actually... they're considered cheap ? in most countries... dogs there are much cheaper... same goes to car... kinda big difference no ?
like in australia... you can get a pure breed for rm 300 plus... i've seen champion breed selling for rm 500 too ... but over here ussually its rm 1000 over...
seen some good blood line selling for rm 8000 too i think thats too much ?
actually... they're considered cheap ? in most countries... dogs there are much cheaper... same goes to car... kinda big difference no ?
like in australia... you can get a pure breed for rm 300 plus... i've seen champion breed selling for rm 500 too ... but over here ussually its rm 1000 over...
seen some good blood line selling for rm 8000 too i think thats too much ?
I cant really say that is existing in Australia. Also the definition of champion is very misleading sometimes....champion in what? and what show? local, regional....etc. While shows are not really my forte I will rather leave that on itself. Nevertheless I think humans subscribe by the words "beauty in the eye of the beholder" and "transaction is made of willing buyer n willing seller" and "cheap but still super dog is an illusion"
It takes long time n dedication to breed a good dog. In working dogs it must has the nerve, courage, temprements and drives to work endlessly with the handler. If these dogs can be produced like a factory mould then there is no need for tests like SchH and our Police force dont have to search for them all over the world like they do now. All is a matter of u pay for what u get.
Also champion lines not necessary produce champion dogs as well. So cheap ones are possibilities of champ sire but poor puppies which a breeder is trying to get rid of fast. Fruit for thought.
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(This post was edited by PSD on Oct 6, 2004, 6:36 PM)
but sadly that is how many people price a pup they want to sell they give reasons of its parents being champion in shows and all..
True....very true....even petshop uses these terms rather losely. One thing you can do to check out how true the breeder is is to ask him to tell u the history of the last 5 generation dogs behind the puppy one by one. Then u will know how dedicated he is in his breeding. This is fool proof test.
Sadly, many people still got fooled easily with a single term "champion line"
PSD
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hehe... ask them to show all the certs huh my parents bought my poodle 11 years ago.. and thats what the person told them.. hehe i was only a kid then but ahh... i bought him coz he was a darling but still funtrated to know the things people do to sell their dogs... it wasnt from the petshop though so at least... guess its easy to fool people who knows nothing about dogs
ermmmm, Not just show certs lah What I mean is that the breeder is able to tell you each and every ancestor of the puppy what they have gone through and what are their positive points and achievements. Then they can also tell you why they made this specific breeding guiding by their structure, temprements which they can easily show u with the parents. By 5 generations pedigree it means the parents (2) the G'parents(4) the GG'parents(8) then GGG'parents(16) the GGGG'parents(32) so in total its 62 individual dogs
The point is, these people has to understand what they are doing in the first place and not just put 2 dogs together and say their prayers.
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Quote "Take this trouble for me: Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."
Glad to know that yr dad is a gsd fan. So am I ! If you dont mind the little travel there is a reputable breeder from Klang. Just went to his place this afternoon to collect the papers for my Rottweiler(we got the Rottie to accompany our gsd pup of the same age) and noticed that he has just got a 15 month old gsd from Germany and boy was he majestic looking! Anyway, didnt see any pups around. Perhaps you can contact the breeder at 012-2380059 (Mr Lim) to enquire if there are available gsd pups for sale. Mr Lim is more conversant in Mandarin/Hokkien than English.
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This is fool proof test. 
