Re: [ERN] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Peng Yu
Shiki has 2 frauds now, muzzle and tail too long .
Hope what glng675 said will happen, so she will look nice.
ERN, I dont think Shiki Muzzle is long if you look from the top the muzzle to the stopping point is shorter then the stopping point tothe end of the head. Meaning 3/4 length of the head which is correct. If is shorter then that its going to look more like a APBT.
As for the tail as long as the length not longer then the back leg "hock" then is ideal. Which both the criteria are met by Shiki's
So dun worry .... Like I said you had the best female among the litters. Another important criteria Shiki has a very broad chest ... Panda is COOl.......Jack the GREAT !!! :)
Re: [ERN] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Hoey Peng Yu....
Have to wait until next week liao! Can't wait any longer to see those AST pups from Russia. Dunno how much they want to sell ???
Ng... I think we should prepare for Plan D just buy 1 from BM. If still can't managed... I will get AH GUAN to help.... this will be Plan E
Teoh... Don't worry lar... I just saw Jack_MBT's album I found that most of the pups are quite standard except the black & white female... well, I can't remmember photo number??? but this female pups looks like her mom. ( she has a long muzzle). Shiki is Sooi Cha Bor to my point of view.
Jack_MBT... See your friend don't want to sell the pup, yet he can't taking care of him well... now got stolen already , feel sorry to him lar... Don't know that Dognapper knows it is AST or not... but I think is ez to find... cause AST is rare in M'sia.
I have sent few emails to Australia, Russia, Phillipine and Thailand to enquire about AST. Still waiting for the reply though... will keep you guys up date!
Re: [ERN] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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According to my fren got stolen by "o puey". SO might be in "kau kut teh" pot. By the way do you want me to call the BM guy to test water ...??? Panda is COOl.......Jack the GREAT !!! :)
Re: [Jack_MBT] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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According to my fren got stolen by "o puey". SO might be in "kau kut teh" pot. By the way do you want me to call the BM guy to test water ...???
Peng yu
Call BM guy to test water? dont understand.
but for the pup that kena kidnap, sayang lah. if he is going to a good home, then still not that bad lor for the pup, but if ......aiyah, very likely loh....go to "O puey"'s hand, or vietnamise hand......aiya ya......, by now chun kut leow .
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last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!
Re: [ALL] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Hey guys,
wht's the market price for a nice show line apbt frm ch lineage? or frm good conformation lines.. is colour a factor?
ast's...frm a previos post is RM 1.2-1.5k for not so nice marking & 1.5-2k for a nice marking 1....true?
btw,is a white head considered nice? I personally do not like white heads & jackets..but a breeder charged more for pups with tht marking. ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
(This post was edited by RealityDreamer on Jul 1, 2005, 7:42 PM)
Re: [RealityDreamer] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Hey Chloe...
Don't tell me that someone is trying to sell a "White Head AST" in the market?? My friend's AST just got stolen few days ago... and it is White Head with black jacket marking!!! If you find this dog, help me to buy it.
How to value a AST... well it is mostly same like other breeds, things should look into are like weight, hight, muzzle, tail, legs and etc... And off couse marking is the main attraction on this breed, and the rarest colour in the market (almost can't find in Malaysia) is blue. I have just told by one of our member that AST is under List 3 of MKA. However, it is banned in Malaysia. BTW... I'm still looking for a male AST (pups or adult) can you help me to look for breeders may want to sell?
A white head AST or APBT is considered nice, but a white head should match with jacket marking otherwise it is still under the catagory of average.
Re: [RealityDreamer] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Hi peng yu
Welcome to this thread.
You saw a white head AST for sales ah? haha.... our peng yu, Kevin got hope leow. My AST is also white head. As kevin said, we are talking about another white head sibling who was stolen.
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last update, ZEUS & Shiki's 2nd off springs, 16/09/2008. Yes 9.16!
Re: [RealityDreamer] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Chinaman, Old American Red, Jeep, Hammerhead, Midnight, Taccus and etc... are very good lineage in Pit Performance, their famous with their winning drives and their Heart and Spirit in the Pit.
Normally, it will cost from RM1800.00 to RM6000.00 depends on the lineage, as APBT has been banned for decades in Malaysia, I'm affraid there are no more show quality APBT in Malaysia, if we do we can't even certified them. There are APBT and AST lovers in Penang who is planning to start and promote weight pulling contest... no money and betting involve! just a sports for them.
Re: [Kevin Chuan] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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Chinaman, Old American Red, Jeep, Hammerhead, Midnight, Taccus and etc... are very good lineage in Pit Performance, their famous with their winning drives and their Heart and Spirit in the Pit.
Jeep??!!! I have a Jeep...hehehe but not canine Jeep My pitbull under what category?? "local" hammerhead??!! hahaha...coz the head like hammer too... weight pulling contest arr!! When hah? please dun forget to inform me ler.
Re: [glng675] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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hahahaha.... Well APBT comes in thousands of lineage... There are Show quality (none in US), working line, and performance line.
Show line I'm not too sure but these are some of the lineage that I've heard before; Chacoal, Hurricane oh I knows only 2 .....
Working line are mostly from USA... there's one retaired dog called Rex very famous in Drug tracking
The lineage that I mentioned this morning are mainly for Pit Performance.
Jeep se Ang Mor Kaow che eh... Ng's Pitbull I guess is from Durian lineage... She has retaired liao... now become Durian Guard liao ( Kor Liew Lian Hooi liao)
Re: [Kevin Chuan] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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hmm...have only seen a blue apbt here..not ast. Wht do u mean by white head matching the jacket...? i thought white is like clothes...can match ne colour?
List 3....meaning....? I am not too familiar with MKA.
no no...the ast is frm over seas. Not local. Quite a consistent breeding. Whole litter..8 if im not mistaken. 6 white head with either black jacket or brown. 2 with a little marking on 1 of the ears ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
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Re: [Kevin Chuan] American Staffordshire Terrier or APBT Lover
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"I'm affraid there are no more show quality APBT in Malaysia..."
hmmm....but in general..wht do u think of the market?
i'm interested in getting a good looking 1...long time frm now la...but still...doing abit of research first.
1.8k - 6 k r for perf. pits? or the show lineage ones? I admire the perf. line for their strength,agility an pain threshold..but i dont think i can go through having 1 killing all my other dogs.
ps...ne1 interested in a show mix working line red apbt? He is also trained for protection. Very strong & has a hard bite! ,-._,-. \/)"(\/ (_o_)
(This post was edited by RealityDreamer on Jul 2, 2005, 12:30 AM)