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Polluxx
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Jul 16, 2004, 4:23 AM

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PSD,

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Then my vote goes to Karlo Peko Haus hands down. Hahahahaha I'm Tai Chi-ing your Q there....lol.

Karlo again . . .!! Crazy

...., looks like I need to learn a few Tai-Chi stroke mi-self ...... Wink

Hi RealityDreamer,

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Just waiting for the pup to be born

Hope U dun mind being kay-poh, but am really curious to know ur pup will be out of which sire/dam, grandsire/dam...etc...? ? Blush

I'm gathering he is out of workingline, rite ??
I hope U dun mind sharing wt us in the forum, thks ! Wink

Cheers !

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

(This post was edited by Polluxx on Jul 16, 2004, 4:25 AM)

RealityDreamer
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Jul 16, 2004, 7:44 AM

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Hi,

Yeaps.

I'm not sure if it's convenient to post it here as I think the "breeder" does not want that many ppl to know. And the owner of stud doesn't really want to expose the fact he is breeding his dog because he only did it out of favour. Pirate

Sorry ya...

When the pup is born,I'll let you know. Or I'll go check with the owners first. Just a precaution.

Hope you understand..
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boon
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Jul 16, 2004, 6:00 PM

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Hi Chloe,

r u referring the bi-color male gsd in PJ ?

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

Polluxx
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Jul 16, 2004, 9:18 PM

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Hi RD,

No problem, I understand some breeders would like some privacy...!! Wink

But if it is convenient to disclose, U may e-mail me at

I'm just very interested in trying to find out the various line available locally...!!

BTW .....do keep us update your new pup progress once U got it, will ya..?? Blush

I m sure a lot of us will be interested....!! Sly

Hi Boon & RD,

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......the owner of stud doesn't really want......breeding his dog because he only did it out of favour......

...... u referring the bi-color male gsd ........

is the owner of stud = breeder , same person......? ? I m getting a bit confused already........??

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

RealityDreamer
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Jul 16, 2004, 9:35 PM

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nope

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RealityDreamer
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Jul 16, 2004, 9:38 PM

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I will ask the breeder and let u know Smile

Definitely will do that. Need all the help,opinions and critique I can get to raise my pup properly.

no no...the breeder is another person. Owner of the stud/sire another person. Sorry...sorry my bad.
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boon
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Jul 16, 2004, 10:09 PM

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ok if the breeder permit, write me too for the lineage info.

Boon - I Love Fast Dogs That Hit Hard
You Ask Me To Fight For You, I Give You Freedom & Protection And Then You Question The Manner In Which I Provide It, I'd Rather You Just Said -- "Thank You" --

KENDZ
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Jul 17, 2004, 2:00 AM

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Hi Polluxx,

Did some research on Zanto's(Lenon Du Val D'Anzin EX Eika vom Klostermoor) linage. He is carrying Cello on his sire's side(Cello's his great grand sire). Anyone care to share Olli's pedigree here? Looking forward to see the dog in the flesh in the next show.

By the way, is there any side that you would recommend so that I can learn more on line breeding? Can't seem to make sense of stuff like, "line breeding 5 - 5, 5 - 4". Stil very fresh on this.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Kendz
GSDs Rule!

RealityDreamer
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Jul 17, 2004, 3:51 AM

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Polluxx
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Jul 17, 2004, 8:32 PM

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Hi RD,

Thanks, really appreciate ur gesture... ! ! I'm just interested with the diff combination of bloodline will produce...stuff likes drive, traits, size, nerve's issue etc...that might turn out !! Tongue

.....hope U dun mind...!!

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no no...the breeder is another person. Owner of the stud/sire another person.

that is interesting !! , looks like there is more new bloodline emerging locally, tis a good news to us all......!! Cool

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

Polluxx
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Jul 17, 2004, 8:50 PM

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Hi Kendz,

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He is carrying Cello on his sire's side(Cello's his great grand sire).

That is interesting !! does anybody here know tis dog (Zanto) well ? ?... still it is quite some generations away for a single dog to influence its progeny....if only there some line-breeding on Cello tht far-away....!! maybe others who may have seen him care to comment ... Blush

??

Errr... abt ur line-breeding query ....well basically it is a form of in-breeding , maybe others here will be able to offe a cleare picture....?? Blush

Boon, RD, PSD.......guys,...maybe U all can help to throw some light here..!! Wink

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

RealityDreamer
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Jul 18, 2004, 11:28 PM

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Hi Polluxx,

Very sorry to inform u that the breeder and owner of the stud do not want their names to be known... Pirate

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Polluxx
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Jul 19, 2004, 6:43 PM

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Hi RD,

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.....breeder and owner of the stud do not want their names to be known...

actually, I just want to know ur future pup l"lineage" info (pedigree) only.... Blush

but not the stud owner's / breeder's name......I understand their need for privacy....!! Cool

anyway thank you for trying..!!

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

RealityDreamer
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Jul 19, 2004, 11:02 PM

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Thanks for understanding. Really appreciate that u were not offended.

Smile

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ALPHA

Jul 27, 2004, 6:37 PM

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Can't seem to make sense of stuff like, "line breeding 5 - 5, 5 - 4". Stil very fresh on this.

Kendz,

Line breeding and inbreeding is the same thing. The joke that we use to say is that if the dog pruduced become a good dog then we call that line breeding but if the dog produced shows problems then we call that inbreeding. To me its the same thing.

