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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jun 29, 2005, 7:41 PM

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Hi Peng Yu... Ng just called up... that crazy guy is asking for RM5000.00 for 2 male. Looks like I will go for plan D, just buying a male.

Got any good ideas to suggest or not????


ERN
K9 Maniac


Jun 29, 2005, 10:26 PM

Post #152 of 720 (3366 views)
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Peng Yu

wu kiu 1 breeder choi leow, tapi yee confuse Amstaff with staffie. Wa kak yee khong Amstaff, yee always say staffie MadFrownPirate

monday paper wu kong ko staffie for sell, not Amstaff.

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glng675
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Jun 30, 2005, 12:24 AM

Post #153 of 720 (3365 views)
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In Reply To
Hi Peng Yu

Ng kong shiki ei mother look weird? Mad

ei! mei hang wa leh?Tongue mei kak wa kong yee shi Pit bull lai hah! Crazy cham leow.UnsurePirate



Lucky Kevin confirmed is ASTAngelic...hehehhe

Wa khua liao kuai kuai (look weird), kak kin call Kevin to confirmCool



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glng675
Ultra ALPHA


Jun 30, 2005, 12:28 AM

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Peng Yu

Shiki has 2 frauds now, muzzle and tail too long .Frown

Hope what glng675 said will happen, so she will look nice.

Dun worry...all puppies muzzle is long wan at 4~7 months. After 9 months~3years the muzzle will become short & short. mai kia!!



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Jack_MBT
Enthusiast


Jun 30, 2005, 12:49 AM

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Peng Yu

Shiki has 2 frauds now, muzzle and tail too long .Frown

Hope what glng675 said will happen, so she will look nice.





ERN, I dont think Shiki Muzzle is long if you look from the top the muzzle to the stopping point is shorter then the stopping point tothe end of the head. Meaning 3/4 length of the head which is correct. If is shorter then that its going to look more like a APBT.

As for the tail as long as the length not longer then the back leg "hock" then is ideal. Which both the criteria are met by Shiki's

So dun worry .... Like I said you had the best female among the litters. Another important criteria Shiki has a very broad chest ...Sly
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ERN
K9 Maniac


Jun 30, 2005, 2:56 AM

Post #156 of 720 (3354 views)
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Hi Peng yu

lu shik chong so long hah?

fraud or not is not important lah. just compare only. Am happy with Shiki. No worry. shiki is happy also

where have you be all this while? chu kok ah?

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glng675
Ultra ALPHA


Jun 30, 2005, 6:29 PM

Post #157 of 720 (3352 views)
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Peng yu,

Share your Panda pics ler....dun so kiam siap...hahahha

cant wait to see Panda after dropped ears!!



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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 12:59 AM

Post #158 of 720 (3343 views)
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Hoey Peng Yu....

Have to wait until next week liao! Can't wait any longer to see those AST pups from Russia. Dunno how much they want to sell UnsureUnsureUnsure ???

Ng... I think we should prepare for Plan D just buy 1 from BM. If still can't managed... I will get AH GUAN to help.... this will be Plan E

Teoh... Don't worry lar... I just saw Jack_MBT's album I found that most of the pups are quite standard except the black & white female... well, I can't remmember photo number??? but this female pups looks like her mom. ( she has a long muzzle). Shiki is Sooi Cha Bor to my point of view.

Jack_MBT... See your friend don't want to sell the pup, yet he can't taking care of him well... now got stolen already Unsure , feel sorry to him lar... Don't know that Dognapper knows it is AST or not... but I think is ez to find... cause AST is rare in M'sia.



I have sent few emails to Australia, Russia, Phillipine and Thailand to enquire about AST. Still waiting for the reply though... will keep you guys up date!


ERN
K9 Maniac


Jul 1, 2005, 1:36 AM

Post #159 of 720 (3342 views)
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peng yu

do you mena that one that you once considered teow kidnap leow ah?

Aiyah, cha zhai the owner sell it loh.Pirate

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last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

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Jack_MBT
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Jul 1, 2005, 3:47 AM

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According to my fren got stolen by "o puey". SO might be in "kau kut teh" pot. By the way do you want me to call the BM guy to test water ...???
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glng675
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Jul 1, 2005, 5:38 PM

Post #161 of 720 (3336 views)
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Wor??!!! That pup hilang!!!!UnsurePirate

Dun know the onwer will suspect us curi or not??

The BM guy really like chew (mean banana in contonese)Cool, I think Shifu Guan have to chut schew liaoLaugh



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ERN
K9 Maniac


Jul 1, 2005, 6:29 PM

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In Reply To
According to my fren got stolen by "o puey". SO might be in "kau kut teh" pot. By the way do you want me to call the BM guy to test water ...???



Peng yu

Call BM guy to test water? dont understand.

but for the pup that kena kidnap, sayang lah.Frown if he is going to a good home, then still not that bad lor for the pup, but if ......aiyah, very likely loh....go to "O puey"'s hand, or vietnamise hand......aiya ya......PirateCrazy, by now chun kut leow .

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last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

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ERN
K9 Maniac


Jul 1, 2005, 6:39 PM

Post #163 of 720 (3330 views)
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Hey peng yu

yalah. you are the prime suspect.WinkTongueSmile because you are the one very interested on him. quickly find the "O puey" or the kao kut to prove your innocence.

