website, and even their numbers. you don't know, right? awaiting to see how you gonna answer me stp spell for. can verify every single dogs you claimed you bought - give me all the details.

what is "SIRED BY B&S'S GR.CH. SNAKE OUT OF CRENSHAW'S MISSY"? not b&s dude, brabhams is correct owner. or you have your very owned version for b&s? you need the web link from me to prove that you are boasting?

samson (of little george and midnight by phil) was good, but to me lukane would be better preference if to pick from stp. anyway you have no idea of lukane, forget it. did i get correct of the samson producers - let me know if you require the link to prove. since you crazy over samson, why not you tell me all the matches of samson - with whom and how long of each match?


Stratton
Dog Kichi


Aug 21, 2005, 11:17 PM

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"I GET A CHALLENGE..CONTRACT IS RIGHT N ACCEPTABLE..PUT A FORFEIT AND LET'S WALK THE TALK."

dude in every walk of life, never be sensitive......by blood rushing up, today it is your fortune that i am not a bulldog owner nor someone's living bowl is the pit - frankly i never entered before and will never enter. i know you have been experiencing it but however your knowledge is limited to a very low extent....and you blend stories out of it for the local to hear - will not succeed in long run.

i may not be your great challenge in pit, but i am absolutely confident in the knowledge wise i am able to filter your junk, this is the gifted mastery from my family, cheers.


APPK
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Aug 22, 2005, 9:03 AM

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WOW,OF A SUDDEN..YOU ARE INTERESTED IN BREEDING PROGRAMMES?ESPECIALLY TRASH BREEDING PROGRAMMES?THESE ARE BREEDING PROGRAMMES WHICH WORKS FOR THE BLIND..AS YOU CLAIMED THAT I AM.WELL,IT WORKS FOR THE OTHER BLINDS THAT I LED AS WELL.MY BREEDING PROGRAMMES?THEY ARE CRAP AND I MIGHT HAVE FAKE THEM..THE BREEDING PROGRAMMES MAY NOT BE AUTHENTIC ,SO WHY BOTHER ASKING..OR EVEN BOTHER TO KNOW?

S.T.P- SOLO...TOM...POLLOCKS...?STANDS FOR THE 4 PARTNERS OF S.T.P KENNEL?SOLO PARTED WITH STP LONG TIME AGO..TOM PASS AWAY SOMETIME AGO..AND LEFT BOB AND JOHN WHO CALLED THEMSELVES THE POLLOCKS?MAY I ASK YOU WHATS THE BIG DEAL REGARDING A KENNEL NAME?DO YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE FROM MALAYSIA AND IF WE REALLY DO NOT KNOW,DO YOU THINK ITS A MERE SURPRISE?ACTUALLY,NOT MUCH PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THIS EITHER EVEN THOUGH THEY BOUGHT DOGS FROM STP..NOBODY BOTHERED TO ASK.I NEVER SAID I BOUGHT 'COCAIN'(1xw) FROM STP..I BRED HIM.I NEVER BOUGHT HAMMERHEAD'S GRANDSONS..I BRED THEM.THIS IS THE THIRD TIME WE ARE ASKING...HOW MUCH CONFIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT WE ARE CAPABLE TO OWN THESE BREEDINGS..?PLEASE PUT THE'SEND ME PICTURES AND SEND ME INFOS' THING ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT,I ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL DEFINITELY GIVE YOU AN ANSWER AFTER YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION ..OF THRICE.KEEP ON SCRATCHIN...


APPK
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Aug 22, 2005, 9:31 AM

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YOU SURF THE NET OFTEN HA..GOT YOUR INFOS THRU THE NET..?THAT'S A FAMILY MASTERY..NET SURFING?ONCE YOU GOT A QUESTION THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER,YOU GO THROUGH THE WEB,THROUGH THE BOOKS AND THEN AMSWER TO EARN ADMIRATION FROM...THE BLIND?YOU LOVE TO COMMENT THEN GIVE AN ANSWER WITH AN EXCUSE TO BACK UP WITH.I HAVEN'T GONE TO THAT LINK AND WON'T BOTHER TO...YOU COMMENT THAT I GOT IT WRONG STATING F.ROCCA'S STONEWALL...YOUR ANSWER IS GARNER & BECKER'S TRAVIS...THEN YOU GIVE AN EXCUSE SAYING THAT IT'S STATED F.ROCCA'S STONEWALL BECAUSE IT'S FOR COMMERCIAL USE.WHAT CRAP ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?YOU MEAN TM.GARNER DON'T MAKE A COMMERCIAL PACKAGE GOOD ENOUGH AS WHAT HE CAN DO FOR CH.CHINAMAN?PLEASE GIVE US AN ANSWER ON WHAT IS STATED ON STONEWALL'S PEDIGREE?NOBODY CARES ABOUT WHOSE BACKYARD IS STONEWALL IN AT THAT TIME..WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW..WHAT IS STATED ON STONEWALL'S PEDIGREE?IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE EASIER FOR YOU TO CHECK IT OUT THAN US HERE IN MALAYSIA.

I DON'T HAVE A LINK TO SHOW ABOUT SMOKIN JOE 43 lbs,THERE WILL BE A LINK IF THIS MATCH HAPPENED BETWEEN JEEP AND JOE BUT IT DIDN'T..IT'S NOT A 65 POUNDER MIGHTY JOE YOUNG OF YOURS.I EXPECT LAW DOCTORATES TO UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN ME AND GET IT FASTER..DON'T THEY?WELL,THERE IS ONE WAY..WOULD IT BE A PROBLEM FOR YOU TO CHECK IT OUT WITH ROCCA..?THEN SHARE IT WITH US HERE?THE FIRST USEFUL THING TO YOU COULD DO TO PROVE THAT YOU DON'T BOMBARD WITH EMPTY SHELLS..

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