4-5, 4-4, 5-4 all refers to the the position the same dog appears in the ancestry. In the case of 4-5 it refers to the same dog appear on the sire side in the 4th generation and it also appears on the dam side in the 5th generation. same with 4-4, 5-4 and so on.

sometimes u will also see 4-5,4 which means the same dog appears on the 4th generation in the sire, 5th generation in dam sire side and 4th generation in dam's dam side and so forth.

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

KENDZ
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Sep 28, 2004, 2:07 AM

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Hi Guys,

Its been awhile. I finally got my GSD! Its showline. I took the advise you guys posted and got it from Datuk F. She is now 10 weeks old and extremely active. Its been awhile since I have owned a GSD. Boy, are they smart. I guess Czech ones are even more alert! One thing though, she is extremely mouthy.....the scratches on my hands will tell you that! Any advise how to curb this habit? I don't want to smack her.

So far it 2 weeks that she is home, she has learnt the 'sit' command, 'come' as well as 50% toilet trained. She still 'goes' anywhere when she is excited.

In terms of training, can anyone recommend a resource/books?

Thanks in advance.
Kendz
GSDs Rule!

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ALPHA

Sep 28, 2004, 6:31 PM

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Kendz,

Altho show dogs isnt exactly my cuppa, I would like to congrats u for the dream come true. Smile

BTW how much is the pup for? Any pics?

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

PSD
ALPHA

Sep 28, 2004, 6:35 PM

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Kendz,

Altho show dogs isnt exactly my cuppa, I would like to congrats you on your dream come true. Cool

BTW, how much you paid for her and any pics?

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

PSD
ALPHA

Sep 28, 2004, 6:38 PM

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Kendz,

Altho show dogs isnt exactly my cuppa, I would like to congrats you on your dream come true. Cool

RealityDreamer
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Sep 29, 2004, 7:07 AM

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wah...psd...sai em sai post 3 times kah..? Tongue

think once is enuf.. Cool

kendz,

CONGRATS on the new pup. Wink

It's always a joy to bring home a new family member. Laugh

So do u hv ne pics? Would love to see the beauty..n out of curiousity,who are her sire and dam?
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ALPHA

Sep 29, 2004, 7:16 PM

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Hahahah.....em chi toh tim kai? maybe excited kua.....heheheheh. Long time never logged on already maybe the site welcoming me back kot! Blush

PSD

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"Take this trouble for me:
Make sure my shepherd dog remains a working dog, for I have struggled all my life long for that aim ."

Rittmeister Capt. Max von Stephanitz (1864-1936)

KENDZ
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Oct 18, 2004, 10:40 PM

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Hi Guys,

Sorry for the extremely late reply. Been pretty bz with work. Her sire is 'Franco' and the dam is a daughter of Gauner Konigsgarde. I am extremely proud of her. She is really smart, compared to the last GSD I owned, which was more of the 'English type'. I'd rather not mention her price here. I will post her pictures soon.

Looking to train her in OB and such. She already understands 'sit', 'come' and 'stay' indoors. And only 12 weeks old. Currently I am working on repeating the above outdoors, with distractions. What I would really like is to try and train her in tracking. But there really is a lack of training materials out there. Does the local GSD chapter teach this?
Kendz
GSDs Rule!

Sydney
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Oct 22, 2004, 11:24 PM

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the u can buy from breeders in the newspaper.

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Your's truly,
Sydn3y

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KENDZ
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Jun 14, 2005, 12:03 AM

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Hi Guys,

Been awhile since I last wrote in thread. I finally took a picture of my dog. Remember, some of you guys pointed me in the right direction? Well, thanks to all. The picture shows her at 10 months, and in the midst of changing her coat. The stacking could have been better, will try for a better picture next time.

I entered her in the last two shows and she won best puppy in group for pastoral! Granted, she could have been better socialised then, as she created quite a ruckus at the show! Sorry to anyone if we offended them. Luckily the judge did not disqualify her. Still, our objective was for her to get use to such a surrounding. Didn't expect her to win. She is now enrolled for obedience training, which she is attending very diligently. After 3 classes, there is much improvement, she is no longer ticked off with other dog's presence. Wink

I have learnt quite a lot since I got her. Now looking to see if she can be taught more.

Despite liking show dogs (ahem), I am also interested in preserving their workability. I have come to see there is a difference even in show dogs, depending on the bloodline. My dog is 5,5-4 Cello von der Romerau. In my observations of her, she has never backed down from a confrontation, and CNY fireworks right in front of her (nasty neighbourhood kids) did not faze her at all. She even went to investigate it! The true test is now for me to ascertain whether she can be schutzhund trained.

Some questions:

1) Is 11 months too old to begin training?

2) Is there any formalized classes?

3) Will training alter her behaviour in the conformation ring?

4) I live in Puchong. Where can I attend such training?

5) Can she be titled (if she is good enough)?

Hope that some one can advise. Thanks!
Kendz
GSDs Rule!

(This post was edited by KENDZ on Jun 14, 2005, 12:05 AM)

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Polluxx
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Jun 14, 2005, 6:20 AM

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Hi Kendz,

Nice to see U back on-board.

Based on your observation, looks like U got urself a very good dog . . .

if U r interested in testing out girl for ScH training, I believe U can try going to Padang Merbok on Sunday morning (early) .. . I thk there's a group of ppl doing regular ScH training there every weekend. I am sure they will help U to test & evaluate your dog and answer your queries, ..... U can try contacting Azman or Reality Dreamer.

Best of luck.

"Show me your dog and I'll tell you what manner of man you are."
(GSD Founder - Capt Max V Stephanitz)

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