Frown

View my photo album

last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

http://s56.photobucket.com/...%20Zeus%20N%20Shiki/

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Jack_MBT
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Jul 1, 2005, 7:27 PM

Post #164 of 720 (3328 views)
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test water meaning ask him for the price lor .... the last time he offered me for all 4 rm 4500 mah
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ERN
K9 Maniac


Jul 1, 2005, 7:38 PM

Post #165 of 720 (3326 views)
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peng yu

heheh e....paiseh paisehBlushBlush liat boh keow, xi leh xi leh.

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View my photo album

last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

http://s56.photobucket.com/...%20Zeus%20N%20Shiki/

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RealityDreamer
Doggyman


Jul 1, 2005, 7:40 PM

Post #166 of 720 (3326 views)
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Hey guys,

wht's the market price for a nice show line apbt frm ch lineage? or frm good conformation lines.. is colour a factor?

ast's...frm a previos post is RM 1.2-1.5k for not so nice marking & 1.5-2k for a nice marking 1....true?

btw,is a white head considered nice? I personally do not like white heads & jackets..but a breeder charged more for pups with tht marking.
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(This post was edited by RealityDreamer on Jul 1, 2005, 7:42 PM)


glng675
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Jul 1, 2005, 7:46 PM

Post #167 of 720 (3324 views)
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Hey peng yu

yalah. you are the prime suspect.WinkTongueSmile because you are the one very interested on him. quickly find the "O puey" or the kao kut to prove your innocence.

I think kut pun bo chun..hehhe...coz pat jiak kao ciak kee liaoSly



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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 8:18 PM

Post #168 of 720 (3319 views)
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Hey Chloe...

Don't tell me that someone is trying to sell a "White Head AST" in the market?? My friend's AST just got stolen few days ago... and it is White Head with black jacket marking!!! If you find this dog, help me to buy it.

How to value a AST... well it is mostly same like other breeds, things should look into are like weight, hight, muzzle, tail, legs and etc... And off couse marking is the main attraction on this breed, and the rarest colour in the market (almost can't find in Malaysia) is blue. I have just told by one of our member that AST is under List 3 of MKA. However, it is banned in Malaysia. BTW... I'm still looking for a male AST (pups or adult) can you help me to look for breeders may want to sell?

A white head AST or APBT is considered nice, but a white head should match with jacket marking otherwise it is still under the catagory of average.


ERN
K9 Maniac


Jul 1, 2005, 8:28 PM

Post #169 of 720 (3315 views)
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Hi peng yu

Welcome to this thread.

You saw a white head AST for sales ah? haha.... our peng yu, Kevin got hope leow. My AST is also white head. As kevin said, we are talking about another white head sibling who was stolen. SlyLaughCool

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last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!

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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 8:31 PM

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Continues...

Chinaman, Old American Red, Jeep, Hammerhead, Midnight, Taccus and etc... are very good lineage in Pit Performance, their famous with their winning drives and their Heart and Spirit in the Pit.

Normally, it will cost from RM1800.00 to RM6000.00 depends on the lineage, as APBT has been banned for decades in Malaysia, I'm affraid there are no more show quality APBT in Malaysia, if we do we can't even certified them. There are APBT and AST lovers in Penang who is planning to start and promote weight pulling contest... no money and betting involve! just a sports for them.


Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 8:38 PM

Post #171 of 720 (3311 views)
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Hey Jack_MBT...

Don't "Test Water" yet as we are still observing the situation... Wink Wink

The plan is still on... Ng and myself is working on it.


glng675
Ultra ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 10:40 PM

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Continues...

Chinaman, Old American Red, Jeep, Hammerhead, Midnight, Taccus and etc... are very good lineage in Pit Performance, their famous with their winning drives and their Heart and Spirit in the Pit.

Jeep??!!! I have a Jeep...hehehe but not canine JeepCool My pitbull under what category?? "local" hammerhead??!! hahaha...coz the head like hammer too... weight pulling contest arr!! When hah? please dun forget to inform me ler.



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Kevin Chuan
ALPHA


Jul 1, 2005, 11:24 PM

Post #173 of 720 (3301 views)
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hahahaha.... Well APBT comes in thousands of lineage... There are Show quality (none in US), working line, and performance line.

Show line I'm not too sure but these are some of the lineage that I've heard before; Chacoal, Hurricane Crazy oh I knows only 2 .....

Working line are mostly from USA... there's one retaired dog called Rex very famous in Drug tracking

The lineage that I mentioned this morning are mainly for Pit Performance.

Jeep se Ang Mor Kaow che eh... Ng's Pitbull I guess is from Durian lineage...Wink She has retaired liao... now become Durian Guard liao ( Kor Liew Lian Hooi liao)


RealityDreamer
Doggyman


Jul 2, 2005, 12:05 AM

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hmm...have only seen a blue apbt here..not ast. Wht do u mean by white head matching the jacket...? i thought white is like clothes...can match ne colour? Tongue

List 3....meaning....? I am not too familiar with MKA.

no no...the ast is frm over seas. Not local. Quite a consistent breeding. Whole litter..8 if im not mistaken. 6 white head with either black jacket or brown. 2 with a little marking on 1 of the ears
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RealityDreamer
Doggyman


Jul 2, 2005, 12:17 AM

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"I'm affraid there are no more show quality APBT in Malaysia..."

hmmm....but in general..wht do u think of the market?

i'm interested in getting a good looking 1...long time frm now la...but still...doing abit of research first.

1.8k - 6 k r for perf. pits? or the show lineage ones? I admire the perf. line for their strength,agility an pain threshold..but i dont think i can go through having 1 killing all my other dogs.

ps...ne1 interested in a show mix working line red apbt? He is also trained for protection. Very strong & has a hard bite!
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(This post was edited by RealityDreamer on Jul 2, 2005, 12:30 AM)

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